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Sorry for your lose. I adopted Tia from a breeder in Pensacola. She came to me at 10 weeks and a little over 8 oz. She also came with every parasite nameable. I was mad, mad, mad! They blamed me taking her outside and that was not the case; she came with everything. I took her outside to potty and brought her right back in. She did not have contact with anything. I hope you did not get your baby from them. Can you pm and let me know who you got her from. |
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"Again, never ever buy a puppy from alabamatoysandteacups.com in Arab, AL." |
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Here's more information on FL's puppy lemon law. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/lemon_fl.html |
It goes without saying anything else that this breeder is not to be considered in the ranks of even mediocrity. However, for the sake of education to other new potential puppy buyers, a breeder review with your entire story; inclusive of both pups would be very beneficial. It would also be very educational if you would encompass what you as a puppy buyer could have done differently that may have prevented these two pups from being lost. |
This breeder boasts of having some of the "Worlds Smallest Micro Teacup Puppies" Alabama Toys & Teacups and has many different breeds in addition to Yorkies. They are accomplishing this by using a 3.5 lb. dam and 2 lb. sire, and as we see now they routinely sell tiny puppies way to early. :eek: Buyer Beware.... or shall I say run baby run (away from this). |
Yes, I think I might just write a review on this breeder. It is clear that she is letting these puppies go too early. If she cared, she wouldn't have rushed me to pick her up. |
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It is quite obvious that I couldn't have prevented this. I'm sorry, but almost offended of your comment. Also, you should know of the grief and sadness I'm going through at this moment in time -it should be painfully obvious that this wasn't my fault. These puppies are being let go too early!!! Everyone I've spoken with has been shocked that she didn't keep these babies until at least 4 months of age. |
I am so sorry for the tragic loss of your London. Shame, shame on that breeder for letting that tiny puppy go at only ten weeks. Florida has some of the toughest "puppy lemon laws" in the country. It doesn't matter what your breeder's contract said. She did business in Florida and must abide by their rules. Since London died with 14 days of her sale, you are entitled to a full refund. If a necropsy had been done and she died from a congenital condition, that guarantee would have extended to a year. The law with a link to a complaint form is here: Pet Law, Division of Animal Industry - FDACS |
Hi, I currently own a 3lb "Teacup" yorkie male. I can tell you that they are VERY VERY fragile. Please treat your "Teacup" like it's Royal Copenhagen china. I would rate myself as a great, loving, responsible pet owner, and I have not been able to prevent all his bumps, bruises, and health issues due to his fragile nature (I sincerely try very hard). Just like having a real baby - people think it's going to be all fresh baby smell, cute outfits, and play time - but as it turns out, it's a crap ton of responsibility. Watch steps, other dogs, children especially, even taking it out of it's element this small/young - be careful w/ germs, I found that putting my furbaby in my bed to sleep was a horrible idea - he tumbled off (luckily into a pillow landing I made just in case), keep an eye on all their teeth falling out (yorkies can have oral health issues), get steps for on/off couch, watch what you wash floors/furniture w/ - a lot of cleaning agents are poisonous, watch flowers (some are poisonous). Get baby butt wipes - poop sticks to their fur. ALWAYS have karo syrup (never know what's gonna make your dog's sugar fluctuate. If you want her to wear clothes, start early, keep it up. Thick leather collars are too heavy, even if they say "Coach" on them. Goodluck. |
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I worried this may happen when I read your post. Having a puppy that tiny is very enticingt because they are cute but you are taking a huge chance as you found out. I am sorry for your loss but also feel you share in some of the responsibility for buying that small of a puppy without being experienced in the care of them. I am not trying to give you a hard way just want you to think before buying a pup that tiny again |
I don't know if it matters with the puppy lemon laws but the "breeder" has her business in Alabama and the OP lives in Florida. Does Alabama have a lemon law? Teresa |
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I agree with you, this isn't about blame, it's about educating ourselves. If the OP hasn't learned anything from the experience, she's doomed to repeat it again. Hopefully, she'll read up in the care of tinies, and not just rely on this forum to teach her all there is to know about their special care, and I also hope she will understand that there is much to be learned about choosing a breeder, you have to know more than the bad breeders know, otherwise they will fool you every time. |
I am so sorry for your loss. I agree, please write a review at some point in hopes to educate other potential buyers. It really bothers me that I'm hearing more and more breeders pushing people to buy dogs. The bad ones really know how to talk to "push a sale". To them it is just that: a sale.:thumbdown So heartbreaking... |
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In reality, though, it can be more difficult to collect an out of state judgment, but it can be done. |
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In my original message I didn't realize you had lost your baby - I'm so sorry for your loss - my thoughts are with you. Take care! |
