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yli009 01-10-2011 07:34 AM

Pre-op bloodwork: Is it necessary??
 
Ah so I'm having a bit of a dilemma. I made an appointment to have Brady neutered at a low cost clinic (SpayNow) that was recommended by some YT members. However, it's kind of far from me so I was planning to get the pre-op bloodwork done at his vet, which they quoted me for $60 on previous paperwork. But when I called in, they said it would be more than $100!!! SpayNow offers it for $35 so I called to see if they could squeeze me in before his neutering and they can but they kept telling me that bloodwork is not required and they don't see any reason to get it if he's healthy.

I've read stories on YT about sudden issues during surgery due to lack of pre-op bloodwork so I don't know if I should take the chance. What do you guys think??? Should I definitely get it??? Please help!!

kjc 01-10-2011 07:41 AM

I would never not do pre-op bloodwork, especially for a first time surgery on a Yorkie. Just not worth the risk to me.

shodanusmc 01-10-2011 07:50 AM

If you were having surgery, would you turn down blood work before they knocked you out? Get the blood work. Chances are......you never really know. Pets have been lost by not getting it done, even from a teeth cleaning.

Ladymom 01-10-2011 07:51 AM

Please, please get the bloodwork done! It's especially important for Yorkies to have it done since the breed is prone to liver disease. Anesthesia is processed through the liver.

Do you know what type of anesthesia they are using? You have to be very careful with those low cost spay neuter clinics as toy breeds need a special protocol.

Have you read this?

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-protocol.html

Britster 01-10-2011 08:03 AM

I highly recommend the specific place you're going to :) They are all very nice, the place is super clean, they are actually making it bigger right now. The techs in there are knowledgeable too. I was just in there last week to get the heartworm/lyme test. They are basically our primary vet (I've taken him in there for most of his shots, etc) but we do have a vet closer to us.

With that said, I did *not* get pre-op bloodwork for Jackson but now I would opt to definitely get it. Sometimes I just insist on getting stuff done, and they are understanding of that. When Jackson got neutered there, he had not yet had his rabies shot and the receptionist just said 'oh we'll just give him the shot when he comes in for his neuter' but I was not comfortable with that. So I just talked to the tech and vet and they agreed with me. So it's just a matter of speaking up for yourself and your dog. :)

Ellie May 01-10-2011 08:35 AM

It is not an absolute requirement; however, I have no idea why anyone would choose to skip it! And I don't think it's right for a vet to try to talk you out of it. Just ask yourself this. If you opt out of it and a complication occurs resulting in death that would have been caught before, how are you going to feel? Guilt? Much better to just get it! An IV catherter is also not something you want to skip

Ringo1 01-10-2011 08:43 AM

Yes, please get it done. If your baby has any health issues, including liver issues, it could affect the amount and type of anesthesia used. The vet needs to know and I second all the others in wondering why they are trying to talk you out of it.

ladyjane 01-10-2011 09:02 AM

I agree with everything others have said. I always do bloodwork prior to any procedure that requires anesthesia.

roseslevi 01-10-2011 09:02 AM

Preanethetic Blood Work Up

Before any major surgery I suggest you have your veterinarian perform a B.U.N. and creatinine test to gauge kidney health and ALT, AP, bilirubin, and cholesterol tests to detect liver problems. Glucose analysis and total blood proteins detect diabetes or other debilitating diseases and an EKG may detect heart problems. Include a hematocrit, a differential and total white blood cell count. It is extremely rare for all these tests to be normal in a dog that is a high anesthetic risk. When we know of problems in advance we can make modifications in anesthesia that protect your pet's life.


Quoted from a veterinarian advise website

107barney 01-10-2011 09:08 AM

Absolutely you need to do bloodwork. Not only that you should make sure it includes a urinalysis. The last routine blood draw I did on one of my dogs included a urinalysis and to make a long story short, we had to treat her for an infection that would otherwise not have been picked up without the urinalysis.

I also believe that preventative care is important. My dogs have their blood work done annually, and now that two are older, it is done very 6-9 months. This is true whether or not they need a procedure. In fact, Barney has not had anesthesia since he was neutered 10 years ago but he has had many blood draws, and other routine vet care, and has enjoyed good health as a result. Being well is less expensive than being sick, trust me!!

ladyjane 01-10-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3388107)
Absolutely you need to do bloodwork. Not only that you should make sure it includes a urinalysis. The last routine blood draw I did on one of my dogs included a urinalysis and to make a long story short, we had to treat her for an infection that would otherwise not have been picked up without the urinalysis.

I also believe that preventative care is important. My dogs have their blood work done annually, and now that two are older, it is done very 6-9 months. This is true whether or not they need a procedure. In fact, Barney has not had anesthesia since he was neutered 10 years ago but he has had many blood draws, and other routine vet care, and has enjoyed good health as a result. Being well is less expensive than being sick, trust me!!

That is so true. Short cutting on preventative vet care is penny wise pound foolish.

cally930 01-10-2011 09:16 AM

Yes!!! Definitely get it. No, ifs, ands or buts about it.

Buster Brown 01-10-2011 09:18 AM

It is always better to be safe then sorry. Also this way you will have the blood work on file if you ever have to compare the bloodwork at a later date.

Ladymom 01-10-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3388070)
An IV catherter is also not something you want to skip

:thumbup: In case of an emergency, an IV catheter will give the vet instant access to your pet's circulatory system. It can save his life.

Please ask this clinic lots of questions. Some low cost spay neuter clinics skip important procedures like bloodwork, don't use isoflurane, don't give pain meds afterwards, etc. It may be safer to have your regular vet do his neuter.

Does Brady have any retained baby teeth? It is customary to remove them during the spay or neuter. Will the clinic remove them? Many low cost clinics won't. If Brady has to have them removed separately by his regular vet, it will end up costing you more in the long run plus Brady will have to undergo a second anesthesia.

DvlshAngel985 01-10-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3388131)
:thumbup: In case of an emergency, an IV catheter will give the vet instant access to your pet's circulatory system. It can save his life.

Please ask this clinic lots of questions. Some low cost spay neuter clinics skip important procedures like bloodwork, don't use isoflurane, don't give pain meds afterwards, etc. It may be safer to have your regular vet do his neuter.

Does Brady have any retained baby teeth? It is customary to remove them during the spay or neuter. Will the clinic remove them? Many low cost clinics won't. If Brady has to have them removed separately by his regular vet, it will end up costing you more in the long run plus Brady will have to undergo a second anesthesia.

I hope you don't mind me asking but why not? (see bolded) I didn't give pain meds after the second day. But that was after learning they made Kaji hyper and uncontrollable. I thought he would hurt himself if he carried on the way he did. After I stopped giving the pain meds, he was very calm.

oh, and to stay on subject. Another vote pro pre-op blood work. It just gives us piece of mind.


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