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sparks_yorkies · 11-20-2007, 04:56 PM

Hi all,
My name is Tanya. I have two yorkies. An eight year old neutered male named Jack and a 12 week old male names Willy. They are the light of my world and I'm probably a little bit more obsessed with them then I should be. My problem right now is my eight year old. He is severely obsese. I'm embarassed to say how much he weighs. He lives to eat. He will dig out trash, sneek and eat the puppies food when he doesn't think anyone is looking, he even dislocated his shoulder last christmas trying to jump from the couch to the coffee table trying to get a food wrapper that was left there over night. He acts like he is starving to death all the time. I know that he isn't starving because he is huge. He almost seems obsessed with food. He had mouth rot as a young dog and doesn't have alot of teeth left. That is even with frequent tooth brushing when he was young. We are currently feeding him canned food. We have cut him back to two table spoons of food twice a day and he still won't loose an ounce. I have discussed this with my vet and he didn't seem at all concerned. He is currently more than double his 2yr. old adult weight. I'm at my witts end. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Food brands that would be okay for a dog with a weight problem and one who doesn't have many teeth suggestions would be great!! PLEASE HELP!! I DON'T WANT MY DOG TO DIE YOUNG BECAUSE I WAS STUPID ABOUT HIS HEALTH!

Thanks for your time,
Tanya

dani23d · 11-20-2007, 04:59 PM

Welcome to YT! How's his exercise routine? Don't be embarassed, you might just have a throwback yorkie who might have carried genes from his G-G-G-G-G-G-Great Grandparents when yorkies were bred at a larger size (12 lbs average). Perhaps you should get a second opinion from another vet? Or try experimenting with different foods?

my2boyz · 11-20-2007, 05:00 PM

Welcome to YT. By coming here it shows you care and you're not being 'stupid about your dog's health'...if you didn't care you wouldn't ask, right?

First, I think I would see another vet and have some tests run to make sure there is no underlying health issue at hand.

Second, 2 tablespoons of food twice a day doesn't sound like very much...he probably is hungry! There are some very good foods available for overweight dogs. Does he get excersize like daily walks? That would help I'm sure.

patty58 · 11-20-2007, 05:02 PM

Welcome to YT...have you tried some of the light foods?

Ellie May · 11-20-2007, 05:05 PM

Welcome to YorkieTalk.

Four tablespoons a day is only about 1/4 which is way too little for a larger Yorkie. Can you feel your dog's ribs? Is he fat or is he just a bigger Yorkie? Have any tests been run?

MyFairLacy · 11-20-2007, 05:15 PM

I would have his thyroid levels tested as hypothyroidism is pretty common in dogs and can cause obesity very easily. It could also be some other type of hormone deficiency or even too much of a hormone.

There is a newly-approved weight loss medication for dogs available now. I don't know much about it, but it might be looking into http://dog-care.suite101.com/article..._drug_for_dogs

Ellie May · 11-20-2007, 05:26 PM

When I said 1/4, I meant 1/4 cup.

Potter · 11-20-2007, 05:45 PM

Two tablespoon twice a day sounds too little food and he probably is hungry. Dogs will usually stop eating when they are full especially the small breeds. It might help to feed him more of a proper nutritous food enough so that he doesn't scavenge from other places in your kitchen. How much does your little one weigh and what are his measurements? Do you exercise or walk him every day? Maybe get your vet to check it out too, the obesity might not be realy from food if he is just eating two tablespoon twice a day. Also, do you deworm your dog? I have seen dogs that have worms will end up with a big belly although I don't see that very often in Canada.

livingdustmops · 11-20-2007, 06:11 PM

I had wonderful success using this diet plan.

Pumpkin Diet

(by M. Christine Zink, D.V.M., Ph.D., and Julie Daniels in their book "Jumping from A to Z")

This is a good diet to help your dog lose those extra, unhealthy pounds. Extra weight on a dog causes hip and shoulder problems later down the road. The less your dog weighs the better he feels! The same with humans!

Stick to it, even if you don’t think it is working. I put my dog on it and he lost 20 pounds in 3 months! I did increase his (and my) exercise and I think that helped out a lot in the speed of his weight loss.

For every ½ cup of food you cut out of your dog’s diet, replace it with twice as much canned pumpkin.

So, assuming you had been feeding one cup of food per feeding (twice a day), then you would give ½ cup of food and one cup of pumpkin at each feeding. This is the canned "Solid Pack Pumpkin" not the pumpkin pie filling mix.

