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BonBon 05-13-2010 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3125930)
See NB's response in post 10 of the thread you started in March. They had a different response from them in post 29.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ght=ethoxyquin
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Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 3127105)
I agree with you Ellie.
If a product works for you and your pup is healthy eating it and it's
a good quality food, why would you care what anyone say's.
NB has stated and another thread has the letter from NB, that it DOES NOT
have Exoythcoin in their food, fish products yes(due to government regulations) but not the regular foods.
Why some keep saying yes is beyond me.
I think some of the confusion comes from NB's response like the one in post 29 of the thread I linked earlier. In it, they acknowledge using E and just say the amount depends on the variety - they never say it's ONLY used in certain foods.

Natural Balance's response

All our products come from the human food chain and are therefore in compliance with the FDA/USDA regulations. The safe levels for pet foods established by the governing agencies is at 150 ppm. We have tested our products for ethoxyquin levels. Ethoyquin in Natural Balance products are dependent on the particular variety and range at less than 5ppm. These amounts are much lower than the safe level established by the governing agencies for pet foods. Have a great day!

Your post # 10 in this thread cleared it up for me when their first sentence limited the use of E to foods containing fish products. I was very confused at first - I thought their responses conflicted each other. I had to read them several times before I saw the difference.

As I said before, I think NB is a good food so I was glad to finally figure that one out.

Ellie May 05-13-2010 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3127116)
I think some of the confusion comes from NB's response like the one in post 29 of the thread I linked earlier. In it, they acknowledge using E and just say the amount depends on the variety - they never say it's ONLY used in certain foods.

Natural Balance's response

All our products come from the human food chain and are therefore in compliance with the FDA/USDA regulations. The safe levels for pet foods established by the governing agencies is at 150 ppm. We have tested our products for ethoxyquin levels. Ethoyquin in Natural Balance products are dependent on the particular variety and range at less than 5ppm. These amounts are much lower than the safe level established by the governing agencies for pet foods. Have a great day!

Your post # 10 in this thread cleared it up for me when their first sentence limited the use of E to foods containing fish products. I was very confused at first - I thought their responses conflicted each other. I had to read them several times before I saw the difference.

As I said before, I think NB is a good food so I was glad to finally figure that one out.
But doesn't one company say that it is required for fish and another say not true? I just lol at all of it.

jp4m2 05-13-2010 10:50 AM
I’ll correct myself…It all depend on the type you use, if it has fish or salmon meal in it then it does……If it has no fish meal or salmon meal then it does not…….

Does contain ethoxyquin:
Natural Balance Ultra-Premium Dry Food
Sweet Potato and Fish Formula for Dogs Dry
Reduced Calorie Formula for Dogs Dry
A.P.M. Ultra Active Formula for Dogs Dry

Canned:
Fish & Sweet Potato Formula for Dogs Canned


Does Not:
Natural Balance Organic Formulas Dog Food Dry
Lamb Meal and Brown Rice Formula for Dogs Dry
Sweet Potato and Venison Formula for Dogs Dry
Potato and Duck Formula for Dogs Dry
Vegetarian Formula for Dogs Dry

Canned:
Chicken Formula for Dogs Canned
Liver Formula for Dogs Canned
Beef Formula for Dogs Canned
Lamb Formula for Dogs Canned
Duck and Potato Formula for Dogs Canned
Venison and Sweet Potato Formula for Dogs Canned
Eatables Irish Stew for Dogs Canned
Eatables Chinese Take Out with Sauce for Dogs Canned

The lining of the dog food can (13 oz.) contains BPA (a controversial element in plastic linked to cancer and other illnesses).


This is why the confusion or conflicting opinions.......So if you pick a type without fish or salmon meal as an ingredient then your fine.....:)

BonBon 05-13-2010 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3127121)
But doesn't one company say that it is required for fish and another say not true? I just lol at all of it.
That's the way I've read it. Nature's Variety for example says neither they nor their suppliers use E but I forget why they say they can do that - I'll try to find the email I got from them. Other companies say that the government requires them to use E. ???? :confused:

ARCHIE 05-13-2010 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3127116)
I think some of the confusion comes from NB's response like the one in post 29 of the thread I linked earlier. In it, they acknowledge using E and just say the amount depends on the variety - they never say it's ONLY used in certain foods.

Natural Balance's response

All our products come from the human food chain and are therefore in compliance with the FDA/USDA regulations. The safe levels for pet foods established by the governing agencies is at 150 ppm. We have tested our products for ethoxyquin levels. Ethoyquin in Natural Balance products are dependent on the particular variety and range at less than 5ppm. These amounts are much lower than the safe level established by the governing agencies for pet foods. Have a great day!

Your post # 10 in this thread cleared it up for me when their first sentence limited the use of E to foods containing fish products. I was very confused at first - I thought their responses conflicted each other. I had to read them several times before I saw the difference.

As I said before, I think NB is a good food so I was glad to finally figure that one out.

Thanks Bonny for finding that. I started too but got busy at work.
I remembered that thread very clear but I was surprised to see who
started it:confused: Why again?

BonBon 05-13-2010 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spiritwings1202 (Post 3125941)
That is funny I forgot I did this!! lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 3127132)
Thanks Bonny for finding that. I started too but got busy at work.
I remembered that thread very clear but I was surprised to see who
started it:confused: Why again?
She's like me. The ole memory's not the best anymore. :)

ARCHIE 05-13-2010 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3127139)
She's like me. The ole memory's not the best anymore. :)
LOL I can certainly relate to that as well:rolleyes:

jp4m2 05-13-2010 11:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiritwings1202 (Post 3125918)
I was wondering if dick van pattens natural balance dog food contains Ethoxyquin The vet suggested this dog food for Pixie and I wanted to know if anyone else feeds it to their dogs and if it is a good quality dog food.
I forgot to add the link on ethoxyquin...

ETHOXYQUIN, CARCINOGENIC,TOXIC FOOD PRESERVATIVE in Pet Foods: A Letter to the FDA

ARCHIE 05-13-2010 11:37 AM
That was a very potent article and I enjoyed reading it.
I totally agree with her arguments over E.

50yrs ago this country was healthy. Now so many are sick and on
prescription drugs. Cancer is rampant. I truly believe the pesticides
that the government is jamming down our throats, threw food,
water and air is making us sick. I hope we can get some kind of
control before it's too late.
Progress is not necessary a plus.

spiritwings1202 05-14-2010 07:34 AM
I talked to natural balance on the phone yesterday and they told me their food does NOT contain Exthoxyquin. They said that they perserve the fish meal with a natural peservative that contains vitamin E. They gave me the name but I forgot what it was bc I was hanging on the words No Exthoxyquin! I was just very glad that they said they did not use that to preserve their food.

I honestly think that if people are worried about the Ethoxyquin than just don't buy food that contains fish meal bc that is what the Ethoxyquin is used for from what I understand.

ltret0294 05-14-2010 03:52 PM
I do not know if any YTers subscribe to the website linked below but there are a couple of articles re: ethoxyquin and other substances put into our pet foods. Just for info. Like YT it is basically a free site.

Pet Food Ingredients - Page 1


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