Oh dear...we had just switched luma to Acaba pscifica!!!!! Ugh!!!! She is still itchy but that happened when we went from totw to fromm gold puppy.

Don't know what to do now...maybe ill try a different fromm formula...

i hear ya, my oscar was on acana and doing great on it till we bought one of the "new" bags. then he suddenly started to get itchy.
after that bag was gone i swithched him to
blue buffalo wildneress duck recipe
and he is doing great

I am completely devastated today :( I have just completed the "starvation technique" (food 3x/day for 20 mins) and my extremely finicky Yoshi FINALLY ate on a regular basis!!! At first, I tried to feed him Fromm Surf & Turf. He wasn't having it. So I laid out all of the kibble I had & let him choose. He picked the Acana Grasslands. I thought..."Good boy! he went for the good stuff!". He's been eating Acana Grasslands for the past 2 days on a regular basis.

Unfortunately, I've been noticing frequent itching & really runny eyes...big, thick white eye boogers. One of his eyes is even a little puffy. At first, I thought it was from playing in the grass. But with all this talk about the Acana formula change, I'm thinking that these are food allergy symptoms. He's also a little gassy. Not anything major, but enough that I notice a difference. I don't have any experience with food allergies, so I'm wondering if anyone can confirm my suspicions.

:( From what I understand, food allergies are somewhat rare but there does seem to be something up with the new formulas that is not agreeing with so many of our pups here on YT. You know how excited I was to transition Toki over to Orijen/Acana after this next bag of Fromm but now I'm leaning more toward just sticking with the Fromm for now and supplementing her diet with some type of raw *sigh*

All I can say is that when Riley was on FROMM Chicken A La Veg and the Salmon formula, his eyes were "Runny" literally, liquid running down each cheek.... and he was Gassy... where he could clear a room. I took him to the Vet and was told it was more than likely a reaction to the grains in the FROMM... I took him off of the FROMM and those symptoms went away and have not come back.

I personally would very Highly recommend CANINE CAVIAR. He is doing Exceptionally well on it. I am soooo Happy now and so is he!! He literally shrieks when I am getting the kibble out of the bag... and this a.m. he was sitting by his food bowl waiting for it!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

One more thing.....

I was Extremely Bummed that with the last bag of Acana, Wild Prairie..... Riley got very itchy and his Tummy broke out in small nasty dark dry patches... - I switched him to CANINE CAVIAR :thumbup: :thumbup:, which he has been on for 7-days now and his Tummy has really started clearing up in that amount of time. [ NOTE: We have not changed anything else in our daily routine... we go on the same amount of walks outside as we have when we started the new bag of Acana... which actually haven't been for too long because it has been sooooo HOT here, in DC!! ]

Attaching Before and After Photos. The first two are after the new bag of Acana and before the Canine Caviar. The second two are after taking him off of the Acana and switching him to the Canine Caviar... We are on our way to a clear/smooth tummy!! :D

there is definetly somethind odd about the
"new & improved" acana.

I would love to see the ingredient lists of the old and new side by side. It should isolate what the issue is and let a lot of pet owners know what is bothering their babies.

Wow! That is quite a noticeable difference! I'm glad that Riley is clearing up...looking good!

Thanks!! He is such a little trooper!! :thumbup: :)

First thing I noticed was different amounts of ingredients. Chicken meal used to be #1. Now the 1st ingredient is Deboned Chicken which is a lot of water and less protein. They also made the bag smaller for the same price.

I haven't check the other ingredients, just the first ones listed for the protein content. The protein is LESS now than in the old formula.

Louise :(

You need to send these pictures to the company!!

Louise

If anyone is interested....
 

I just quickly typed up the old ingredients list from an Acana brochure that I had (excuse any typos) and I copy/pasted the new formulas below the old ones straight from Acana's website. I'm not sure if a specific ingredient change is causing the difference some of you all have been having issues with or if proportions of different things have changed or what but it's still interesting to compare

Wild Prairie:

Chicken meal, russet potato, boneless chicken, boneless walleye, whitefish meal, peas, chicken fat (naturally preserved with vitamin E), sun-cured alfalfa, chicken liver, boneless Lake Whitefish, whole eggs, salmon oil, sweet potato, pumpkin, spinach, turnip greens, tomatoes, carrots, apples, organic kelp, cranberries, blueberries, juniper berries, black currents, chicory root, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, lavender flowers, summer savory, rosemary

*New Formula* Deboned chicken, chicken meal, green peas, turkey meal, chicken liver oil, field beans, red lentils, whole potato, deboned turkey, whole egg, deboned walleye, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fibre, chicken liver, herring oil, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach greens, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender, rosemary.

