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Anyone using First Shield Trio from Banfield for flea and tick? Anyone else using the new stuff Banfield is offering called First Shield Trio? It has dinotefuran, pyriproxyfen, and permethrin in it! Please let me know if you use it, have heard of it, have good or bad experiences with it. Thanks, Rachel |
still need help on this....Sadie threw up last night and i'm wondering if anyone else had this reaction or knows anything about this medicine |
we've only used frontline for our pets and i've never heard of this one. hopefully someone else can help! |
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I would be very careful at Banfield. Not only do they recommend things that aren't necessary (ie, lepto, corona etc) - but they develop things under there own brands and then try to sell it to you. I don't treat for fleas here, but if I were you - I'd listen to those who do treat for it and have researched it. :) |
FirstShield Trio I don't have a yorkie, but I did use the Firstshield on my small dog. I don't normally take the time to post a response but I felt this very necessary. I have used this product once a couple of weeks ago and again tonight. I am almost at the point of taking my dogs to the emergency vet, I don't remember them having this reaction the first time. They are acting lathargic and dont want to move. I will never use this product again and would strongly recomment no one else either. |
If you feel your dog is not tolerating the medication you apply to their backs, give them a good bath using Dawn dishwashing liquid. That is the first thing they do here when you take your dog in with a reaction to topical flea preparations. Dawn helps remove some of the product, hopefully helping to reduce the reaction. Then get the dog to the vet. |
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I don't have anything on the specific product your using.......All I have is some info on Permethrin and pyriproxyfen....... Permethrin is a neurotoxin insecticide.Permethrins are synthetic pyrethroids that are more stable and last longer. It works by disrupting the nervous system of insects, killing by contact or ingestion. The EPA classifies it as a carcinogen ,it causes lung cancer and liver tumors in mice. Permethrin is indicated as a possible carcinogen by the EPA, causing liver enlargement and cancers in lab. mammals. It is embryotoxic in rabbits, and causes liver damage in mice. "Pyrethroid toxicity targets nerve and muscle cells in pets, according to a study published in The Veterinary Journal in June 2008. The study found that dermal exposure by application to the skin or coat is the most common route of toxic exposure, potentially causing hyperexcitability, tremors, profuse salivation, and seizures. The seizures can result in brain damage or, less frequently, death. The EPA approved the company's pyrethroid spot on treatments just as it has approved all spot on treatments, but the agency has a history of approving pet products in the past only to pull them from the market later Carcinogen: liver and lung tumors Organ damage: kidney enlargement, changes in the lung Neurotoxin: tremors, incoordination, elevated body temp. increased agressive behavior, learning disruption Reproductive: fertility affected Autoimmune: bone marow changes in lab. animals But they are also linked to thousands of reported pet poisonings, and they have stirred the ire of pet owners, the concern of veterinarians, and the attention of regulatory agencies. At least 1,600 pet deaths related to spot on treatments with pyrethroids were reported to the EPA over the last five years, according to an analysis of EPA pesticide incident exposure data by the Center for Public Integrity. That is about double the number of reported fatalities tied to similar treatments without pyrethroids, such as Frontline and Advantage -- although these products also have critics. Pyrethroid spot ons also account for more than half of "major" pesticide pet reactions reported to EPA over the last five years -- that is, those incidents involving serious medical reactions such as brain damage, heart attacks, and violent seizures. In contrast, non-pyrethroid spot on treatments accounted for only about 6 percent of all major incidents. Pyriproxyfen An active: sterilizer Reproductive:reduced weight gain, toxicity to pups Long term studies, needed to understand the chronic effects of the pesticides, are few and far between by comparison. Chronic diseases such as cancer,immune suppression, developmental or reproductive damage and DNA damage can take months or years to manifest. The cumulative effect and potential damage from continued use of one specific pesticide product or multiple products over a dog's lifetime is unknown. Cumulative effects of chemicals in products are not required to be tested by the EPA before the product is made commercially available. |
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I do not have a yorkie, and my small dog seems to have been unaffected buy the first shield. But my 6 month old spaniel who is already 48 pounds has been throwing up all night, has diarrhea, horrible gas, and is very lethargic. I want to thank you for all the posts about your side effects and the suggestion about the dish soap. The emergency vet also suggested bathing him and if he is still lethargic in a few hrs they want us to come in. I will never use this flea med again, we're going back to advantix next month. I just wanted to make sure anyone searching for this would know that this is a problem for all sized dogs and to stay away from this stuff. |
I have a chihuahua. I googled can a dog throw up from using first shield and found this. First of all, I am glad to know I am not the only one. I called Banfield and they said they have never heard of vomiting from it. I don't want to take him in, and pay lots of money. This isn't the first time though. This is his first time using first shield. But previously, he was using vectra. They said that first shield is a branch from vectra. My dog threw up every single time I gave him vectra too. I thought it was because he was consuming it though. I didn't know how to put it on. I was putting it too low, and I would catch him turning his head around to lick it off. This time I put first shield on his head, behind his ears and around his collar. There is no way he was able to lick it, and he is still throwing up from it. It has to be some sort of side effect. I don't know of anything else to try. What else could I use on him? I want something that protects from fleas and ticks. He is also shaking a lot. It seems like he is trying to shake his head until it comes off or something. Someone please tell me what to do. He kept me up all night throwing up.:( |
Is he shaking to get it off or shivering? With those kinds of symptoms, he may have to be seen. :( Banfield is just not a great place. |
