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11-16-2008, 01:02 PM | #31 |
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| I found out that Abigail, Ada's yorkie, has LP on her rear knee and she feeds raw. Not sure if it will help LP in any particular fashion, but it doesn't hurt her.
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11-16-2008, 01:11 PM | #32 |
Donating YT 11K Club Member | I mean i was for it, but Teddy & London were getting real sick. They had diarrhea and throwing up everytime i fed it to them, Sophie was fine but since 2 out of 3 were getting sick i stopped it for now and feed their normal food and homecook a little. I plan to try it again later but i have to do it gradually or something. Also it was a lot of work for me cause im a vegetarian and barely have meat in my house, my mom is the only one that eats it.
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11-16-2008, 01:15 PM | #33 | |
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11-16-2008, 01:20 PM | #34 |
Donating YT 11K Club Member | I was feeding them nv raw in the mornings and in the evenings i started them out with just plain raw chicken breast, no bones, no fat just the breast cause thats what i read to do to get their bodies adjusted to it. But after the 2nd day they were getting sick, i just had to stop cause they would throw up like 3 times everyday and diarrhea all over. Its weird but Sophie was completely normal and i guess could handle the change, but i now feed her the kibbles again cause im not gonna feed one of them raw and not the other 2. So i plan to start them again in a couple months after reading more about it. Right now i feed them california natural and dont really have the time.
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11-16-2008, 01:33 PM | #35 |
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| I've been researching for 3 months and I do not see anything wrong in what you fed them. That is strange. Maybe when you start again you could feed them NV raw at 1st, and then from there go to whole raw? I am very interested in this. But by feeding them both kinds at the same time makes you or me unable to tell which was causing the problem, the medallions or the chicken breasts.
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11-16-2008, 01:45 PM | #36 | |
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11-16-2008, 02:13 PM | #37 | |
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xoxox Nita
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11-16-2008, 02:50 PM | #38 |
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| It would be nice to be able to safely feed our domestic pets raw meat, and maybe we can if it's of the wild variety that isn't fed hormones or commercial feed. Chickens and beef bought at the supermarkets and butcher shops are meant to be cooked to kill the salmanella that is picked up during the slaughter and butchering, but sill contain hormones that cannot be cooked out. Dogs and wolves in the wild will eat the stomach of their kill first as it contains vital nutrients from plants and berries, then they eat the organs. If they are not starving, they will bury the carcus and eat a few days later when it is ferminted, not unlike cooking it.
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11-16-2008, 03:11 PM | #39 | |
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Myths About Raw: Do wolves eat stomach contents of prey? Tjmom feeds her dogs supermarket meat and so far I've not heard a peep of them contracting salmonella. Besides, salmonella is also found in kibbles and canned food. I follow the rawfeeding list in yahoo. There are 13.199 members and so far, not a single peep about salmonella. Some buy in supermarkets, some buy from butchers, some gets meat from hunters, trades, roadkill, etc etc. Most common problem is getting the ratio or meat, bone and organ just right, not any kinds of bacterial infections. Wolves bury their prey because they do not want it to go to waste, not to cook it. In fact, burying meat in the ground (in soil) will actually slow down its decomposition. (read this in a text book in college) So logical conclusion here is that they bury their food to keep it as fresh as possible. I do agree about the hormones, that is why it is advised to feed your dogs/cats free range meats, but really, most are going with what they can afford here. But you said it yourself, the hormones do not get cooked out, which is also a contributing factor to obesity in humans. So on this point, what makes the commercial food better than raw?
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11-16-2008, 03:29 PM | #40 |
Lovin' my R & R Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Middleton, Idaho
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| My boys get NV raw medallions. It took Ranger a few days to actually start to eat it, but after he actually ate it the first time he never looked back!!! I feed the Chicken (really chicken and turkey), the lamb and our favorite- the organic chicken. I bought a few bags and separated the day's meals into individual plastic baggies, and put them back in the freezer. That way I can alternate meats and give them variety! We love it!! My tiny, picky boy, talks and dances for his meals, it makes me feel so good!!
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11-16-2008, 03:52 PM | #41 |
My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca.
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| It's already a known fact that wolves eat the stomach contient and organs of their prey. Watch "The man who lives with wolves. That part was just televised. Up until he started studying and living with these wolves, not much was really known about them. I'm not a big fan of feeding anything raw to my dogs except veggies. I've been feeding real food for over 50 years and have never had a dog get sick or have any health problems from it. I think I'll stick with tried and true.
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11-16-2008, 04:00 PM | #42 |
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| "Real food" is subjective here. So is tried and true.
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11-16-2008, 04:47 PM | #43 |
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| 1st let me say I am all for raw feeding. But you will never convince me dogs are 100% carnivorous. It doesn't make sense. I believe what I see with my own eyes. All my dogs will gobble down a carrot the same way I eat chocolate cake!! Try to give a cat a carrot and they won't even look at it. I of course don't think they should be feed like cows all corn and wheat!!! I don't know what to think about the stomach contents thing. On one hand stomach contents are putrid, but one of my dogs will eat poop so I will have to defer to experts on that one. |
11-16-2008, 10:09 PM | #44 | |
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lol 1 of my dogs eats poop too
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11-17-2008, 11:13 AM | #45 |
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| My cat eats oranges and berry's. I would say that just because you chose to eat something doesn't make it needed. My dog eats tin foil if given the option. he's a little crazy. |
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