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south 12-29-2010 06:53 AM

Any safe treats at all for pancreatitis dog?
 
Can anyone recommend a safe num-num for my girl? After 2 very bad cases of pancreatitis, she has eaten nothing but ID for over 6 months now, afraid to give her anything else, but when we come back from a walk, she still looks up at me expecting her treat, and I have nothing to give her except a kiss..

Thanks for any thoughts!

ArmaniMan 12-29-2010 06:54 AM

Maybe you could PM member barney107 if she doesnt see this- she will probably have some good tips.

Jinger 12-29-2010 07:16 AM

We have a pancreatitis dog (not our yorkie) and we just give her kibbles of her vet-prescribed dog food as treats. She thinks it's marvelous (as long as it's not one of her tummy-hurts days). Good luck!

south 12-29-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinger (Post 3372622)
We have a pancreatitis dog (not our yorkie) and we just give her kibbles of her vet-prescribed dog food as treats. She thinks it's marvelous (as long as it's not one of her tummy-hurts days). Good luck!

Thanks, that's what my vet suggested also. Zoey has those days too. Never really sure whether to expect a kiss or lose some flesh from my nose on those days :-)

south 12-29-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan (Post 3372616)
Maybe you could PM member barney107 if she doesnt see this- she will probably have some good tips.

Thanks, will wait a bit & PM if not.

Ladymom 12-29-2010 08:00 AM

You can make her treats from her canned prescription food. Shake the loaf out of the can, slice it thinly (about 1/4" thick), then bake it in the oven at 350 degrees on a cookie sheet for 30-45 minutes. (I keep checking until the center is set)

107barney 12-29-2010 08:03 AM

I safely feed green beans to Barney who also has pancreatitis. However, green beans are a medium oxalate vegetable and could be contraindicated in dogs who are prone to calcium oxalate stones or crystals (bladder stones or crystals). Since Barney recently had some crystals show up in his urine and he has had a stone in the past, I am not feeding green beans any longer. He likes broccoli too, so I sometimes give him a small broccoli floret. I'm pretty strict with Barney - no bully sticks, no chews, no cookies that I can find in any store or on this website, or anything else. It is just not worth it.

With that being said, there IS one cookie I will give Barney from time to time and it is the ONLY treat I will feed him. I know the owner of the bakery, and she discloses both the minimum and maximum crude fat in her products. The cookies are organic and made with local ingredients. There is not one other product I have seen that discloses maximum fat....they only give you minimums....so it's a guessing game as to how much fat there really is in there.

Anyway here is the cookie I feed Barney - it's an occasional treat - no more than 2-3 cookies PER WEEK. You can order them online, Denise is fantastic. It is called Sadie's Slimmers and the crude fat is maximum 3% (minimum 2%). Barney's diet is 3% fat so this cookie fits his very low fat diet. Many dogs with pancreatitis are on higher fat than Barney but our vet nutritionist believes this is best for Barney. Many Rx foods are around 6% to 8% for pancreatitis and are not appropriate for our dog.

Anyway here is the link to the Dogs in Harmony Bakery and again, it's the Sadie's Slimmers product I feed, and that is the only one Barney can eat. I buy the mini bites. She bakes everything fresh but they can be frozen if you want to store them.
Dogs In Harmony - Organic Dog Treats

valerieam 12-29-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3372666)
You can make her treats from her canned prescription food. Shake the loaf out of the can, slice it thinly (about 1/4" thick), then bake it in the oven at 350 degrees on a cookie sheet for 30-45 minutes. (I keep checking until the center is set)

Thank you for this information. Pippin has IBD and I give him half of his probiotic as a treat. So he doesn't get treats very often. He will love this.

south 12-30-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3372666)
You can make her treats from her canned prescription food. Shake the loaf out of the can, slice it thinly (about 1/4" thick), then bake it in the oven at 350 degrees on a cookie sheet for 30-45 minutes. (I keep checking until the center is set)

Cool, I was wondering how to do it. Thank you!

south 12-30-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3372671)
I safely feed green beans to Barney who also has pancreatitis. However, green beans are a medium oxalate vegetable and could be contraindicated in dogs who are prone to calcium oxalate stones or crystals (bladder stones or crystals). Since Barney recently had some crystals show up in his urine and he has had a stone in the past, I am not feeding green beans any longer. He likes broccoli too, so I sometimes give him a small broccoli floret. I'm pretty strict with Barney - no bully sticks, no chews, no cookies that I can find in any store or on this website, or anything else. It is just not worth it.

