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hugz4all4 12-02-2008 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2357397)
Yes, and I thought my dog was too important to die for me continue trying to force feed her the "quality foods" when there were better alternatives. No one here is trying to convince anyone else to feed their dogs a low end food IF and WHEN there is a better option. But reality is, that is not always the case and certainly not as easy as it is often portrayed here. That's why I am an advocate of the Research, Educate Yourself and do what is best for YOUR dog train of thought.
I personally would never try to tell anyone that a 'garbage' food is "OK" NOR would I try to convince anyone that a 'high quality' food is "OK" for their dog, because bottom line is, I don't know what is the best option for THEIR dog anymore than the next person. No one can know if there are and aren't "ways around it" and what those "ways" may be with any certainty for anyone's dogs but their own. And I certainly don't think it's fair for others to be put down or made to feel bad about what they are feeding their little ones, for whatever reason--in particular under the guise that it must they must "care less" for their dog(s).
I do what I feel is best for mine, and I may be going out on a limb here, but I feel like I am a better judge of that than anyone else here. I trust that everyone here here has the mental capability to make that decision for themselves too.


:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: awesome post!! I am soooo tired of the food debate when it comes to animals and everyone thinking that what they feed THIER pets is the best. I do what is best for MY PETS and they are all healthy happy and look great.
Wanted to add... many years ago I fed all of my pets "store brand" foods and NOT ONE of them died of anything but old age. I had a dog that lived to be 16 years old and was fed nothing but DAD's brand dog food..:rolleyes:

_Chrissy_ 12-02-2008 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2357386)
Natural Balance was recalled.
Foods made at Diamond were recalled because of aflatoxin...and there was something online about them putting things through that they shouldn't have leading to this. That killed several dogs. Canidae is now manufactured there as is Chicken Soup, I believe and lots of other big names. I would really hesitate to feed any food made there.

This is WHY I started feeding my pup EVO. Not made at the Diamond Plant.
Natura produces/manufactures their own foods in their OWN plant. Innova, EVO, CA Natural, ...

hugz4all4 12-02-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2357386)
Natural Balance was recalled.
Foods made at Diamond were recalled because of aflatoxin...and there was something online about them putting things through that they shouldn't have leading to this. That killed several dogs. Canidae is now manufactured there as is Chicken Soup, I believe and lots of other big names. I would really hesitate to feed any food made there.

I wouldn't want to give anything where any of the ingredients are from China (although that's about impossible with vitamins). That wheat gluten issue was because of that. As for quality control in general, I would sooner pick a company like SD because they have the money to do more testing on their foods. Not saying I am recommending it but I think there can be benefits when feeding food from a larger company. Of course this isn't always the case because look at Mars and Nutro...

And hasn't Merrick had three recalls?
One for metal in the food, one for possible salmonella and one when they were manufacturing a food for someone else and dogs started dying (could be wrong)?


The recall through diamond foods was in 2006, here is an article that I dug up about it, Toxic pet food kills dozens of dogs - Pet health- msnbc.com it was because of alfatoxin which usually involves corn.. most of thier products as well as canidea dont contain corn anymore. I know the 2 pet foods that I feed my pets dont. Im not saying that they werent wrong, however they fixed the problem. I honestly (and sadly) believe that eventually every pet food company will have some sort of recall.
Even with human food there are recalls just about everyday. :rolleyes:

hugz4all4 12-02-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _Chrissy_ (Post 2357606)
This is WHY I started feeding my pup EVO. Not made at the Diamond Plant.
Natura produces/manufactures their own foods in their OWN plant. Innova, EVO, CA Natural, ...


But do you know where they get thier ingredients from?? Just because they have their own plant doesnt mean that arent using the same ingredients or getting them at the same place that other plants do.

Ellie May 12-02-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hugz4all4 (Post 2357634)
The recall through diamond foods was in 2006, here is an article that I dug up about it, Toxic pet food kills dozens of dogs - Pet health- msnbc.com it was because of alfatoxin which usually involves corn.. most of thier products as well as canidea dont contain corn anymore. I know the 2 pet foods that I feed my pets dont. Im not saying that they werent wrong, however they fixed the problem. I honestly (and sadly) believe that eventually every pet food company will have some sort of recall.
Even with human food there are recalls just about everyday. :rolleyes:

I agree but I think with Diamond I had read that they wer letting things go through that they could've stopped. It is kind of like Menu Foods...not recalling right away but waiting around. I just don't really trust either of these places.

