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IDPiper 02-16-2014 07:22 AM
Heartworm Preventative
 
I have been reading all of this stuff about heartworm preventatives and wondered why my vet has never said anything about it so, I did some research and found that heartworm is basically non-existent in Idaho.

Would you still buy preventative?

107barney 02-16-2014 07:32 AM
Yes it's recommended to use it year round in all 50 states by the American heartworm society.

ladyjane 02-16-2014 07:33 AM
Not reported is not the same thing as non existent. I believe there is a possibility of heartworms in just about every state.

We have had this come up when checking people out for adoptions. Personally, from what I have read, I would use a preventative. Heartworms can wreak havoc on a pup...I have seen that first hand and would never take that chance.

kjc 02-16-2014 08:10 AM
There may be infected dogs/wildlife traveling into the state, that leave and may get treated or die and get reported in another state.

Lovetodream88 02-16-2014 09:52 AM
I would still use it, it's just not worth the risk to me. If a small dog gets heart worms the treatment can kill them and if it doesn't it can leave them with issues like heart problems.

IDPiper 02-16-2014 03:04 PM
Thank you for all the info. I guess I'll ask my vet about it the next time we go in. Which one is the best?

107barney 02-16-2014 03:58 PM
We use heartgard.

Lovetodream88 02-16-2014 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IDPiper (Post 4392674)
Thank you for all the info. I guess I'll ask my vet about it the next time we go in. Which one is the best?
Sense interceptor is gone I feel most comfortable with heartguard.

Maximo 02-16-2014 06:31 PM
A member here lives in an area where heartworm is not considered a big threat, and her dog ended up with heartworm.

Heartworm and the treatments are so horrible that I personally would not let my dogs go without the preventatives.

We use Heartgard year round here.

tokipoki 02-16-2014 08:21 PM
We use Sentinel which also offers protection from other types of worms and some flea protection.

ladyjane 02-17-2014 07:05 AM
I use Heartgard. I also use Sentinel for two of my pups who won't eat the Heartgard.

tjdmom 02-17-2014 11:25 AM
Personally, if your risk is low, I wouldn't. But I would definitely get your vets input.

Deb1 02-17-2014 01:23 PM
We use Heartgard Plus year round! I would rather have mine protected if in doubt.

R-Teddy 02-17-2014 01:42 PM
Do your research on what kind. Trifexis has been said to cause many dogs deaths. I have used it for over a year with no side effects, but have decided to take my dog off it. I figure why chance it if there are other alternatives. but yet, my vet is the one that prescribed trifexis. But I dont consider my vet a BAD vet or I wouldnt take my fur butts to him. So you really should do your own research.

yorkiemini 02-17-2014 02:04 PM
We use Revolution.

ladyjane 02-18-2014 07:56 AM
For anyone who suggests not using a Heartworm preventative I can only say that until you have cared for a pup who is suffering from pulmonary hypertension or some other deadly condition due to heartworms OR until you have seen one suffer or die from the treatment for heartworms, please don't advise people not to protect their dogs.

R-Teddy 02-18-2014 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4393646)
For anyone who suggests not using a Heartworm preventative I can only say that until you have cared for a pup who is suffering from pulmonary hypertension or some other deadly condition due to heartworms OR until you have seen one suffer or die from the treatment for heartworms, please don't advise people not to protect their dogs.


AMEN

I have seen big dogs not survive the treatment. The treatment is very harsh. I cant imagine a little yorkie going through it.

Teegy 02-18-2014 11:54 AM
No I wouldn't recommend it.
I talked to my vet about it here in Toronto and the risks are teeny weeny eeny beeny.
You can supplement the diet with some apple cider vinegar or a tiny bit of garlic to scare off bugs or you can also buy neem oil based products or natural oils and make repellent.

IDPiper 02-18-2014 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by R-Teddy (Post 4393314)
Do your research on what kind. Trifexis has been said to cause many dogs deaths. I have used it for over a year with no side effects, but have decided to take my dog off it. I figure why chance it if there are other alternatives. but yet, my vet is the one that prescribed trifexis. But I dont consider my vet a BAD vet or I wouldnt take my fur butts to him. So you really should do your own research.
Definitely doing my research but it's always nice to have different points of view!

ladyjane 02-18-2014 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Teegy (Post 4393782)
No I wouldn't recommend it.
I talked to my vet about it here in Toronto and the risks are teeny weeny eeny beeny.
You can supplement the diet with some apple cider vinegar or a tiny bit of garlic to scare off bugs or you can also buy neem oil based products or natural oils and make repellent.
How often and when does your vet suggest that you test for heartworms? As I stated above, once the pup has heartworms the damage begins. I would not take ANY risk having seen what I have seen happen to dogs with heartworms.

I hope you and your pups never have to deal with it.

Lovetodream88 02-18-2014 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4393798)
How often and when does your vet suggest that you test for heartworms? As I stated above, once the pup has heartworms the damage begins. I would not take ANY risk having seen what I have seen happen to dogs with heartworms.

I hope you and your pups never have to deal with it.
Maybe you should post the link to the story about the foster you had that had heart worms if you can find it.

ladyjane 02-18-2014 03:21 PM
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Maybe you should post the link to the story about the foster you had that had heart worms if you can find it.
I was actually going to post her picture. The one I am thinking of was not my foster, but I often took care of her when her foster parents went away. Her name was Callie and she was a precious thing.....died too soon because someone did not spend $4 per month to prevent heartworms. Horrible.

