That letter looks familiar. I think it was posted on the Champion thread here somewhere. It seems there are a few loopholes in the whole thing. Fish that is good enough for fish cakes would not be sent to a rendering plant. So I have major doubts. I'm sure their fish is fit for human consumption AT ONE TIME, but by the time it reaches Champion, is it still?

Makes no difference to me. Champion, BB, Evangers, and Merrick aren't on my list of things to feed. But I'm guessing some people would be really upset by what was found out about them.

BTW, I don't think whatever fish they are using would hurt a dog in itself. It's just that it seems very, very close to a by-product.

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I have never heard/smelled a Sugar fart :D

Oh, I'm not arguing with you, just posting the letter from Champion so one can read for themselves and decide. I don't find it to be a big enough issue to stop feeding it. But that's just my comfort level.

I really don't believe any dry dog kibble is going to have top notch meat sources, otherwise dog food would be insanely expensive and nobody would buy it. I'm not naive enough to think my dog is eating meat that would be sold at the local butcher through processed dry kibble.

I won't feed a lot of dog foods personally... including a ton of the so called "high quality" foods, like Merrick. Also wouldn't choose to feed Science Diet, Pedigree, esp. things like Beneful and Ol' Roy.

But I do trust Champion to a point, and choose to feed it at this point in time. We've had great luck with Acana and always wind up back with it after other foods, because well, he does best on it. And to be perfectly honest, I don't really trust very many dog companies at all. Definitely none 100%. But I'm not up for homecooking, either, so I take what I feel is the best for my dog at this point in time. I don't feel corn, soy, wheat, and sawdust is best for my dog - not to mention all those foods preserved with BHT and BHA, including menadione, etc. Not for me and my dog. But options are definitely becoming limited.

I actually really really prefer Fromm as a company but their foods did not seem to totally agree with my dog. Nothing terrible, but just extra itchiness and more tearing. Once we stopped it, itching stopped. Even Fromm used to make their canned food in China, nothing ever happened, but they did begin making them in the US after many requests to. So even that can be a bit questionable? But overall... I really like them the best in terms of dog food, just wish they made a simpler formula.

Hey, I don't know what it was but Orijen was the WORST for farts. Since we switched to TOTW Pacific Stream...zero gas; easy, solid poops x 2 daily; no smell. Downside...kitty breath!

Kitty breath? Lol

hi , sorry for smelly problem.
oscar never has gas, he is eating evangers pheasant & brown rice
and doing fabulous on it.
my airedale however , whoa had the worst.
this doesn't help you, but he is on a RX diet now for allergies and digestive issues.
the house is dog fart free, lol

I found that when my dogs had gas issues a spoonful of plain yogurt daily seemed to help.

I didn't hear anything about the problems with BB chicken food. Where can I get more info about it?

Ellie May why don't you like BB? I have been feeding the lamb to mine for awhile and no problems until recently when I started mixing canned BB in so I can crush glucosamine tabs in it. I noticed a little gas when I first started putting the canned in it. Now it seems ok. I only add about 4 chunks and cut them into smaller pieces, just enough to mix the tablet into it. I would like to try something else if BB isn't good. Thanks for any suggestions.

Blue Buffalo is a decent food. My son feeds it to his dog and won't feed anything else. We fed it before with no issues. It's one of the better foods at Petsmart and Petco. I like Nature's Variety better though. The Nature's Variety Prairie line is fairly comparable to the regular Blue Buffalo line, but better in my opinion. We fed Nature's Variety for quite awhile and were very happy with it. Petco carries Nature's Variety now, so you can check them out if you wish. They got a little too expensive for us though. That's the only reason we stopped feeding it. Now we look for sales and values for dog food. We only feed the good brands, but buy what we can get a good deal on. Our dogs like the variety too.

I thought Blue Buffalo would be a good food but oh my goodness!! The fart fest every night from 9:30-11pm is just awful. Maybe I just don't notice it the rest of the day or maybe it's just when he's really sound asleep. Ugh! We're going to have to find a better alternative.