Ellie May 12-02-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hugz4all4 (Post 2357637)
But do you know where they get thier ingredients from?? Just because they have their own plant doesnt mean that arent using the same ingredients or getting them at the same place that other plants do.

Natura gets their ingredients from the US (and possible Canada...I forget now) but some of their vitamin premixes are from China. I had emailed them about this.

hugz4all4 12-02-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2357647)
I agree but I think with Diamond I had read that they wer letting things go through that they could've stopped. It is kind of like Menu Foods...not recalling right away but waiting around. I just don't really trust either of these places.

Its hard to trust any company anymore..unfortunatly.. however we have to feed our pets something right? For those of us who dont/wont homecook for a varity of reasons we dont have much choice but to feed what we feel is the best for our pets.

Ellie May 12-02-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hugz4all4 (Post 2357773)
Its hard to trust any company anymore..unfortunatly.. however we have to feed our pets something right? For those of us who dont/wont homecook for a varity of reasons we dont have much choice but to feed what we feel is the best for our pets.

Even with homecooking, and especially if you add dog vitamins, there is still risk. But there are certain companies that don't seem to care about putting animals in danger and I can't/won't trust them.

hugz4all4 12-02-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2357779)
Even with homecooking, and especially if you add dog vitamins, there is still risk. But there are certain companies that don't seem to care about putting animals in danger and I can't/won't trust them.


and I agree with you 100 percent.. :thumbup:

artie merlino 12-03-2008 07:50 PM

What about Eukanuba-Yorkshire Terrier Formula?
 
I never had any problems w/Royal Canin mini 28/Yorkshire terrier Formula, all
3 of them Love it! I did switch it gradually to the Diet Formula b/c they had gained so much weight from my Mother feeding them very un-healthy Table Food. Plus the drastic weather change from Summer to Winter Freeze.
Their skin is white and flakey and they won't STOP Scratching, it's gotten to the point where I had to trim their Hair from a long flowing coat to a medium length from patches of Hair being scratched away at the root. I also switched their Shampoo to a Hypo Allergenic/Sensitive Skin Formula. Plus I sleep w/a Humidifier so their skin does'nt get dried out from the dry Heat of the Heating System? Since then my Mother has supposedly STOPPED feeding them? I don't walk them as much or often b/c it's too Cold! Their Scratching so bad that they have open wounds that form scabs. So I don't know what is
causing it? I'm trying to attack the problem from all angles? They don't have any visible signs of fleas either. I even stopped blow-drying them after their Baths, now they are towel dried and kept in a warm room and allowed to "Air
Dry". What about "Eukanuba for Yorkshire Terriers"? My Sister has her 2 on it and she has NO Problems, but they are in a different climate - Texas.
Has anyone heard anything about it?

Nancy1999 12-03-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by artie merlino (Post 2359921)
I never had any problems w/Royal Canin mini 28/Yorkshire terrier Formula, all
3 of them Love it! I did switch it gradually to the Diet Formula b/c they had gained so much weight from my Mother feeding them very un-healthy Table Food. Plus the drastic weather change from Summer to Winter Freeze.
Their skin is white and flakey and they won't STOP Scratching, it's gotten to the point where I had to trim their Hair from a long flowing coat to a medium length from patches of Hair being scratched away at the root. I also switched their Shampoo to a Hypo Allergenic/Sensitive Skin Formula. Plus I sleep w/a Humidifier so their skin does'nt get dried out from the dry Heat of the Heating System? Since then my Mother has supposedly STOPPED feeding them? I don't walk them as much or often b/c it's too Cold! Their Scratching so bad that they have open wounds that form scabs. So I don't know what is
causing it? I'm trying to attack the problem from all angles? They don't have any visible signs of fleas either. I even stopped blow-drying them after their Baths, now they are towel dried and kept in a warm room and allowed to "Air
Dry". What about "Eukanuba for Yorkshire Terriers"? My Sister has her 2 on it and she has NO Problems, but they are in a different climate - Texas.
Has anyone heard anything about it?


