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ladyjane 04-15-2012 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Sis (Post 3883343)
i do both because the two boys need the extra calories--they eat a lot morre then Remy. It also makes me feel better that they are getting all the nutrients they need-- even though I am sure they are with the recipe and the balance it. The volume of food I would have to cook is a bit overwhelming to me so I "balance" it with kibble. I did research to be sure I am getting a high quality kibble.

I works for me
It does not assure you that they are getting the correct nutrients unless the kibble is most of their diet.

It would be best for you to consult with a vet nutritionist if you want to home cook. :)

This is a great site:

www.petdiets.com

sugarmamma 04-15-2012 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3883674)
It does not assure you that they are getting the correct nutrients unless the kibble is most of their diet.

It would be best for you to consult with a vet nutritionist if you want to home cook. :)

This is a great site:

Welcome to Pet Diets
Shinja and Rhonda and I all use www.petdiets.com

ladyjane 04-15-2012 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarmamma (Post 3883677)
Shinja and Rhonda and I all use Welcome to Pet Diets
Well, I suppose I am confused about homecooking. I really thought that it was either that or kibble....I also thought that supplements were added, not found in commercial dog food.
I home cook for one of mine and the nutritionist did not suggest doing that.
What do I know? *shrug* I will take my uninformed comments somewhere else. :D

sugarmamma 04-15-2012 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3883687)
Well, I suppose I am confused about homecooking. I really thought that it was either that or kibble....I also thought that supplements were added, not found in commercial dog food.
I home cook for one of mine and the nutritionist did not suggest doing that.
What do I know? *shrug* I will take my uninformed comments somewhere else. :D
That is why we add the nutritional supplement Balance it.

ladyjane 04-15-2012 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarmamma (Post 3883693)
That is why we add the nutritional supplement Balance it.
That is why I wondered why Shinja felt it was necessary to get nutrients from commercial food. :)

sugarmamma 04-15-2012 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Sis (Post 3883343)
i do both because the two boys need the extra calories--they eat a lot morre then Remy. It also makes me feel better that they are getting all the nutrients they need-- even though I am sure they are with the recipe and the balance it. The volume of food I would have to cook is a bit overwhelming to me so I "balance" it with kibble. I did research to be sure I am getting a high quality kibble.

I works for me
She is using Balance It as well.

ladyjane 04-15-2012 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarmamma (Post 3883729)
She is using Balance It as well.
I see that now...but I still do not totally get it.....but that's just me. I am not a nutritional expert.

sugarmamma 04-15-2012 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3883742)
I see that now...but I still do not totally get it.....but that's just me. I am not a nutritional expert.
Neither am I :) We are just all trying to do the best that we can with the knowledge we gain here!

Lil Sis 04-15-2012 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3883721)
That is why I wondered why Shinja felt it was necessary to get nutrients from commercial food. :)

It is not that I found it necessary to get nutrients from commercial food it is that the volume of food I would need to feed the two boys was a bit overwhelming to me.

I guess I felt guilty to stop homecooking but wanted the security that they were getting part of their food from a high quality commercial food. I do add balance it and sometime a drop or two of apple cider vinegar. The recipe I use was from that website. I do belive that without supplements homecooking could be unhealthy--unless you REALLY know what you are doing.

ladyjane 04-15-2012 04:15 PM
I guess I misunderstood your post. I homecook for one of mine and yes, the volume of food is more than what she ate previously but her weight remains constant. I really like that part of it....knowing exactly what to feed. I hate that with commercial foods, I am always guessing. If I did not hate cooking so much, I would home cook for all of them...but only with a consult with a vet nutritionist. I would want each pup to have an exact amount custom made for them.

BabyGirl Rosie 04-15-2012 04:38 PM
As far as Mikki getting the dry kibble, she only gets a few pieces in between her meals. She isn't eating much of it. She is a high energy little thing and honestly just gets hungry. She will eat maybe 4 or 5 pieces of it and that is it. The rest is the home cooking. I am letting her have the dry as a "snack". It is almost like treats to her I guess. Maybe it is the rice or sweet potato that is causing Mikki's problem. I am not really sure. I may try adding a little pumpkin or more green beans to her food. And see how she does from there.

Lil Sis 04-18-2012 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie (Post 3883804)
As far as Mikki getting the dry kibble, she only gets a few pieces in between her meals. She isn't eating much of it. She is a high energy little thing and honestly just gets hungry. She will eat maybe 4 or 5 pieces of it and that is it. The rest is the home cooking. I am letting her have the dry as a "snack". It is almost like treats to her I guess. Maybe it is the rice or sweet potato that is causing Mikki's problem. I am not really sure. I may try adding a little pumpkin or more green beans to her food. And see how she does from there.

How is the green beans and/or pumpkin working?
I think I must do the oposite from you, they get the homecooking as a suppliment to the food. After just reading the post about problems with natural balance (dick van patten's natural balance) I may have to go back on 100% home cooking. I just don't have freezer space for more than a couple of weeks worth of food and sometimes I am not home to make a batch (I know pity party.. sorry). I will work it out.

Lil Sis 04-18-2012 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3883772)
I guess I misunderstood your post. I homecook for one of mine and yes, the volume of food is more than what she ate previously but her weight remains constant. I really like that part of it....knowing exactly what to feed. I hate that with commercial foods, I am always guessing. If I did not hate cooking so much, I would home cook for all of them...but only with a consult with a vet nutritionist. I would want each pup to have an exact amount custom made for them.
I see your point. I did say I like the security of supplementing their food with the kibble in that it made me feel confident they were getting all the nutrients they needed... that is probly what you focused on. I see now if I am using supplements and a correct recipe that is not really needed.

The two boys eat a LOT.. homecooking it would be 2 1/2 to 3 cups per day. I give them 1 cup evenings now and have the kibble out in the morning. It makes morning a little easier and I don't have freezer space for more than a couple weeks if they are on 100% home cooking. I am thinking of trying it again.. but have to do gradually.


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