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First off...a responsible breeder would not/should Not sell a "tiny". As far as this forum goes who else was she supposed to go to?...the seller? Too bad you were not around to direct her in the care of "tinies" or where to go to find the info. She had a lack of judgement, I think she learned by now. If you know of somewhere else to go for educating yourself about "Tinies" then please let us know, not that I will ever need it. |
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One could always start with the YTCA website and it's warning about 'teacups': An Important Message About “Teacup” Yorkies By Gale Thompson If you are interested in purchasing a tiny Yorkie, sometimes called a Teacup, Micro Mini, Teeny, or any other name that means “extra small”, there are several things you should consider. The YTCA’s Code of Ethics precludes the use of the words “teacup”, “tiny specialists”, doll faced, or similar terminology by its members, and for good reason. All breeders may occasionally have an unusually small Yorkie (hopefully healthy), though no responsible breeder breeds for this trait. Many breeders prefer a general weight range of 4-7 pounds believing that size retains desired Toy qualities while maintaining optimum health. The Yorkie Standard states weight "must not exceed seven pounds" and as a prospective pet owner you should realize that even at 7 pounds, the Yorkie is still a small dog. (Females weighing less than 5 pounds are considered by most breeders to be unsuitable for breeding.) Special circumstances often come with extra tiny dogs. They are extremely susceptible to both hereditary and non-hereditary health problems, including birth defects that may go undetected for a long time. Other common problems may include, but are not limited to, diarrhea, vomiting, along with extra and expensive tests prior to routine teeth cleanings and surgeries. Small ones are more likely to have poor reactions to anesthesia and die from it. Tiny dogs are more easily injured by falls, being stepped on and being attacked by other dogs. These health problems nearly always result in large veterinary bills. Please take this into consideration and make purchasing a healthy pet your top priority, not size. The “novelty” is certainly not worth the pain, heartbreak, or extra expense. Remember, all Yorkies are comparatively small. The most important thing is finding a healthy puppy that will grow into a healthy adult, especially since you looking at an 11 to 15 year commitment with your Yorkie. There is much information on our web site. Please take the time to study it before buying a puppy. We wish you the best of luck. |
The YTCA also says this about the age of puppies: If you are seeking a family pet a reputable Yorkshire Terrier Breeder will not release a puppy to a new home before it is twelve (12) weeks old. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America (Awards) |
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But, yes you could have prevented this from happening by being an informed buyer, insisted that the breeder keep the pup until a later date; when the pup was older and weighed more. Also, insisted that the breeder provide you with all the information needed to care for a wee one. I do have sympathy and am devasted that this pup died. However, this one isn't the only pup that died, there a was previous one that you took home too young. So, you should have educated yourself by the time you took the second one home. There is a saying "Fool Me Once, Shame On You. Fool Me Twice Shame On Me" |
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I'm extremely grateful for those of you who are having only positive responses. However, I'm appauled at those of you who think I had anything to do with her coming home with me that early. For one: This was a REPLACEMENT puppy. I took a "replacement" because she obviously wasn't going to give me a refund (I asked her to). I did NOT buy another. For two: I told her that I would rather her keep baby until she was older when she rushed me to pick her up! What else was I supposed to do when the breeder tells me she's in danger of becoming sad from being "left behind"? For three: She rushed me into picking her up after I told her I would much rather she keep her until older. She knew this was a dangerous weight and age to give her to me. My fault is that I ever came in contact with this breeder, although she had glowing references and testimonials (which I researched). Her fault: Back-yard breeding her yorkies so small and then selling them way to early. I DO accept some of the blame, but she knowingly did this not only once but twice. So I think some of you should know the facts before you point fingers which some of you are clearly doing. |
One more quick thing, thank you babbsiam....I appreciate your comment and understanding:) |
You're welcome. This whole thing is just terrible and I am sorry that all of this happened. I feel so sorry for your London. |
Because this thread is here to inform others of what to watch out for when buying a pup, I'm putting out the following. Ultimately, it comes down to the owner of the pet knowing what is right and what is wrong and insisting the right thing be done. If a breeder won't keep the dog until it's physically stable, then it's up to the prospective owner to walk away, even if that means losing some money. It's also up to the prospective owner to be aware of the laws that apply to the sale/transport of dogs in your area. If you are lucky enough to live in a state that has them, you need to know them backwards and forwards:http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/lemon_intro.html A dog sold in Florida would fall under those laws. In this case, it absolutely is the right of the buyer to get a refund if they so choose. The buyer can sign away that right, but why would you purchase from a breeder who wanted you to? Again, knowledge is power. It's incumbent on all prospective pet owners to do their research first, and not be suckered in by a slick sales presentation and a cute little face. |
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