You can also fill in your dog’s diet with other vegetables: carrots (cooked or raw), green beans, and peas. For treats you can use , carrot pieces, bits of rice cakes and an occasional bit of Roll-Over or other tasty morsel.

sparks_yorkies · 11-21-2007, 04:22 AM

Hey all,

Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it very much. To answer some of your questions. No, he is not just a large yorkie. He was a healthy weight at two years old the day we had him neutered. He weighed 5.2 lbs. at two years old. He is a little more dense framed than other yorkies I have seen but at two years old, the vet said he was a very healthy weight. As far as feeding him too little. With jack, all food servings are too little. We cut him back because he just kept getting fatter and fatter. I tried free feeding him dry and just doing the can food twice a day. I put out the dry food in a large bowl and he eat until he threw up. Literally. No, you can't feel his ribs. Actually, when you palpate his ribs all you feel squishy fat. I haven't felt ribs on him in years! He is so chunky, his front legs are starting to bow out and he has a dip in his back where his spine should be. I know you shouldn't see their spine but shouldn't you be able to palpate it under the skin? He's just a fat boy. I know that he will never be rail thin and I don't want that. But, he is starting to have joint problems due to the weight. I will have to try the pumpkin diet. He isn't getting enough food I'm sure, but that is what is so puzzling about him continuing to gain weight. Maybe it is some sort of thyroid problem. I will definately be making an appt. with a new vet today! Thanks for all the feed back. I will be posting some pics of him and my little baby on the picture board.
Hugs
Tanya

Ellie May · 11-21-2007, 07:32 AM

Yes, please make an appt. Something just doesn't sound right and if he is over 10 pounds he should be getting a lot more than 4 tablespoons a day. My Yorkie eats homecooked food. It is an moist as canned food so they have to eat a lot more to have enough calories. Ellie is almost 6 pounds and eats a little over 3/4 cup a day.

myboy · 11-21-2007, 07:53 AM

welcome to YT
How much walking does he get. I try taking him on serveral walks aday.

Good luck.
Keep us posted on what you find out.

Lexi Rae · 11-21-2007, 12:23 PM

you are starving him.. you really have to feed him more than you are now..
he will lose weight, but it will take time,, i have lexi on a diet also.. she
was getting bigger by the day... i still feed her everyday, but much
heathier and i add string beans to make her feel ful... please seek another
vet, there might be a problem..

Yorkiekids · 11-21-2007, 01:41 PM

Welcome to YT. You might want to use one of the diet brand foods. There's an analysis of dog foods that maybe someone can post for you.

jp4m2 · 11-21-2007, 04:28 PM

I hope you follow the advice and get his thyroid checked...we had a lab withy a thyroid problem and she acted as if she was always starving, she would rip garbage bags open and just eat and eat, she was so large she had a sway back and very dry flaky skin and a dull coat....she was put on meds and lost about 20 lbs. and her coat cleared up.....Good luck....

11-20-2007, 04:56 PM	#1
sparks_yorkies YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 4	New to board and need help with obese yorkie! Hi all, My name is Tanya. I have two yorkies. An eight year old neutered male named Jack and a 12 week old male names Willy. They are the light of my world and I'm probably a little bit more obsessed with them then I should be. My problem right now is my eight year old. He is severely obsese. I'm embarassed to say how much he weighs. He lives to eat. He will dig out trash, sneek and eat the puppies food when he doesn't think anyone is looking, he even dislocated his shoulder last christmas trying to jump from the couch to the coffee table trying to get a food wrapper that was left there over night. He acts like he is starving to death all the time. I know that he isn't starving because he is huge. He almost seems obsessed with food. He had mouth rot as a young dog and doesn't have alot of teeth left. That is even with frequent tooth brushing when he was young. We are currently feeding him canned food. We have cut him back to two table spoons of food twice a day and he still won't loose an ounce. I have discussed this with my vet and he didn't seem at all concerned. He is currently more than double his 2yr. old adult weight. I'm at my witts end. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Food brands that would be okay for a dog with a weight problem and one who doesn't have many teeth suggestions would be great!! PLEASE HELP!! I DON'T WANT MY DOG TO DIE YOUNG BECAUSE I WAS STUPID ABOUT HIS HEALTH! Thanks for your time, Tanya

11-20-2007, 05:02 PM	#4
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11-20-2007, 05:05 PM	#5
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Welcome to YorkieTalk. Four tablespoons a day is only about 1/4 which is way too little for a larger Yorkie. Can you feel your dog's ribs? Is he fat or is he just a bigger Yorkie? Have any tests been run? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

11-20-2007, 05:15 PM	#6
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	I would have his thyroid levels tested as hypothyroidism is pretty common in dogs and can cause obesity very easily. It could also be some other type of hormone deficiency or even too much of a hormone. There is a newly-approved weight loss medication for dogs available now. I don't know much about it, but it might be looking into http://dog-care.suite101.com/article..._drug_for_dogs __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

11-20-2007, 05:26 PM	#7
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	When I said 1/4, I meant 1/4 cup. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

11-20-2007, 04:59 PM	#2
dani23d YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 560	Welcome to YT! How's his exercise routine? Don't be embarassed, you might just have a throwback yorkie who might have carried genes from his G-G-G-G-G-G-Great Grandparents when yorkies were bred at a larger size (12 lbs average). Perhaps you should get a second opinion from another vet? Or try experimenting with different foods?

11-20-2007, 05:00 PM	#3
my2boyz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my house :) Posts: 5,219	Welcome to YT. By coming here it shows you care and you're not being 'stupid about your dog's health'...if you didn't care you wouldn't ask, right? First, I think I would see another vet and have some tests run to make sure there is no underlying health issue at hand. Second, 2 tablespoons of food twice a day doesn't sound like very much...he probably is hungry! There are some very good foods available for overweight dogs. Does he get excersize like daily walks? That would help I'm sure.