Oh that sounds terrible, Joey eats the RC and has no problems, but some yorkies are allergic to corn, and some of the mixes have corn in it, I would look for something without any corn, and see if that helps. Make sure you are using a shampoo recommended for dogs, as they have a different skin and hair pH, and human shampoos, can be terribly drying to them. It doesn't happen overnight, and most people think it isn't the shampoo because of this, but it's really important to use a shampoo made for dogs. The number one thing most people skimp on is rinsing, this too can cause skin problems. You will find that skin problems are easier to prevent than cure. Scratching can lead to secondary infections. Mother must stop feeding table scrapes too.

Ellie May 12-04-2008 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by artie merlino (Post 2359921)
I never had any problems w/Royal Canin mini 28/Yorkshire terrier Formula, all
3 of them Love it! I did switch it gradually to the Diet Formula b/c they had gained so much weight from my Mother feeding them very un-healthy Table Food. Plus the drastic weather change from Summer to Winter Freeze.
Their skin is white and flakey and they won't STOP Scratching, it's gotten to the point where I had to trim their Hair from a long flowing coat to a medium length from patches of Hair being scratched away at the root. I also switched their Shampoo to a Hypo Allergenic/Sensitive Skin Formula. Plus I sleep w/a Humidifier so their skin does'nt get dried out from the dry Heat of the Heating System? Since then my Mother has supposedly STOPPED feeding them? I don't walk them as much or often b/c it's too Cold! Their Scratching so bad that they have open wounds that form scabs. So I don't know what is
causing it? I'm trying to attack the problem from all angles? They don't have any visible signs of fleas either. I even stopped blow-drying them after their Baths, now they are towel dried and kept in a warm room and allowed to "Air
Dry". What about "Eukanuba for Yorkshire Terriers"? My Sister has her 2 on it and she has NO Problems, but they are in a different climate - Texas.
Has anyone heard anything about it?

If the severe itching started after switching to the diet formula, that could very well be the problem. Many Yorkies are allergic to certain formulas of RC. If that's the case, I would be at the vet to get them steroid injections because it has become a quality of life issue.

hugz4all4 12-04-2008 06:35 AM

aww Im so sorry to hear about your dogs, how uncomfortable for them. I do have to agree with what the other 2 posters have said, its either probably the switch in the food or the corn. My sheltie would get some soars on his belly, they didnt seem to hurt him or did he scratch at them but they would never go away even with treatment, so I swtiched them to a grain free food and within 2 weeks they were gone. :).

artie merlino 12-15-2008 02:48 PM

Weigh in Today 12/15/08
 
OK. Everyone in this heated Debate......I took them to the Vet. today for their Annual Check-up & Vaccinations and Artie weighs 11 lb. he lost 1 1/2lb.
he was 12.5 lbs. Abigayle weighs 11.5 lbs. she only lost 1 lb. Pom Pom weighs
6 lbs. she lost 2 lbs. It's been about 2 weeks? No more Tablefood except for Apples, hard boiled egg whites, carrots, peas or beans. They still get alot of
"Treats" from "Friends" but I don't give them as much as I used to?
The Dogfood RC Weight Care30 w/c has fewer Calories may have helped?
I am still feeding them that until some one has a better suggestion w/o fillers or high Carbohydrates? I just make sure I walk/excercise them at least twice a day! I still want them to loose some more weight b/c it's NOT Healthy for them to be this Heavy. I'm going to try to get both Artie & Abigayle back down to 8-9 lb. range w/c is still very Muscular for them. Pom Pom maybe another pound she was 4 1/2 - 5 lb. range. Could it be "Old Age"? They are going on 5, 4 and 3 yrs. old respectively. Do Yorkies get bigger w/old Age?

carmen in nj 12-15-2008 03:26 PM

My son is a vet tech and a nutrition freak, for our dogs, he did a whole lot or research when he got his alaskan malamute puppy and at the top of his research was, Natures Variety, Enova Evo, Blue buffalo and some others that i don't recall right now, but for almost 3 years now, we been feeding all our dogs Enova Evo, they are a great food with all the requirements for a balance nutrition of your dog.
he adopted a Jack Russell terrier that was overweight and put her on it too and she lost weight gradually and right now she is at her perfect weight. My 2 yorkies and my silkie have been on it too. Prada and Chanel started eating Enova when they were 10 weeks old and the vet said the other day that they are in perfect weight and their coats are so cute and perfect too..
hugs,
Carmen in nj


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