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Teresiana 04-30-2013 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KathyKelben (Post 4201011)
by-products are usually hoofs, lips, beaks, etc. they are used as a protein source. Whether it is chicken by products, beef by products, pork by products, it doesn't matter, they are by- products.... not meat.
Basically, animal by-products are what’s left of a slaughtered animal after the edible parts have been removed. They include the waste2 of meat processing not intended for human consumption. For example…
Feet
Backs
Livers
Lungs
Heads
Brains
Spleen
Frames
Kidneys
Stomachs
Intestines
Undeveloped eggs
If these parts are not refrigerated immediately after the animal is killed they cannot be used for human consumtion, but can be for pet food. Also, animals that arrive at the dog food plant dead on arrival cannot be used for human consumtion, but can be used in pet food.
Now, I don't know, but I stand by my decision not to feed by-products. The other thing... dogs with allergies probably shouldn't be eating any corn.
Just saying.
Thanks for the info. My pups used to eat a Prey Model Raw diet. They ate all of those ingredients you listed. The only difference is that they were in raw form. There are many parts of an animal/ingedients that are not fit for human consumption, yet beneficial & necessary in a canine diet. Since you stated you're not feeding this food to your pups, then it really shouldn't matter to you anyway.

chachi 04-30-2013 12:38 PM
I dont believe they are using dead dogs for dog food I just dont and where is the evidence they are

Teresiana 04-30-2013 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MyDearSam (Post 4201027)
What's the price per can on these? I'll definitely have to look for them on my next trip to Petsmart.

The smaller cans would be great, because little Mr. Persnickety will barely eat canned after it's been refrigerated.
I think they're around $1.50 per can. They were on sale at PetSmart when I got mine, so I think I paid $1.40something.

tokipoki 04-30-2013 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MyDearSam (Post 4201027)
What's the price per can on these? I'll definitely have to look for them on my next trip to Petsmart.

The smaller cans would be great, because little Mr. Persnickety will barely eat canned after it's been refrigerated.
Mine were $1.59 per can, $1.49 if you are a PetPerks member at Petsmart :)

lovespandp 04-30-2013 12:43 PM
Ah I love how small the cans are!! I wish CC had small cans like that!

Let us know how they like it!! :D

Teresiana 04-30-2013 12:46 PM
Well Mr. Finicky gobbled it up! That's saying a lot since he now turns his nose up at my homecooking. :confused: I'm really not THAT bad of cook!!

Yorkiemom1 04-30-2013 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4200980)
I don't have a problem with the ingredients. My dogs do great on RC foods. Recommended by their vets too!!
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Recommended by my vet too....Scientifically formulated and nutritionally balanced.....and the quality control is the best in the industry. This is what is important to me...if any of my dogs would have an adverse reaction to any of the RC formulas, then I would look elswhere, for something else....thank God that has not been an issue....I am THRILLED with the new canned formulas....I have seniors that are going to appreciate this and puppies are easier to wean onto canned food over kibble....I am working desperately to get them to expand their product line in the USA, to include the puppy milk formula.....it would be a terrible thing to get busted smuggling in puppy milk!!!

kimp5 04-30-2013 12:52 PM
SHOOT! I was at petsmart today to get the royal canin kibble yorkie jess eats. I always look to see if they added wet. I didnt look today because Jess was with me and it was her first trip to petsmart..
I grab a couple cans simply nourish. It looks like peope food! The ingredients are pretty straight forward too. I feed her both as a special treat sometimes..Ill look for RC canned next time

Llutz 04-30-2013 12:53 PM
Funny, I just asked the clerk at Petsmart last night why RC doesn't make a canned version! Looking forward to when they are available in Canada, especially in a smaller can, like others, Enzo likes it much better before its refrigerated :)

Do you just mix a teaspoon or so with their dry kibble?

KathyKelben 04-30-2013 12:59 PM
I just looked these up on dog food advisor ... and I do care because I care about the health of all dogs not just my own. the difference in feeding those ingredients raw and feeding them in a can of food is in the processing.

Our dogs would also probably love to eat potato chips all day, or some other snack, but it doesn't mean it is good for them.

Teresiana 04-30-2013 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Llutz (Post 4201051)
Funny, I just asked the clerk at Petsmart last night why RC doesn't make a canned version! Looking forward to when they are available in Canada, especially in a smaller can, like others, Enzo likes it much better before its refrigerated :)

Do you just mix a teaspoon or so with their dry kibble?
Sometimes I mix it with kibble. Sometimes I don't. They're happy with it both ways :)

pstinard 04-30-2013 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 4201015)
I found something that might be helpful.

The levels of nutrients in the table below are expressed on a 'dry matter' (DM) basis. On most pet food labels, the levels listed in the guaranteed analysis are expressed on an 'as fed' basis. To convert 'as fed' to 'dry matter' a simple conversion is necessary. If a dry food has 10% moisture we know that it has 90% dry matter. So we look at the label and check the protein level. That reads 20%. Next, we divide the 20 percent protein by the 90% dry matter and we get 22%, which is the amount of protein on a dry matter basis. Does this make sense so far? Good. Now let us compare this to canned food that has 80% moisture. We know that with 80% moisture we have 20% dry matter. The label shows 5% protein. So we take the 5% and divide it by 20% and we get 25% protein on a dry matter basis. So the canned food has more protein per pound on a dry matter basis after all the water is taken out. We can do the same for fat, fiber, etc. Dog Food Standards by the AAFCO

In other words, if it has 80% moisture and 5% protein, you get a total protein of 25%, since this has an even higher amount of protein it would be higher than 25% around 40%, if the moisture was 80%, less if it was lower. These all have varying amounts of moisture.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: *Ding* *Ding* *Ding* Nancy wins the prize for the first complete and correct answer about the protein calculations :)

Teresiana 04-30-2013 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KathyKelben (Post 4201060)
I just looked these up on dog food advisor ... and I do care because I care about the health of all dogs not just my own. the difference in feeding those ingredients raw and feeding them in a can of food is in the processing.

Our dogs would also probably love to eat potato chips all day, or some other snack, but it doesn't mean it is good for them.
It's very generous of you to do research on behalf of the health of all of our pets. I too have done research, but for my pets only. Choosing what to feed your pet is a very personal & individual decision. I feed my pets what works best for them. I don't expect everyone to feed their pets the same thing I do. Every animal is unique & every pet owner has their own philosophy. I do understand what a by-product is & now everyone who reads this thread will as well. However, this is a thread announcing my excitement about a new product I discovered this week. If you choose not to feed this product to your pet, I respect that. If you wish to educate people about your philosophies of canine health & diet, please start another thread.

KathyKelben 04-30-2013 01:48 PM
well said and point taken. Sorry to offend.

pstinard 04-30-2013 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KathyKelben (Post 4201101)
well said and point taken. Sorry to offend.
I think that there is a little Yorkie in all of us :D.

I'm excited by the new Royal Canin products as well. My Bella eats their dry food, which gets a recommended rating by Dogfood Advisor. I'll be interested in reading their ratings for Royal Canin canned foods (the ratings haven't come out yet), but I'm glad that there is another feeding option.


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