11-20-2007, 05:45 PM	#8
Potter YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,583	Two tablespoon twice a day sounds too little food and he probably is hungry. Dogs will usually stop eating when they are full especially the small breeds. It might help to feed him more of a proper nutritous food enough so that he doesn't scavenge from other places in your kitchen. How much does your little one weigh and what are his measurements? Do you exercise or walk him every day? Maybe get your vet to check it out too, the obesity might not be realy from food if he is just eating two tablespoon twice a day. Also, do you deworm your dog? I have seen dogs that have worms will end up with a big belly although I don't see that very often in Canada. __________________ http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?j=t&i=410379 "No matter how little money and how few possesions you own, having a dog makes you rich."

11-20-2007, 06:11 PM	#9
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	I had wonderful success using this diet plan. Pumpkin Diet (by M. Christine Zink, D.V.M., Ph.D., and Julie Daniels in their book "Jumping from A to Z") This is a good diet to help your dog lose those extra, unhealthy pounds. Extra weight on a dog causes hip and shoulder problems later down the road. The less your dog weighs the better he feels! The same with humans! Stick to it, even if you don’t think it is working. I put my dog on it and he lost 20 pounds in 3 months! I did increase his (and my) exercise and I think that helped out a lot in the speed of his weight loss. For every ½ cup of food you cut out of your dog’s diet, replace it with twice as much canned pumpkin. So, assuming you had been feeding one cup of food per feeding (twice a day), then you would give ½ cup of food and one cup of pumpkin at each feeding. This is the canned "Solid Pack Pumpkin" not the pumpkin pie filling mix. You can also fill in your dog’s diet with other vegetables: carrots (cooked or raw), green beans, and peas. For treats you can use , carrot pieces, bits of rice cakes and an occasional bit of Roll-Over or other tasty morsel. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

11-21-2007, 04:22 AM	#10
sparks_yorkies YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 4	Hey all, Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it very much. To answer some of your questions. No, he is not just a large yorkie. He was a healthy weight at two years old the day we had him neutered. He weighed 5.2 lbs. at two years old. He is a little more dense framed than other yorkies I have seen but at two years old, the vet said he was a very healthy weight. As far as feeding him too little. With jack, all food servings are too little. We cut him back because he just kept getting fatter and fatter. I tried free feeding him dry and just doing the can food twice a day. I put out the dry food in a large bowl and he eat until he threw up. Literally. No, you can't feel his ribs. Actually, when you palpate his ribs all you feel squishy fat. I haven't felt ribs on him in years! He is so chunky, his front legs are starting to bow out and he has a dip in his back where his spine should be. I know you shouldn't see their spine but shouldn't you be able to palpate it under the skin? He's just a fat boy. I know that he will never be rail thin and I don't want that. But, he is starting to have joint problems due to the weight. I will have to try the pumpkin diet. He isn't getting enough food I'm sure, but that is what is so puzzling about him continuing to gain weight. Maybe it is some sort of thyroid problem. I will definately be making an appt. with a new vet today! Thanks for all the feed back. I will be posting some pics of him and my little baby on the picture board. Hugs Tanya

11-21-2007, 07:32 AM	#11
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Yes, please make an appt. Something just doesn't sound right and if he is over 10 pounds he should be getting a lot more than 4 tablespoons a day. My Yorkie eats homecooked food. It is an moist as canned food so they have to eat a lot more to have enough calories. Ellie is almost 6 pounds and eats a little over 3/4 cup a day. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

11-21-2007, 07:53 AM	#12
myboy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,416	welcome to YT How much walking does he get. I try taking him on serveral walks aday. Good luck. Keep us posted on what you find out. __________________ Deiter, Cozmo & Lynda Yorkie say I Love You with there tail. Deiter says Kalina

11-21-2007, 12:23 PM	#13
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	you are starving him.. you really have to feed him more than you are now.. he will lose weight, but it will take time,, i have lexi on a diet also.. she was getting bigger by the day... i still feed her everyday, but much heathier and i add string beans to make her feel ful... please seek another vet, there might be a problem.. __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

11-21-2007, 01:41 PM	#14
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	Welcome to YT. You might want to use one of the diet brand foods. There's an analysis of dog foods that maybe someone can post for you. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

11-21-2007, 04:28 PM	#15
jp4m2 Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys Posts: 5,056	I hope you follow the advice and get his thyroid checked...we had a lab withy a thyroid problem and she acted as if she was always starving, she would rip garbage bags open and just eat and eat, she was so large she had a sway back and very dry flaky skin and a dull coat....she was put on meds and lost about 20 lbs. and her coat cleared up.....Good luck.... __________________ B.J.mom to : Jake J.J. Jack & Joey, momma misses you..... The joy found in the companionship of a pet is a blessing not given to everyone. The two most powerful words when we’re in struggle: me too..