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Hanyougirlie1 04-05-2009 01:29 PM
Trying to decide between foods!
 
Hi, I'm about to get a yorkie puppy in about 4 weeks and am researching foods. So far i am trying to decide between Eukanuba puppy food for small breeds, or Royal Canin mini puppy 33 food.
Does anyone have an opinion as to which one would be better? Advice would be greatly appriciated

julietimothy 04-05-2009 02:03 PM
what I like>>
 
I amnot sure on those two but I have start using Dr. Foster and Smith and love it.

MaddiesMommie 04-05-2009 02:04 PM
:D Boy have you come to the right place...funny thing is everyone has a different opinion:p But that is what makes YT so much fun and so great! A few sites to help you get started on what will probably be a long road, if your Yorkie is like most...picky:rolleyes: are:
THE DOG FOOD PROJECT The Dog Food Project - Identifying better products and Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble

I have no experience with Eukanuba but did use RC for Yorkies for about three months. My girl liked it but she started scratching a lot and licking her paws, signs of food alergies. So now I am using California Natural limited ingredient. Many, Vivian this is you, have talked me into feeding raw as well. I will start Maddie on this in a few days in the evenings, and keep kibble in the morning.
GOOD LUCK!!

viviansnickers 04-05-2009 02:12 PM
Amanda is right...both those foods have some suspicious ingredients in them which an cause allergies and itching and are not top notch foods.

Some top quality foods include: Wellness, Innova (my personal favorite, The Healthiest Pet Foods in the World – Natural & Organic Pet Food – Natura Pet Products), Natural Balance, Solid Gold, Artemis, Fromm, Nature's Variety, Blue Buffalo.

AMANDA!!!! YAYYYYYYYY for RAW! Thanks for the shout out girl!!!

Good luck to you, and great job asking questions, we have all learned so much fromt his site and remember, every pup is different, feed what YOU feel is best for your pup!! Smiles!!!!

TishaMoon 04-05-2009 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by viviansnickers (Post 2562878)
Amanda is right...both those foods have some suspicious ingredients in them which an cause allergies and itching and are not top notch foods.
That is very interesting. I've been feeding my baby Eukanuba. I knew it's not the best food but it's what the breeder fed so I have a bag of it to go through...but Bailey has been scratching a lot and I know she doesn't have fleas. I was thinking it's dry skin, but now I'm wondering if she's allergic to the food! :eek:

amandawash 04-05-2009 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hanyougirlie1 (Post 2562815)
Hi, I'm about to get a yorkie puppy in about 4 weeks and am researching foods. So far i am trying to decide between Eukanuba puppy food for small breeds, or Royal Canin mini puppy 33 food.
Does anyone have an opinion as to which one would be better? Advice would be greatly appriciated
Yay! Congrats on your new puppy!! You are in a great position right now, with a few weeks to go you can start researching what way you want to go with your little girl.

I would advise to check out different brands of puppy food and start looking into ingredients and the product's nutritional analysis.

*I* personally would not choose either food, but so long as you are informed and feel it's the best decision for *you* it's a great choice. Good luck on your new little girl!!

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Originally Posted by TishaMoon (Post 2563121)
That is very interesting. I've been feeding my baby Eukanuba. I knew it's not the best food but it's what the breeder fed so I have a bag of it to go through...but Bailey has been scratching a lot and I know she doesn't have fleas. I was thinking it's dry skin, but now I'm wondering if she's allergic to the food! :eek:
As your baby is still a puppy, it is extremely very UNlikely he's suffering from food allergies. It takes quite a while to develop allergies to certain ingredients, and quite honestly, food allergies are far less common than environmental allergies.

I would assume there is something irritating your kiddo. Dust, pollen, fleas, detergents, shampoos, etc can all be culprits. Good luck!

TishaMoon 04-05-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by amandawash (Post 2563289)

As your baby is still a puppy, it is extremely very UNlikely he's suffering from food allergies. It takes quite a while to develop allergies to certain ingredients, and quite honestly, food allergies are far less common than environmental allergies.

I would assume there is something irritating your kiddo. Dust, pollen, fleas, detergents, shampoos, etc can all be culprits. Good luck!
Thanks! She had a little rash on her belly when I got her from the breeder, so the breeder gave me some medicated shampoo. I wonder if that is too harsh for her skin?

amandawash 04-05-2009 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TishaMoon (Post 2563300)
Thanks! She had a little rash on her belly when I got her from the breeder, so the breeder gave me some medicated shampoo. I wonder if that is too harsh for her skin?
Bingo. I would bet the cookies I just made that the shampoo is the culprit :p

Ryder has sensitive skin and I use a fatty acid soap/detergent-free shampoo that really does well for him.