With that being said, there IS one cookie I will give Barney from time to time and it is the ONLY treat I will feed him. I know the owner of the bakery, and she discloses both the minimum and maximum crude fat in her products. The cookies are organic and made with local ingredients. There is not one other product I have seen that discloses maximum fat....they only give you minimums....so it's a guessing game as to how much fat there really is in there.

Anyway here is the cookie I feed Barney - it's an occasional treat - no more than 2-3 cookies PER WEEK. You can order them online, Denise is fantastic. It is called Sadie's Slimmers and the crude fat is maximum 3% (minimum 2%). Barney's diet is 3% fat so this cookie fits his very low fat diet. Many dogs with pancreatitis are on higher fat than Barney but our vet nutritionist believes this is best for Barney. Many Rx foods are around 6% to 8% for pancreatitis and are not appropriate for our dog.

Anyway here is the link to the Dogs in Harmony Bakery and again, it's the Sadie's Slimmers product I feed, and that is the only one Barney can eat. I buy the mini bites. She bakes everything fresh but they can be frozen if you want to store them.
Dogs In Harmony - Organic Dog Treats

Awesome! Zoey & I thank you very much! We have been afraid to try anything, will order this asap. Great information.

107barney 12-30-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by south (Post 3373886)
Awesome! Zoey & I thank you very much! We have been afraid to try anything, will order this asap. Great information.


Great - start very slowly with the treats to make sure your Zoey will be ok. Even my Daisy who has so many medical problems can eat this without any issues. But, you should start with only a couple of pieces. If in doubt, get your vet to take a look at the ingredients. Our vet was ok with me trying these with Barney but I was so nervous in the beginning. Anyway, we just ordered some bags too :)

ETA: I forgot to add that I did not risk any treats with Barney until it was about 4 months after he recovered.

south 12-30-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3373995)
Great - start very slowly with the treats to make sure your Zoey will be ok. Even my Daisy who has so many medical problems can eat this without any issues. But, you should start with only a couple of pieces. If in doubt, get your vet to take a look at the ingredients. Our vet was ok with me trying these with Barney but I was so nervous in the beginning. Anyway, we just ordered some bags too :)

ETA: I forgot to add that I did not risk any treats with Barney until it was about 4 months after he recovered.

Thanks! Yes, I have been afraid to give her anything but the ID since her second bout, but it has been over 4 months, going to give it a try.

DvlshAngel985 12-30-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3372671)
I safely feed green beans to Barney who also has pancreatitis. However, green beans are a medium oxalate vegetable and could be contraindicated in dogs who are prone to calcium oxalate stones or crystals (bladder stones or crystals). Since Barney recently had some crystals show up in his urine and he has had a stone in the past, I am not feeding green beans any longer.

Thank you for posting this. If Kaji's recent history is any indicator, I think he might be prone to crystals. I wanted to give him a low fat filler because he seems so hungry after every meal, but I have to keep his weight down due to his LP's. He loves loves loves the white part of the lettuce leaves. I guess I'll stick to that for now. I love watching him sit there and crunch away.

107barney 12-30-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3374186)
Thank you for posting this. If Kaji's recent history is any indicator, I think he might be prone to crystals. I wanted to give him a low fat filler because he seems so hungry after every meal, but I have to keep his weight down due to his LP's. He loves loves loves the white part of the lettuce leaves. I guess I'll stick to that for now. I love watching him sit there and crunch away.

Yes, well Barney had calcium oxalate crystals show up so the vet nutritionist said no more green beans. Carrots and blueberries are also a no-no.

Lettuce is very low oxalate if you stick with iceberg or romaine. Apples and pears are low also.

DvlshAngel985 12-30-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3374210)
Yes, well Barney had calcium oxalate crystals show up so the vet nutritionist said no more green beans. Carrots and blueberries are also a no-no.

Lettuce is very low oxalate if you stick with iceberg or romaine. Apples and pears are low also.

He actually gets both. My dad has a salad with each meal (excluding breakfast) and he has plenty of lettuce whites to share. :) My dad uses romaine exclusively and I eat both iceberg and romaine.


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