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09-10-2010, 04:00 PM | #1 |
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| Vaccine info. it's that time again. Sadie's coming up for some vaccs. at what age did you guys that titer do so?? the first time they came up for boosters in their first year or after a year or two?? i'm getting her distemper and her rabies done on seperate says so she's rested better...any other advice? |
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09-10-2010, 04:59 PM | #2 |
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| How old is Sadie? I don't agree with once a year vaccines at all. However, if she just turned 1 year old, then she will need another booster. I like Dr. Jean Dodds protocol. Puppy shots are usually at approx. 8 weeks, 12 weeks and 15-16 weeks (DHPP) and then rabies whenever required by law in your state. Then, at one year old, you do one booster (one shot) of DHPP, and then again rabies. My vet told me both these vaccines are good for the next 3yrs, however, I don't know if I will be getting Jackson anymore DHPP for the rest of his life unless absolutely necessary. Rabies is obviously required legally. I guess in 3yrs, I will decide if he gets another DHPP.
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09-11-2010, 04:10 PM | #3 |
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| our vet does DA2PPV and Rabies. i can get her rabies done for a three year but they don't give a three year Distemper vaccine....but i will boost them this year and then titer next year on the Distemper and have the titers as proof of vaccines. i don't want to keep vaccinating, but i do want to be able to take her places with paperwork showing she doesn't need anymore distemper. i'll titer every 2-3 years if they'll let me go that long. just to check it out and boost if it's ever seriously low. thanks Brit!! |
09-11-2010, 05:55 PM | #4 |
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| I've found titers to be a waste of money here. The distemper vaccine wouldn't come in three year (like rabies). It's all the same.
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09-11-2010, 06:05 PM | #5 |
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| Why do you say this? I asked my vet about it this week and she lead me to believe what you just said. She said the cost of titers would be more than the vaccines itself.
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09-11-2010, 09:47 PM | #6 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| Titers are quite a bit more than vaccines. I'd be fine with that if I thought they were giving me valuable information that I could take action with, and in Ellie's case I don't think that's true. They are a good picture of humoral immunity (antibodies of the disease/vaccine), but not cellular immunity (what is going on at the cellular immunity after a vaccine is given). So just because the titer is low, that doesn't mean that the pup is open to the disease because we don't know what is going on at the cellular level. Ellie's distemper titer is always lower. Booster it once and it went right down the next year. So we thought about vaccinating every other year, but I know modified live viruses do not need to be given this often. So I did not want to do that. We stopped entirely because her vet and I are fairly confident that she is protected for life. It is so variable by vet. One really good use for titers is to do it a few weeks after vaccinating to see what the body did with the vaccine. Anyway, a high titer is good. A low titer doesn't mean much. Much better than vaccinating annually, but if they keep coming back low, it may make your vet feel like they have to keep vaccinated when that may not be the case.
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09-11-2010, 09:49 PM | #7 |
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| Titers do not always show that immunity has been conferred so you end up not knowing. Yes the price of titers exceeds the cost of vaccines.
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09-12-2010, 05:13 AM | #8 |
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| Thank you both.
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09-12-2010, 06:11 PM | #9 | |
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Titers show humoral immunity, but not cellular. A dog can have a positive titer (humoral imm), but NOT have cellular immunity (therefore, they could still be vulnerable to the disease). On the same note, a dog can have a negative titer (no humoral imm via titer), but have cellular immunity (therefore, considered able to provide cellular resistance to the disease). So, I agree w/ Crystal...titers don't tell you a whole lot. Sometimes, they can be useful in strays - especially if you're concerned about overvaccinating a vulnerable stray. But again, they only confirm limited info in terms of actual immunity.
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