If she has gotten over the rash, I would chuch that shampoo. Look for something soap-free and gentle, also avoid harsh fragrances. :) Good luck!

TishaMoon 04-05-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by amandawash (Post 2563308)
Bingo. I would bet the cookies I just made that the shampoo is the culprit :p

Ryder has sensitive skin and I use a fatty acid soap/detergent-free shampoo that really does well for him.

If she has gotten over the rash, I would chuch that shampoo. Look for something soap-free and gentle, also avoid harsh fragrances. :) Good luck!
(Sorry to carry on this conversation in the OP's thread about food)

Thanks. She still has the little rash. Maybe I can just use that shampoo for her belly and use something more gentle for the rest of her.

veggienut 04-05-2009 07:20 PM
Everyone is going to have a different opinion, as someone mentioned. Try whatever food and see how it goes. This is what I did, but in time my Yorkie got picky and would sniff and literally walk away. I went thru 8+ foods...from "Feeder's Supply" (local pet store) to "Kroger's (grocery), and then to "Petsmart" where I found "Royal Canine". He loves this food and has stuck with it ever since. It won't hurt to switch if you find you puppy doesn't like a food. You just have to slowly switch him otherwise, they say a dog could have stomach problems. Good Luck in your choice

Hanyougirlie1 04-05-2009 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2563392)
Everyone is going to have a different opinion, as someone mentioned. Try whatever food and see how it goes. This is what I did, but in time my Yorkie got picky and would sniff and literally walk away. I went thru 8+ foods...from "Feeder's Supply" (local pet store) to "Kroger's (grocery), and then to "Petsmart" where I found "Royal Canine". He loves this food and has stuck with it ever since. It won't hurt to switch if you find you puppy doesn't like a food. You just have to slowly switch him otherwise, they say a dog could have stomach problems. Good Luck in your choice
so, you feed royal canin? how old is your yorkie and what type of the food do you feed him?

Hanyougirlie1 04-05-2009 09:41 PM
What about Natures recipe? anyone have any opinions on that one?

veggienut 04-06-2009 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hanyougirlie1 (Post 2563529)
so, you feed royal canin? how old is your yorkie and what type of the food do you feed him?
Maxwell, is 1.5+ years old. He's on "Royal Canine" for Yorkshire Terrier.

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2563876)
Maxwell, is 1.5+ years old. He's on "Royal Canine" for Yorkshire Terrier.
and he likes it and everything?
Im just trying to get some sort of idea of how other dogs like it. maybe my girl will like it too when i get her :p

Ellie May 04-06-2009 07:54 AM
I wouldn't choose either but if I had to pick one it would be RC.
If I fed RC it may not be the one designed for Yorkies.
Ellie was on an RC prescription diet for a few days and she had an obvious intolerance to it.

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 07:59 AM
Now im thinking between Natures recipe, Wellness, or Natural Balance. still reading up on them. Any of those sound like they would be good ones?

veggienut 04-06-2009 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hanyougirlie1 (Post 2563884)
and he likes it and everything?
Im just trying to get some sort of idea of how other dogs like it. maybe my girl will like it too when i get her :p


Food Maxwell’s been on:
• Diamond: from breeder
• Professional Brand from Feeder's Supply (local pet shop;sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)
• Iam’s puppy & active puppy (from the Kroger's grocery; ate little to none; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• (In-between mixed different wet food with dry Iam’s puppy) (ate little to none; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• Merrick’s dry & wet (ate little to none & even choked on the wet type; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• Beneful mixed with Pedigree Butcher Select (wet) (ate little to none; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• Purina 1 (would not eat at all & had to take back to Kroger's)
• Royal Canine (eats without any problems)

I was left with numerous of bags of food and eventually threw them out. He doesn't do that with "Royal Canine". But all dogs are different. Mine is picky and I am told a lot of these Yorkies are picky. You may have to experience first hand to what I am talking about. "Royal Canine" isn't cheap, nor is having a dog of any type.

viviansnickers 04-06-2009 08:09 AM
I would definitely choose Wellness or Natural Balance. Wellness would be my 1st choice as I feel it has more meat in it's ingredients. I could be wrong but I know in the LID diets, meat is not the 1st ingredient. I would choose Wellness for Small Breeds.

