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06-14-2011, 03:35 AM | #1 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States
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| Thoughts on Raw Diet..... I have been reading on the raw diet and wanted to get any thoughts out there. I know there are mix views and most vets are against it. Do any of you feed your Yorkie raw? Thanks |
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06-14-2011, 06:30 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I do, and I really love it. We have quite a few raw feeders here (some feed pre-made, some feed prey model). I like pre-made both bc of simplicity, and bc of choking hazards that can come w/ prey model. Marcel has an extremely tiny throat, and the risk w/ prey is too great for him. I've been feeding raw for about 3 years now...? With raw, their poops are tiny and non-smelly. It's also supposed to help w/ teeth bc the enzymes aren't cooked out...the studies would have a tough time proving this though. Some people are less supportive of raw, but are generally very supportive of the people here who choose this route - which is nice. We used to get in some heated convos here regarding raw and that def calmed down. So nice!
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06-14-2011, 06:33 AM | #3 |
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| If I had a healthy dog I would consider it. Both of mine are liver compromised and their specialist feels that raw is too great a risk in a liver compromised dog. However, before I found out about their liver condition I did try PRIMAL samples once and I have never, ever seen a dog eat more enthusiastically in my entire life.
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06-14-2011, 06:43 AM | #4 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Vallejo, California
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| I was just looking at the Nature's Variety Instinct Raw last night and I am pretty decided that I will try it. They even sent me a $3 coupon to try it out. I have read many arguments for/against raw and decided to see for myself. I am also going to the pre-made route just because I still feel a little weird feeding my dog a whole chicken wing with bones in. I keep thinking he's going to choke.
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06-14-2011, 09:29 AM | #5 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| I don't feed or recommend raw. Before starting this kind of diet, please make sure none of the following would be something you'd be concerned about your pup consuming. And if you do have concerns, find out what needs to be done to make sure these things aren't present in the meat that you feed. E. coli Salmonella Campylobacter Neospora Trichinella Toxoplasmosis Brucellosis MRSA Anthracis Trematoda Mesocestoides Taeniasis Etc. Of course not all of these are present in certain places and some are only found in particular species. Some are rare. Some can be found in kibble too. Some things can be killed by freezing at certain temps for specific periods while others can't and there is a potential of reactivation when thawed. Companies who make premade raw foods do some testing. What testing do they do? Is this adequate for you and your pup? Dogs can and do choke on bones, even raw bones. They can tear up intestines leading to emergency surgery, enemas, and potentially death. Prey model diets are balanced by owners or nutritionists without the credentials to decide what a balanced diet is. Veterinary nutritionists (veterinarians who are members of the ACVN) will usually help balance a prey model diet, but they generally do not support feeding this way. When trying to figure out if a pup's diet is balanced (prey model raw or homecooked), a veterinary nutritionist should be consulted. Unbalanced diets can lead to blood and bone problems (very quickly in puppies). Before straying from an AAFCO approved kibble or canned food, remember that just because there aren't a ton of reports of alternative diets negatively affecting pets, that doesn't mean they don't exist. They just aren't always talked about online. And most vets try to redirect their clients to AAFCO approved foods not because they don't know what they're talking about, but because they are about your pets. Next time when a vet says they don't agree with feeding raw or even homecooked, maybe ask them why. Some will have old cases of very serious problems with these diets. I know Ellie's vet does.
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06-14-2011, 11:13 AM | #6 |
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| I do not and would not feed raw. I do home cook for my dogs using fresh organic ingredients. I also have used kibble at times. Good luck!!
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06-14-2011, 11:54 AM | #7 |
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| I feed pre-made raw on occasion. I purchase Stella & Chewy's. He's always done well on it but I don't see a big difference or anything from feeding the raw vs. kibble (high quality kibble). I buy the patties and he will get one S&C patty for breakfast on occasion, when I remember to thaw it out, etc.
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06-14-2011, 01:10 PM | #8 |
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| My vet office is 100% Against feeding raw..... But, I have been feeding Riley Primal RAW Nuggets in the mornings..... about 1 1/2 nuggest and then about 1/8 cup of Acana Kibble, at night.... He seems to be doing fine on it. I know many people who feed raw full-time. I do the kibble only because I don't want to have to worry about doing raw when we travel. |
06-14-2011, 02:12 PM | #9 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Vallejo, California
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| Is it ok to feed raw and kibble? For some reason, my mind is thinking that I read somewhere that one should not mix raw and kibble. I could be wrong and need to research more.
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06-14-2011, 05:28 PM | #10 |
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| I was told by a Nature's Variety Rep. and a Primal Rep. that it is fine if you do one morning and one night.... but you don't want to mix them together at the same meal because the body digests them both differently. |
06-14-2011, 06:26 PM | #11 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Vallejo, California
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| Ok cool! Maybe I can feed NV or Primal in the morning and TOTW at night.
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06-14-2011, 06:50 PM | #12 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny
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| I feed a combination of prey model and premade raw and even occassionally a kibble meal is slipped in there. Mine aren't enthusiastic about kibble anymore though and really don't even like the premade made as much as just the regular raw. |
06-14-2011, 08:45 PM | #13 |
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| I feed Sasha Primal in the morning for breakfast and she loves it. I do feel that it has definitely made a different in her coat, stools and her teeth are in great shape. I've never tried prey-model and I don't really plan on it because I'd be too afraid I wouldn't balance everything out right. |
06-14-2011, 08:55 PM | #14 |
Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MD
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| I wasn't sure about feeding raw until I found Stella and Chewy's dehydrated raw. My 2 love it and it is so convenient. I don't need to worry about refrigeration when we travel.
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06-15-2011, 06:18 AM | #15 |
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| I feed a 100% raw diet which includes snacks and treats. I use Primal pre-made raw for all meals and Bravo!, Vital Essentials, and Primal brand treats and snacks as well as raw fruits and vegetables. The only non-raw treat my boys get are bully sticks. On the occasion my boys will get a raw chicken back bones and all. I feed it to them in the bathtub and they get baths right after b/c it's a bit messy. The premade diet is too easy, thaw, cut, and serve. My boys are extremely healthy according to my vet, no wet dogs smell ever, amazing teeth (Snickers is 3 and my vet said he will not be needing a dental anytime soon), gorgeous non-matting coats, great breathe, great enthusiasm to eat (this is HUGE,) and rarely get sick. I also contribute the raw diet to Snickers's extremely rapid recovery from his LP surgery back in '09 (this is just my opinion!) I love raw for my boys.....I am very happy with it. It's not cheap, but worth it a million times over in my book. Viv
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