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I was not told to watch his gums, no. I am learning as I go along. The label on the Hydromet: Give 4ml by mouth every 8 hours as needed to control cough. As I said he did not cough. The noise he made was when breathing in. He began panting at the vet's office and it became progressively louder and faster. But the vet didn't do a thing but schedule a resection of his palate for the following Friday, I believe. And just let me leave her office. No cough meds was given to him during this terrible episode that was his spiral downward during the night! No sedation. Nothing. Just the bill for blood work for heart worm. I should share this information with that vet and let her know how serious CT can be for a pet. I don't believe she had a clue! Or she wouldn't have let Ted leave in that condition. Thank you for the information. The most important issue with my dog was the inflammation of the trachea and how panicked he became at the hospital. They suggested I pick him up feeling he would calm once he was at home. And he DID! He was on ALL THE MEDS given to me for almost a week. He is still on the Theophylline. The cough med is as needed as it directs on the label. There is no more Pred. The sedative is also on a per need basis. |
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Note that the site does not say WHO is answering those questions. What I can tell you is that I am fairly certain it is not someone who is a vet. The only way I would see a vet suggesting they correct it is if they said the vet made the claim. They are not saying WHO they are. :rolleyes: Not a source I would use...perhaps I would read it, but I would look for valid medical research data to back any claims made. |
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Glad to hear the Pred has helped the inflammation. The Hydromet just isn't labelled correctly. It should say for spasm not cough. You're right. It is not a cough. Mine was given Tussagon; however, I have heard a lot of ppl hear have been given Hydromet. Cricket's was managed for years, but I believe she went younger than she should have bc of this terrible disorder. Good luck to you. If anything comes up in the future you would like to talk about, you can always PM me. |
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Seems like an actual site to me though. They do ask for donations, but I am sure any web site can be self serving, no? I am NOT sure if I can get financial information from them, I am sure they have a legal dept of some type for that. I repeat, a site that claims to help animals then posts erroneous information just doesn't seem too credible, to me. Today with all of the law suits, and pets becoming members of the family, one must be careful NOT to diagnose or prescribe lest they get hit with law suits - wouldn't you agree? I found the info about lomotil very informative. There are always side effects, precautions, drug interactions, etc. Then there is that ONE SIZE FITS ALL mentality to get around as well. Some do well with one type of medication, while others do NOT. I am one to get as much info good/bad as I can and ask ask ask ask as many questions as I can. I have to agree to the treatment and care of my furry family, I better make sure I know as much as possible. That is why I am so upset that NOT ONE "VET" SHARE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT CT WHILE TED WAS HAVING EPISODES. The animal care industry failed Ted with this. I have learned from it and it will help me to learn as much as I can to protect him. The feeling of admonishing that "vet" will subside in time. But she was the one that came away with almost $500 OF MY MONEY. AND NO TREATMENT FOR A CRITICAL PATIENT. |
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His eyes are so clear and bright. He is so active. I am happy its raining for the urge to run is limited - he goes after the squirrels from next door. I have installed temp fencing and made the yard so much smaller. His meals have been downsized. I am a helicopter mom: always hovering. Thanks again. I do appreciate the help (even tho the vet was a bust!!) :) |
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MY opinion is based upon real data from a Veterinary Manual....my "opinion" is that Immodium is not a substitute for Lomotil when used for Collapsing Trachea. I would suggest that anyone interested should consult with a licensed vet to find out whose "opinion" is correct. Here are the exact words used on that website: Question: Is Lomotil good for my dogs collapsing trachea? Answer: Lomitil is an opiate antidiarrheal drug, similar to loperamide (Immodium), which has largely replaced it because Lomotil was Rx only and Immodium is OTC. To the best of my knowledge, these drugs have motility-modifying effects only on the GI system, not on the respiratory system. Like any other opioid drug, at high enough doses, they could cause respiratory depression (which may or may not be a good thing in a dog with tracheal collapse). At any rate, since tracheal collapse is a structural problem from degenerating cartilage rings and not a "spasm" problem, I can't see how these drugs would be useful by reducing "spasms" of the trachea. One way that they might be helping (if they do indeed help), is that, being opioid agonists, they possibly have at least a little antitussive (cough inhibiting) effect, although again, the GI motility effect is the main action with these drugs. So, if the patient is coughing and these drugs are even weak cough suppressants, there might be some improvement seen. However, since there are proven dependable cough suppressants already available to us (such as hydrocodone), I would much rather use one of them, and possibly a tranquilizer also if that was needed. -------None of the above is given out as factual information...it is merely the person's "opinion". |
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Here is a post where I quoted the book : http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3280312-post15.html |
They make mention that no trials have been done. The only thing I can say is that I have had it help one of my pups....and I have seen good results in two other pups with CT. It is far from a cure......and again, I am only posting what I have had experience with. No one drug fixes CT. What I found with the last pup who had it was that experimenting with different drugs and also varying them helped. One specialist felt that alternating meds is of benefit...and it did help. |
I know personally that every time I took Lomotil it had a very sedating effect on me and I would tend to think it would have that side effect on a dog. |
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Here is a good site that gives information about medical management. Michigan Veterinary Specialists - Collapsing Trachea A quote from that site: Treatment When treating the effects of collapsing trachea, multiple medications may be used. Medications can not reverse the changes that have occurred to the trachea, but can help make your pet more comfortable. During the acute phase, respiratory distress and severe bouts of coughing are treated with medication that relax the trachea and lung and sedate your dog. |
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