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by veggienut (Post 2563914)
Food Maxwell’s been on:
• Diamond: from breeder
• Professional Brand from Feeder's Supply (local pet shop;sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)
• Iam’s puppy & active puppy (from the Kroger's grocery; ate little to none; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• (In-between mixed different wet food with dry Iam’s puppy) (ate little to none; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• Merrick’s dry & wet (ate little to none & even choked on the wet type; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• Beneful mixed with Pedigree Butcher Select (wet) (ate little to none; even sniffed and walked away or just would avoid)

• Purina 1 (would not eat at all & had to take back to Kroger's)
• Royal Canine (eats without any problems)

I was left with numerous of bags of food and eventually threw them out. He doesn't do that with "Royal Canine". But all dogs are different. Mine is picky and I am told a lot of these Yorkies are picky. You may have to experience first hand to what I am talking about. "Royal Canine" isn't cheap, nor is having a dog of any type.
Yeah, I understand. Im just trying to get idea's on what foods would be good or preferred by other yorkie owners. I've never had one before so im trying to learn as much as i possibly can before she comes home in about 4 weeks.

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by viviansnickers (Post 2563918)
I would definitely choose Wellness or Natural Balance. Wellness would be my 1st choice as I feel it has more meat in it's ingredients. I could be wrong but I know in the LID diets, meat is not the 1st ingredient. I would choose Wellness for Small Breeds.
I was considering the wellness my first choice. But if she is only going to be about 8 weeks old when i get her, shouldn't i start her on some sort of puppy food?

amandawash 04-06-2009 08:14 AM
For puppy food, I really, really like Wellness Puppy and Innova Puppy. I am not familiar with Nature's Recipe, and feel that the Natural Balance foods are a bit low in fat and protein for a growing pup. I do not like *super* high protein for puppies, but I beleive they need a moderate amount.

You can e-mail Wellness and request a sample. Be prepared for your puppy to possibly not be a great eater when you first bring her home. I would request a small baggie of whatever food the breeder has been using, and feed her strictly that for the first week. She'll be stressed enough. Then, after a week or so, start gradually introducing her to whatever you decide to feed.

The important thing is to not run out to the store and purchase a new food if your puppy isn't interested in what you have chosen, or everytime she turns her nose up. If you constantly switch things up, you can create huge problems down the road with a super picky puppy, which is NO FUN!!

We used a tiny bit of canned (Wellness) added to Ranger's puppy food when we first picked him up, which did the trick. I also like adding cottage cheese or yogurt to entice them to eat.

viviansnickers 04-06-2009 08:14 AM
Yes...definitely, Wellness Just for Puppy....a great choice!!

viviansnickers 04-06-2009 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by amandawash (Post 2563928)
For puppy food, I really, really like Wellness Puppy and Innova Puppy. I am not familiar with Nature's Recipe, and feel that the Natural Balance foods are a bit low in fat and protein for a growing pup. I do not like *super* high protein for puppies, but I beleive they need a moderate amount.

You can e-mail Wellness and request a sample. Be prepared for your puppy to possibly not be a great eater when you first bring her home. I would request a small baggie of whatever food the breeder has been using, and feed her strictly that for the first week. She'll be stressed enough. Then, after a week or so, start gradually introducing her to whatever you decide to feed.

The important thing is to not run out to the store and purchase a new food if your puppy isn't interested in what you have chosen, or everytime she turns her nose up. If you constantly switch things up, you can create huge problems down the road with a super picky puppy, which is NO FUN!!

We used a tiny bit of canned (Wellness) added to Ranger's puppy food when we first picked him up, which did the trick. I also like adding cottage cheese or yogurt to entice them to eat.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thum bup::thumbup:Great post!!!!

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by amandawash (Post 2563928)
For puppy food, I really, really like Wellness Puppy and Innova Puppy. I am not familiar with Nature's Recipe, and feel that the Natural Balance foods are a bit low in fat and protein for a growing pup. I do not like *super* high protein for puppies, but I beleive they need a moderate amount.

You can e-mail Wellness and request a sample. Be prepared for your puppy to possibly not be a great eater when you first bring her home. I would request a small baggie of whatever food the breeder has been using, and feed her strictly that for the first week. She'll be stressed enough. Then, after a week or so, start gradually introducing her to whatever you decide to feed.

The important thing is to not run out to the store and purchase a new food if your puppy isn't interested in what you have chosen, or everytime she turns her nose up. If you constantly switch things up, you can create huge problems down the road with a super picky puppy, which is NO FUN!!