Pacifica:

Boneless salmon (natural source of EPA, DHA), salmon meal, herring meal, russet potato, peas, whitefish meal, sweet potatoes, salmon oil (preserved with vitamin E), sun-cured alfalfa, boneless herring, boneless flounder, natural fish flavors, pumpkin, turnip greens, spinach, tomatoes, carrots, apples, organic kelp, cranberries, blueberries, juniper berries, black currants, chicory root, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, lavender flowers, summer savory, rosemary

*New Formula* Boneless salmon, salmon meal, herring meal, whitefish meal*, green peas, red lentils, whole potato, boneless herring, boneless flounder, herring oil, field beans, canola oil, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fibre, natural fish flavour, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach greens, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender, rosemary

Grasslands:

Boneless lamb, lamb meal, salmon meal, herring meal, russet potato, peas, chicken fat (naturally preserved with vitamin E), sweet potato, boneless walleye, sun-cured alfalfa, natural lamb flavor, boneless duck, whole eggs, pumpkin, spinach, turnip greens, tomatoes, carrots, apples, organic kelp, cranberries, blueberries, juniper, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, lavender flowers, summer savory, rosemary

*New Formula* Deboned lamb, lamb meal, duck meal, whitefish meal*, whole peas, red lentils, field beans, whole potato, deboned duck, whole eggs, deboned walleye, duck fat, herring oil, lamb liver, herring meal, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fibre, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender, rosemary.

Ranchlands:

Deboned beef, lamb meal, herring meal, russet potato, peas, beef liver, herring oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), deboned bison, deboned lamb, sun-cured alfalfa, salmon meal, lamb liver, pea fiber, pumpkin, spinach, turnip greens, tomatoes, carrots, apples, kelp, cranberries, blueberries, juniper berries, chicory root, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, lavender flowers, summer savory, rosemary

*New Formula* Deboned beef, beef meal, green peas, deboned lamb, lamb meal, whitefish meal*, herring oil, field beans, red lentils, whole potato, salmon meal, deboned bison, beef liver, lamb liver, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fibre, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, whole pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach greens, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender, rosemary.

Thank you. I'm definitely going to look into Canine Caviar. At this point, I have nothing to lose. I'm so sorry Riley had those itchies on his tummy! Poor little guy. But they seem to have cleared up quickly since you made the switch.

I forgot to ask...what is the kibble size of the Canine Caviar? Is Riley eating one of the all life stages formulas?

It looks like they included more peas and red lentils and moved potato further down the list. I haven't used Acana, but just bought a bag of Horizon Legacy to try with my dogs. It looks really good and I'm excited for them to try it. They will be starting on that this weekend. I also feed them about an ounce of frozen raw each evening as a supplement to their kibble. They LOVE the frozen raw! Now every time I go to the freezer, they think I'm getting something for them. LOL

Riley is eating the Wild Ocean Grain FREE ALS Dinner...

Attached is a photo of the kibble size on a Quarter, Dime and Nickel.
Hope this helps!! :thumbup: :D

Wild Ocean Grain Free ALS Dinner

I may just do that!! ;)

That's the perfect size! Thank you!

Yes, I agree!! :thumbup:
You are very welcome!! :)

Peas have been a problem for some dogs as far as allergic reactions. It looks like they did start using a lot of peas quite far up the list. That is too bad since peas have already been shown to bother some dogs. I don't think it is very helpful to have such a long ingredient list when they can get the same nutrition using less ingredients and so lowering the chance of reactions.

can someone Gove me a quick rundown of raw diet info? I have heard so much about it but really am confused as to why people give it as opposed to dry kibble. Do you cook it? Why do you only givr it some days?

Company Reply on Facebook
 

Here are the two replies from Champion Petfoods regarding Wild Prairie on FACEBOOK:


Champion Petfoods
We've had great reports from those feeding the new formula now. What we've done with Wild Prairie is add more fresh meat and fresh veggies and it seems to be an easy transition and as palatable as the previous formula. If you'd like to cont...act us by message or call our Customer Care team, we can give you more details based on each of your dogs' food preferences. We are available toll-free Monday to Friday MST at 1-877-939-0006

Champion Petfoods And here's a bit of a break down of the new formula: 30% FRESH MEAT - fresh cage-free chicken, free-run turkey and nest-laid eggs, bringing Wild Prairie’s FRESH, never-frozen meat content to a full 30%.

8% FRESH LOCAL FRUITS & VEGETABLES -... Wild Prairie now includes 8% FRESH Red Delicious apples and Bartlett pears from British Columbia’s Okanagan Valley, and whole vegetables from local Prairie farms, all loaded with goodness and delivered FRESH EACH DAY.

