Sorry girls but I have a gross question.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Not really a lot of difference in 4 & 8 and 5 & 7 -- so not too weird.
I have heard of the double genders -- hermaphordites. It happens occasionally in humans too and is usually taken care of surgically. Not one of those surgeries often discussed though.

ooooopppps i meant that to be the opposite. it wasn't 4 and 8 it was actually 10 and 2 sorry lol

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

O.k...this is my thread so I can take it off topic if I want...can't I?

Anyway...this is starting to remind me of another thread a while back where someone on here just about got her eye shot out. Anyone remember that one??

Of course you can take it a bit off topic. It's been an interesting/educational/fun thread.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

Oh, I forgot that part...I do give them a few green beans in their supper dish every night. I don't give them frozen though...I cook enough for a few days and they get a few, either warmed up or cold, mixed in with their supper.

The reason we talk of frozen green beans is there is no salt added as in the canned kind. I always thaw the green beans in microwave for about 30 seconds. They are partially cooked before freezing, so dogs don't have a problem digesting them. I don't know about fresh ones, we've had discussions on it, and I'm not sure what was the conclusion as to how long they need to be cooked.

[my2boyz]

That's what I use...the frozen ones...but I cook them first.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

That's what I use...the frozen ones...but I cook them first.

I don't think you have to cook them, if you've ever eaten one thawed, you can see they are completely different than fresh. Some people even give them frozen. I just think if you cook to much, they might lose some of their fiber benefits, but I really don't know.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

I feed grain free food with a maximum 3% fiber. Should I ad more to their food? She's doing well on grain free food...but if that may be making the issue worse I will try something else.

I think the problems like this (too little fiber) and potential kidney problems (from too high %protein) are what keeps me from switching foods. Mine are doing well now, but I keep reading so many switching to grain-free and raw diets.....I just don't want to rock the boat.

Originally Posted by my2boyz

O.k...this is my thread so I can take it off topic if I want...can't I?

Anyway...this is starting to remind me of another thread a while back where someone on here just about got her eye shot out. Anyone remember that one??

Sure you can take it off topic if you want -- anytime my2boys -- I don't remember the thread you mean -- More hints?

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

this particular task isn't really a SEE more or less it's a FEEL

You are right on that. Feeling the gland is all you need. If you cup a tissue in the "area" you can usually catch the discharge and see it all you want after.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

Oh, I forgot that part...I do give them a few green beans in their supper dish every night. I don't give them frozen though...I cook enough for a few days and they get a few, either warmed up or cold, mixed in with their supper.

Oh! I didn't mean that I feed them while frozen... I use boiling water to warm up their food and I boil extra to set the green beans in till they're thawed real well. I don't really like canned bc some chemicals are added sometimes to the lining of the can to help retain color. Frozen I like because they're always at their peak of ripeness and stay that way till I use them. If I use fresh I chop them up real tiny and give them a soak in boiling water for a while.... I figure dogs like to eat grass and a little bit doesn't usually hurt them.... plus mine are on probiotics and digestive enzymes all the time to help keep them in balance... so they can digest anything they eat... whether they want to or not!

[my2boyz]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Sure you can take it off topic if you want -- anytime my2boys -- I don't remember the thread you mean -- More hints?

It may have been in the breeder section...

[kjc]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I think the problems like this (too little fiber) and potential kidney problems (from too high %protein) are what keeps me from switching foods. Mine are doing well now, but I keep reading so many switching to grain-free and raw diets.....I just don't want to rock the boat.

Sure you can take it off topic if you want -- anytime my2boys -- I don't remember the thread you mean -- More hints?

You are right on that. Feeling the gland is all you need. If you cup a tissue in the "area" you can usually catch the discharge and see it all you want after.

I used to believe that older dogs didn't need as much protein, but my guy is doing so much better now than when I had him on the 'Senior diets'. Last check at the vet's his bloodwork was excellent! I'm feeding Life's Abundance which is 26% protein.... highest I've ever fed for any length of time and they're all doing great on it.

With raw diets, I believe you're supposed to rotate from muscle meat, to organs, including the stomach and contents and intestines... which introduces grains at some point.

As for expressing glands, I look while I place my hand, but once I locate the glands and feel I'm in position, my tendency is to look away.... I do use the kleenex stuffed in my hand too to catch the stream/dribble. Plus you can usually smell it if you are successful or not...

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

It may have been in the breeder section...

Hint taken -- I don't think I need to find the thread.

[kjc]

Hey Debra... did you see I posted why your dogs pee at the front door?
I forget which thread it was in...

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by kjc

Hey Debra... did you see I posted why your dogs pee at the front door?
I forget which thread it was in...

No Kathy -- I did not see .... I forgot where I posted that too. I think it is Ben doing it. But he does like in front of the front door -- but only when I am gone. I think he is telling me he should have gotten to go too.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

No Kathy -- I did not see .... I forgot where I posted that too. I think it is Ben doing it. But he does like in front of the front door -- but only when I am gone. I think he is telling me he should have gotten to go too.

Think dog: He's making sure you can find your way home!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by kjc

Think dog: He's making sure you can find your way home!

Haha! Maybe you are right but I would prefer bread crumbs.

[Ellie May]

I used to get kinda worried b/c I'd express Ellie's glands and was never shown how by her vet. Then I'd come here and read that this was not okay. Always have a professional show you. It's too easy to cause damage. So I had a convo with the vet about it. She told me the opposite. There is no special way that a vet or groomer expresses glands. It is not easy to cause damage. She squeezes very hard even when a problem is suspected. So just another opinion. It is not as scary a procedure as what it may sound. As always, that is just the opinion of Ellie's vet, so ask your own if it's okay.

The first time I tried to do it internally though, I felt terrible b/c, ah, my finger is bigger than that area and KY jelly wasn't doing a ton of good. But we both go used to it.