Got it down
 

I got the list of foods down to three. These foods seem great. Now which to get. I found :

Orijen puppy

Puppy | Orijen

Canine Caviar lamb and pearl millet

http://www.caninecaviar.com/product/lamb-pearl-als/

Earthborn Meadow feast

Meadow Feast - Ingredients : Earthborn Holistic Pet Food

They are all great foods. I was wondering which to get. Getting him off California Natural Lamb and rice.

This is what I just switched to from the California Natural..so far so good:thumbup: fingers crossed!! I emailed the company for samples and they sent them right out. They sent small sample bags and there were $3.00 off coupons to use when purchasing .

I just found out for Biewers, I need to try to get a kibble not higher than 28% or less even better. So Orijen is out. Good idea Michelle thanks :)

Toki's currently on the EB Meadow Feast. She seems to like it and be doing well on it!

Do Biewers require something different than a standard Yorkie?

I'm looking in to that food Michelle is using too.

I found out through another group that I belong to that too much protein is no good for them. I need to try to get a kibble not higher than 28% or less even better. Earthborn fits in with the percentage

Earthborn Holistic® Meadow Feast™ Natural Dog Food: Guaranteed Analysis

Crude Protein, not less than 26.00%
Crude Fat, not less than 15.00%
Crude Fiber, not more than 5.00%
Moisture, not more than 10.00%
Calcium, not less than 1.20%
Phosphorus, not less than 1.00%
Vitamin E, not less than 300 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), not less than 100 mg/kg*
L-Carnitine, not less than 15 mg/kg*
Beta-Carotene, not less than 5 mg/kg*
Taurine, not less than 0.05%*
Omega-6 Fatty Acids, not less than 2.10%*
Omega-3 Fatty Acids, not less than 1.70%*

Glad to see you've got one in mind, hope Galen does fantastic on it! FYI, if there's other sources of protein coming from veggies like peas or from grains like corn, the actual crude protein coming from the actual meat protein is less.

Yeah I saw. I love that Earthborn has flaxseed and cranberries and Blueberries. But I worry about all the peas and tapioca. Canine Caviar has less ingredients but no peas and tapioca. I do not know that I am just making myself crazy over this. Here is the ingredients of both

Earthborn Holistic® Meadow Feast™ Natural Dog Food: Ingredients

Lamb Meal, Peas, Tapioca, Canola Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Pea Protein, Pea Fiber, Flaxseed, Natural Flavors, Blueberry Fiber, Cranberry Fiber, Apples, Blueberries, Carrots, Spinach, Cranberries, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, DL-Methionine, L-Lysine, Taurine, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Beta-Carotene, Manganese Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Yucca Schidgera Extract, Rosemary Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Plantarum Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product.

Canine Caviar Lamb and Pearl Millet ALS dinner

Dehydrated Lamb, Pearl Millet, Lamb Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), Sun Cured Alfalfa, Aspergillus Niger Fermentation Culture, Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Culture, Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Culture, Sun-Cured Kelp, FOS (prebiotic), Calcium Proteinate, Sodium Chloride, Lecithin, Choline Chloride, Parsley, Fenugreek, Peppermint, Taurine, Selenium, Whole Clove Garlic, Vitamin E, Zinc Proteinate, Vitamin C, Papaya, Rose Hips, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Niacin, Beta-Carotene, Manganese Proteinate, Vitamin D3, Biotin, Vitamin A, Riboflavin, Vitamin B12, Potassium Proteinate, Folic Acid.

28% what? Protein?

Good read on Pea Fiber here, it's an insoluble fiber, so it will add bulk to the stool & help the food pass through the stomach & intestines. Wonder why they need this? It's a highly processed food & it needs help getting digested. Another Pet Food Filler Ingredient Revealed: Pea Fiber

Talks about tapioca here, it's essentially a binder/filler. It's in some grain free kibbles to help bind it. It's not considered good bc it's high up on the ingredient list, so there's a significant amount in the food.
Raw Kibble: Is This Pet Food Good for Your Pets?

Since Earthborn gives out samples, I would try it & see how Galen does on it. If he does well (nice firm poopies is a way to tell), that's all that matters. The above 2 ingredients will not hurt him. There's going to be something in EVERY kibble that's not nutritious for a dog or cat...there's no perfect kibble. You can supplement by giving canned food or fresh veggies (slightly blanched & blended is best), boiled/cooked chicken or salmon, etc. all w/no additional seasonings. Help put some moisture into his diet & a little more protein bc actual protein coming from a meat source is much much less.

Yes sorry 28% protein

Peanut tried the Lamb and Pearl Millet ALS dinner he really liked it.

Have you decided on which food you're going to try with Galen?

Toki is currently eating the EB Meadow Feast...she's lost a couple ounces on it (which is good in our case!) and I have Teddy on CC Open Sky. I also picked up a bag of the grain-inclusive CC (Chicken and Pearl Millet) when I had my store special order for me so I'm curious if those formulas are as good as the grain-free. So far so good for both pups!

Thanks for the links, they were very informative.

Peanut really didn't like the Chicken. He is more up class kinda dude, likes the higher quality meats. I can't wait for the Buffalo to come out!!

Yikes.. Peas ,Pea protein, AND pea fiber, along with tapioca, flaxseed- Peanut would not be able to tolerate those ingredients.

LOL

Toki is pretty non-discriminating when it comes to dog food so I'm hoping she'll eat the chicken...worst case scenario is us having to dress it up with wet food which she gets anyway so not a big deal. And I'm really glad that we tried the CC for Teddy...he had okay stools on the several trial size bags of Royal Canin YT that we went through but they got pretty soft if we tried to increase the amount of food that we gave him (too much I guess?). With the Open Sky, his stools are pretty awesome even with the increased amounts of food we are feeding him to put on weight so that makes me happy...and his coat is so dark, shiny, and smooth! Not sure if it's the food or fish oil or something else but we'll definitely keep CC in our rotation!

I'm not sure if I have been feeding the Earthborn long enough to tell,( 100% transitioned as of Friday) but this weekend Jada and Bogie had nice firm poops but fewer poops..even DH noticed yesterday there weren't as many tootsie rolls on the pads :D I also just emailed the company about the amount of protein coming from the pea and pea meal.

This is the same for Toki since we switched over...she doesn't have bad ones normally regardless of the food she's on but on the EB they are definitely smaller and firmer!

I called up Canine Caviar and asked them a few questions. I also asked if they have sample packages. No they don't. I guess I have to go to the store in the next state. The store is only 21 miles away

Did you talk to Juile? She is really nice and helpful.

Lol He is!! Peanut's coat and skin look awesome! Glad Teddy is having some good results. Food is such a big deal and so darn stressful LOL I don't know what I would do if I didn't have Yt to talk about food issues and hear about foods I havent even heard about!!

Sending good vibes for Toki!! Hope it all works out!

I switched to Earthborn holistic meadow feast last month when natural Balance sold to del monte:(
The girls love it, the stools are nice and firm and they adjusted fine. I am satisfied with the results:) They poop twice a day.

No I didn't.

Hmm If you want to try and call again and ask for Juile- shes really helpful. You can ask her if they have any trial 1 pound bags she can send you. Maybe tell her Deanna told you to call her for help ( if she remembers me you can say the girl who brought Peanut the Yorkie in to switch out food) LoL worth a try :p

Ok. I will try. Hey what do I got to loose :D

;) Any luck?

I called this morning. She wasn't in yet. Then I called later and she was not available. She was working on a project . . . lmao

LOL Oh well!

Truly healthy food is important for every one.