UNMATCHED INGREDIENTS - Four of Wild Prairie’s top five ingredients are from chicken or turkey to deliver a high biological value [BV] for amazing performance and palatability, Duck meal replaces salmon meal, and fresh turkey is now included.

LOW GLYCEMIC - Locally-grown lentils serve as a low glycemic carbohydrate to deliver a biologically appropriate source of energy. Burbank potatoes are delivered FRESH, never powdered or dried, to substantially reduce the glycemic response.

OTHER NOTABLE CHANGES
• Chondroitin increased 3 times: occurs naturally in the cartilage and connective tissue in ACANA’s fresh fish
• Glucosamine decreased: occurs naturally in ACANA’s fish ingredients
• Protein Reduced 2%: fresh turkey added, fish meal removed
• Fibre increased: low glycemic red lentils improve digestive health

Also, Luma has those same spots as Riley!!!! Omg! I have been wondering wuat tue heck it was, sue uas tons of tiny spots that have scabbed over...they are all over her tummy and legs, and on her sides!!! She bites them when I'm jot looking, so they are all scabby and flaky. I've been worried its something bad like a skin mite or something.

There are some that would disagree with the need for all that carbohydrate in a dog's diet. Also I had a dog that had a terrible reaction to glucosamine. It just gets very complicated when dog food companies start using so many ingredients. It just increases the chance of reactions.

Maybe with the changing of their formula is the reason for my Yorkie to have had bloody stools. I had noticed it immediately his stool was darker, but after a week or so I had to help his poo out and it was a string of blood. I took him to the Vet and long story short, he's not on Acana anymore. I was in the midst of switching and now am on "Natural Balance". Acana is too rich of a food the lady at the dog supply store told me and suggested "Natural Balance"....which he loves.

Well I haven't been on YT for awhile and it looks like it's a good thing I popped in today.
I just got a bunch of big bags of Acana because my Jenna (Yorkie) and our ten month old corgi x love it. Now it looks like we'll be switching again! I was wondering if it was seasonal allergies causing Jenna's itching but Ebon has upset tummy too often when she eats this kibble.
:(
Why can't dog food companies leave well enough alone? I'd say this was a recession based choice but can this really be blamed on the economy of using more veg vs. meat?
Orijen began bothering my dogs months ago and that's why we switched to Acana which seemed less irritating to them. It can't be recent drought and food shortage that caused this.

Very disappointing. Probably better start cooking homemade for them in greater quantities than I already have to. :(

I was looking into switching to Canine Caviar & I got worried about the ingredient list. If peas/pea protein is what Yoshi is reacting to, then I'm not confident he'll do much better on Canine Caviar. I really don't want to spend hundreds more on playing trial & error. Plus, it's hard to find a good kibble (even grain free) without peas! I just want him to eat :(

I decided to order Darwin's. If he reacts to something in his raw, then I may be able to pinpoint what it is since the ingredient list is so short. All varieties do contain flax seed.

Here's the ingredient list from their chicken formula:
Ground Chicken Meat (including Bone), Chicken Gizzards, Chicken Hearts, Chicken Livers, Carrots, Squash, Yams, Zucchini, Celery, Romaine, Parsley, Apple Cider Vinegar. (Vegetables may vary based on seasonality.), Organic Kelp Meal, Organic Ground Flax Seed, Sea Salt, Inulin (Extract of Chicory), Zinc, Copper and Iron Amino Acid Chelates, Vitamin E.

In the meantime, I'm giving him ZiwiPeak Lamb. I sprinkle a few coconut chips on top for dinner - a gift from Tokipoki :). I've also been offering him a few pieces of NV chicken raw bites because that's what I have on hand.

I've got my fingers crossed that he does okay on the Darwin's!

Riley Loooves Peas!! I give them to him as treats!! :)

Darwins is supposed to be really really good!!
I contacted them to get more information a while back.
They called me but I was so busy at the time I was unable to call them back. Keep me posted on how it is!! :thumbup: :)

The Darwin's does look like a pretty good list. The only thing I would wonder about is the Flax seed. It has been known to cause loose stools in some dogs. It is further down the list so hopefully it won't have too much effect. I don't know why they don't just use the oil instead of just grinding the seeds. Maybe change over slowly to make sure he doesn't have a problem. i switched Gracie to Primal for a while but it has pumpkin and sunflower seeds. She did have some loose stools at first. I started cutting it more with her other food and it went away. I am going back to Stella & Chewy's though. She likes it better and has always done well on it.