Going to look to see if I had a thread about her...not sure I did.

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ladyjane 02-18-2014 03:23 PM
Here it is....for anyone who is thinking about not protecting your pups.....please, please rethink that decision. This darling girl suffered needlessly and in the end we had to let her go to the Bridge much too soon.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...kill-dogs.html

107barney 02-18-2014 03:29 PM
Doesn't Gemy live in that area? Perhaps she can come on and talk about the risks in Canada since her dog had heartworms.

ladyjane 02-18-2014 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4393904)
Doesn't Gemy live in that area? Perhaps she can come on and talk about the risks in Canada since her dog had heartworms.
No, she lives in Ontario I believe. But, it would be good for her to post.

Teegy 02-18-2014 08:29 PM
Yes Gemy lives near me. There have been very few cases of heartworm here and like I said I discussed it with my vet. It's not $4 a month here I'm sure many wish it was. I know plenty of people who do not and have never used heartworm prevention on their pets here and they loved long and happy lives. It's like Russian roulette. But I don't want to put insecticides in my dogs. I understand there are a lot of places in the US where it is predominant and there is a great need for it, but it's not here.

ladyjane 02-18-2014 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Teegy (Post 4394093)
Yes Gemy lives near me. There have been very few cases of heartworm here and like I said I discussed it with my vet. It's not $4 a month here I'm sure many wish it was. I know plenty of people who do not and have never used heartworm prevention on their pets here and they loved long and happy lives. It's like Russian roulette. But I don't want to put insecticides in my dogs. I understand there are a lot of places in the US where it is predominant and there is a great need for it, but it's not here.
Great. No disrespect but would you put a gun to your head to play that game? I have to ask why you would do it to your pup. Poor babies don't have a choice in your little game as you refer to it.

Again I ask....do you test them for heartworms and how often? What will you do if one does get heartworms?....that is IF you test and IF you know before the poor thing is choking to death from the worms.

I really don't comprehend people saying they won't protect their pups due to "insecticides"....what do you think will happen if they get heartworms? Have you thought that out? The treatment would be against your beliefs...so your pup, if it had them, would simply suffer and die?

SMH

tjdmom 02-19-2014 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4394132)
Great. No disrespect but would you put a gun to your head to play that game? I have to ask why you would do it to your pup. Poor babies don't have a choice in your little game as you refer to it.

Again I ask....do you test them for heartworms and how often? What will you do if one does get heartworms?....that is IF you test and IF you know before the poor thing is choking to death from the worms.

I really don't comprehend people saying they won't protect their pups due to "insecticides"....what do you think will happen if they get heartworms? Have you thought that out? The treatment would be against your beliefs...so your pup, if it had them, would simply suffer and die?

SMH
Personally, I know you are passionate about your beliefs but there are many who have lost dogs to cancer which is not a great way to die either. Many of us belief that the use of these pesticides may be contributing to this and feel just as passionately. If I lived where you lived, I might feel differently but where I live, I choose not to treat year round because the chances of my dogs getting heart worm in the winter here is nil. I don't believe the heart worm meds come with no cost to the dogs immune system. It is a pesticide after all. I understand that you are passionate and that passion comes from your love but please also understand that those that disagree also are passionate and our passion comes from love as well. It's not about the cost of the meds and it doesn't mean we don't care if our pets die. I guess we just have different opinions and ultimately, I think it's a good thing to research, discuss and come to our own decisions.

ladyjane 02-19-2014 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 4394226)
Personally, I know you are passionate about your beliefs but there are many who have lost dogs to cancer which is not a great way to die either. Many of us belief that the use of these pesticides may be contributing to this and feel just as passionately. If I lived where you lived, I might feel differently but where I live, I choose not to treat year round because the chances of my dogs getting heart worm in the winter here is nil. I don't believe the heart worm meds come with no cost to the dogs immune system. It is a pesticide after all. I understand that you are passionate and that passion comes from your love but please also understand that those that disagree also are passionate and our passion comes from love as well. It's not about the cost of the meds and it doesn't mean we don't care if our pets die. I guess we just have different opinions and ultimately, I think it's a good thing to research, discuss and come to our own decisions.
You are saying that you don't treat year round...there is a HUGE difference in that and a blanket statement against heartworm preventatives at all!!

It is not just my passion: It is a FACT that heartworms exist and kiill dogs. Do you have any scientific evidence of the numbers of dogs who died of cancer from heartworm preventatives? Real research...not anecdotal claims.

ladyjane 02-19-2014 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 4394226)
Personally, I know you are passionate about your beliefs but there are many who have lost dogs to cancer which is not a great way to die either. Many of us belief that the use of these pesticides may be contributing to this and feel just as passionately. If I lived where you lived, I might feel differently but where I live, I choose not to treat year round because the chances of my dogs getting heart worm in the winter here is nil. I don't believe the heart worm meds come with no cost to the dogs immune system. It is a pesticide after all. I understand that you are passionate and that passion comes from your love but please also understand that those that disagree also are passionate and our passion comes from love as well. It's not about the cost of the meds and it doesn't mean we don't care if our pets die. I guess we just have different opinions and ultimately, I think it's a good thing to research, discuss and come to our own decisions.
And, as to the reason you quoted me....that person actually admitted not giving heartworm preventatives is like playing Russian Roulette. You can defend doing that to a pup you love? Sorry, but I really don't get it. Unless you are willing to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, I don't think you should do it to a pup you love.


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