I don't think he is shivering. Even with vectra, he used to roll around on his back. But he can't do that on his head. |
I have used first shield trio for the first time on Friday since banfield recommended it. I haven't seen any problems in my yorkie but will post later with result of how well he took it or if he has had a problem with it... |
I've never used it let alone heard of it. But it has the ingredient permethrin which is suppose to be pulled off the market because it is so toxic. It is a form of the same ingredient Hartz uses in their product that has been known to harm so many. I would get her off the medicine right away and as suggested bath her with the dawn soap. She may need treatment from the vet to help if it continues. Frontline and Advantage are the safest flea meds to use. I hope she is feeling better soon!! |
Apparently Banfield's First Shield is Vectra 3D which is made by Hartz. Scroll down a couple of paragraphs and look under Consumer Alert: Adverse Reactions from Flea Control Products - 2010-02 |
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To the OP, unfortunately with my first dog I was suckered into Banfield and used First Sheild Trio on Max. It didn't work, I was still finding ticks on him. |
used it, no problems i found this post searching for information about FST. thought i would offer my experience after getting it from Banfield and applying it to my dog. my dog had no problem with it so far in the last 16 hours (applied at dinner time last night, it's now next day morning). she's not a yorkie, though. she's a 6 month old german shepherd puppy (~50 lbs) so i know it's not totally on topic, but in case its helpful. one thought i had seeing the reactions y'all posted is that maybe you got some of the fst on your hands and that got into your dogs mouth? ingesting it could cause problems like vomiting, i think. also, make sure you got the right dosage and applied it correctly. hope this helps. |
I use K9 Advantix, which I know has permethrin in it, but now I'm a little concerned. I used to use Frontline Plus but last summer, he got sooo many ticks on it and even got Lymes disease. K9 Advantix is the only thing that has worked for us to keep the ticks, fleas and mosquitoes away from him... should I give Frontline another try? I just really wanna keep ticks off him, but I also don't wanna hurt him by giving him medicine with permethrin in it! |
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One thing permethrin can do is make dogs feel like something is crawling on them. If he isn't irritated after application, obv.. that isn't a problem. Since he is doing well on it, I'd try not to worry (haha). I just prefer to recommend other products before this one. |
I used First Shield and I haven't seen anything wrong or out of the ordinary with Magnus. *shrug* I don't know what to say, I guess it really affects different depending on the dog. But I am going to change to something else. Still deciding on which to go with though. |
Made by Hartz and sold exclusively by Banfield just doesn't sit well with me. For toy breeds, I still prefer tried and true Advantage and Frontline. They've both been around for years. |
Banfield... I have used Banfield First Shield Trio when i first got my yorkie, Sully. He didnt have a reaction to it. I did find live ticks on him when he was on the treatment, which proves the treatment pointless. I dont recommend going to Banfield at all. This is my first dog and i felt like they took advantage of that fact. They kept trying to sell me overpriced medications/ supplements he didnt need. |
I use Comfortis, a pill, for the 3 younger pups and Sentinel for Zipp. Personally, if any of my pup(s) were having what appeared to be a reaction to a med, I would treat to relieve the distress then look at an alternative to that particular med. Annie did not do Frontline well and it really did not work on Zack and Zeke. My pups are outside a lot and living in FL fleas and any parasite that they may carry are too common so I go the chemical route altho' not my preference. If you want to go a more natural route try a search on YT for natural flea, tick worm approaches. There is a YT member who references a very good website. PM me if you would like their name or the website. |
Hello my name is corrinna and im using first shild trio on my rat terrier and it seems to be working. I havent had a problem with fleas or anything. I also havent had a problem with side effects. |
First Shield Trio I don't have a Yorkie (but I wanted one!), but I have a little Pomeranian named Becky. We recently rescued Becky about a week ago (first dog). I was already doing research on preventatives, when I found fleas on her. That next day, because we still didn't have pet insurance, we went to Banfield (she needed an initial visit to the vet anyway). When it came time to discuss a treatment and preventative I INSISTED on either Comfortis or Sentry Natural Defense (Natural Defense uses certain herbal oils), and I already did research the previous night, but the vet was acting like he was denying me Comfortis and the Natural Defense (Natural Defense is an OTC med, and the vet admitted that he has no background on natural products), so he INSISTED on FirstShield Trio, and I had to give in after a 5-minute argument. Becky just got treated last night, but I knew that there was something sketchy about this medication. I'm now just shaking and pacing in worry that a reaction could have been present. I never had trusted Banfield. |
Now I'm nervous I went to Banfield this evening to purchase Comfortis since it was on my from work. I called prior to going and was told they only need Noah's vet information in order to confirm he was in good health. When I got there, it was a different story. I was told I needed to bring him in so the vet could examine hime. I explained he already has a vet and I ride the bus. All of a sudden it became company policy that the vet would need to see him first. I was desperate to get some type of treatment for Noah because the fleas here in Florida are awful. She suggested First Shield Trio. She claimed it was better than K9 Advantix and Frontline. I had no idea about what it was made of until I got home and seached this web site. So far Noah is not having any reactions. I wish I knew of a natural flea preventative that works. |
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I also use K9 Advantix. I used Frontline which did nothing for us at all. Even my vet quit selling it. K9 Advantix works for both fleas and ticks. I don't like that it has permethrin in it either but ticks are so bad in Arkansas I am afraid she would get something from them. Just like yours did with the Lymes disease. They carry so many different diseases. My son was bit by a tick and ended up getting one of the diseases. Thankfully we caught it early and it was treatable. As bad as I hate to say this, I would stick with k9 Advantix. |
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