We used a tiny bit of canned (Wellness) added to Ranger's puppy food when we first picked him up, which did the trick. I also like adding cottage cheese or yogurt to entice them to eat.
:D That is really great adivce! I will have to email them or somthing!
So you just added a little bit of wet food to the mixture?

amandawash 04-06-2009 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hanyougirlie1 (Post 2563924)
I was considering the wellness my first choice. But if she is only going to be about 8 weeks old when i get her, shouldn't i start her on some sort of puppy food?
Yup, she needs a puppy food. Another thing to consider (don't get mad at me here) is that 8 weeks for a yorkie is very young to bring her home. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America finds it unethical for a breeder to send a yorkie home under 12 weeks of age. Even though the puppy is usually weaned at that time, they are soooo tiny, the risk of hypoglycemia (and often death) are HUGE. If you could at least wait another two weeks, you would be bringing home a much healthier, stable and better socialized puppy.

Just something to consider, but you really should research all you can about small breed puppies and how scary they can be at such a young age.

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by viviansnickers (Post 2563929)
Yes...definitely, Wellness Just for Puppy....a great choice!!
:D Thanks so much for all your suggestions and help! I greatly appreciate it!

phfgkl 04-06-2009 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hanyougirlie1 (Post 2563924)
I was considering the wellness my first choice. But if she is only going to be about 8 weeks old when i get her, shouldn't i start her on some sort of puppy food?
First of all, what does the breeder have the puppy on? You don't want to bring her home and just switch foods, she may be on a good food now. My breeder uses purina pro plan and has alwyas had very good results with that. I actually just took my dogs off of taste of the wild(it's a 6 star food) as they have all been itching, and the yorkie has a rash, infected ears and looks terrible, so not always are the "best" foods the best if you know what I mean. The main thing is for a meat to be the first ingredient in the food you pick. I was trying to stay away from corn, but, after talking to my vet(she's only 25 and has done a lot of research on allergies), she has said that more dogs are actually allergic to the chicken, turkey, beef, etc. So, I just switched my little ones over to science diet natures variety lamb and brown rice. Well, should say I'm in the switching stage still since we just started it today. Good luck on whatever you decide. Can't wait to see your baby

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by amandawash (Post 2563934)
Yup, she needs a puppy food. Another thing to consider (don't get mad at me here) is that 8 weeks for a yorkie is very young to bring her home. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America finds it unethical for a breeder to send a yorkie home under 12 weeks of age. Even though the puppy is usually weaned at that time, they are soooo tiny, the risk of hypoglycemia (and often death) are HUGE. If you could at least wait another two weeks, you would be bringing home a much healthier, stable and better socialized puppy.

Just something to consider, but you really should research all you can about small breed puppies and how scary they can be at such a young age.
I know this. And my husband and i are going to be talking to our friend to see if she can stay with mama a little longer. I've done ALOT of reading.
I think she should stay with mama a bit longer also.

amandawash 04-06-2009 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hanyougirlie1 (Post 2563940)
I know this. And my husband and i are going to be talking to our friend to see if she can stay with mama a little longer. I've done ALOT of reading.
I think she should stay with mama a bit longer also.
So great. So many people get really offended when you suggest they wait, but it really can prevent a ton of heartbreak.

Can't wait to see pics!! Good luck with your puppy, hope she can stay with momma a few extra weeks :p

Hanyougirlie1 04-06-2009 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2563939)
First of all, what does the breeder have the puppy on? You don't want to bring her home and just switch foods, she may be on a good food now. My breeder uses purina pro plan and has alwyas had very good results with that. I actually just took my dogs off of taste of the wild(it's a 6 star food) as they have all been itching, and the yorkie has a rash, infected ears and looks terrible, so not always are the "best" foods the best if you know what I mean. The main thing is for a meat to be the first ingredient in the food you pick. I was trying to stay away from corn, but, after talking to my vet(she's only 25 and has done a lot of research on allergies), she has said that more dogs are actually allergic to the chicken, turkey, beef, etc. So, I just switched my little ones over to science diet natures variety lamb and brown rice. Well, should say I'm in the switching stage still since we just started it today. Good luck on whatever you decide. Can't wait to see your baby
well when i went over there like... 2 days ago i believe they had them on a purina puppy food. i looked at the ingredients and i think it could be a better food from what i've been reading. i want to try all natural food, so that maybe i can reduce the risk of allergies. I know it cant be helped somtimes if they do get them, but i just want to do what i can to prevent them.


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