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kalina82 03-29-2007 03:38 PM

what to do about this hair?
 
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morgan is one giant poof ball. nothing i use makes her hair silkier. She is a cotton coat, her hair is really thick, and its hard to brush sometimes. i just tried brushing her with a cc gold pin brush that i got and she HATES it. i've tried CM, CC day to day, and biogroom. i have a shampoo and conditioner collection going here. the biogroom is nice because it doesn't leave her hair greasy.

i just wish something good would work on this hair. i'm tired of spending money on shampoo to use it once or twice and not use it again.

help please

she looks sad in the pics because i was just brushing her which she did not enjoy. she's due for a bath too so dont mind the tear stains

Monday 03-29-2007 03:43 PM

Morgan's hair is nice .... you can work with it. Monday has the same type of coat ... itz shiny and smooth ... keep the cut short and comb her often ... it will be easier for you then! she is adorable!!!!...

chachi 03-29-2007 03:43 PM

Jewels is a cotton coat too. I use Biogroom shampoo and pantene conditioner. I leave the pantene on about ten minutes. This leaves Jewels hair super soft. I dont have to brush her every night

kalina82 03-29-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1034134)
Jewels is a cotton coat too. I use Biogroom shampoo and pantene conditioner. I leave the pantene on about ten minutes. This leaves Jewels hair super soft. I dont have to brush her every night

morgan is a year old (almost) and still has this coat. isn't Jewel still a puppy?

I have pantene smooth and sleek that i used to use on her but stoped. does is leave jewel looking greasy?

kalina82 03-29-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Monday (Post 1034133)
Morgan's hair is nice .... you can work with it. Monday has the same type of coat ... itz shiny and smooth ... keep the cut short and comb her often ... it will be easier for you then! she is adorable!!!!...



i had morgan in a shorter coat but she looks so cute with the longer hair. i would like to grow it out but if its just gonna get worse i'm probably better off cutting her hair.

YorkieRose 03-29-2007 03:54 PM

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I wish I was closer..I would love to groom and trim her in a super cute cut..oh, no, I never thought I would say I missed grooming..LOL once in awhile would be okay...

kalina82 03-29-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1034157)
I wish I was closer..I would love to groom and trim her in a super cute cut..oh, no, I never thought I would say I missed grooming..LOL once in awhile would be okay...

that would be awesome!

i usually cut her hair myself and it usually turns out pretty good but i'd like her to be pretty with long hair. lol i got jipped on yorkie hair

chachi 03-29-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1034149)
morgan is a year old (almost) and still has this coat. isn't Jewel still a puppy?

I have pantene smooth and sleek that i used to use on her but stoped. does is leave jewel looking greasy?

No Jewels is an adult. It doesnt leave her greasy

kalina82 03-29-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1034174)
No Jewels is an adult. It doesnt leave her greasy

ohh, looking at your avatar picture makes me think jewels is forever a puppy LOL chachi is the bigger one in the picture right?

kalina82 03-29-2007 04:47 PM

she also gets very knotty and matted on her chest hair on her underside in between the front legs. maybe i should just trim this down and leave the rest as this is the main problem i have with her

JESSY_RN2B 03-29-2007 04:55 PM

She is adorable!!

If only I could trade you a bit of Bobbi's silky coat for some of her volume and thick coat...........we'd have a perfect coat :D

kalina82 03-29-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B (Post 1034286)
She is adorable!!

If only I could trade you a bit of Bobbi's silky coat for some of her volume and thick coat...........we'd have a perfect coat :D

can we do a yorkie hair transplant? lol

JESSY_RN2B 03-29-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1034292)
can we do a yorkie hair transplant? lol

:thinking: Yorkie hair transplant eh? :thinking:

It's funny because I wish I had straight hair (it's naturally curly), my Asian friend wishes she had curly...........we are never satisfied are we :wink3:

kalina82 03-29-2007 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B (Post 1034296)
:thinking: Yorkie hair transplant eh? :thinking:

It's funny because I wish I had straight hair (it's naturally curly), my Asian friend wishes she had curly...........we are never satisfied are we :wink3:

oh i hear that! i have curly hair and straighten it every day *sigh* the grass is always greener.....

JESSY_RN2B 03-29-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1034313)
oh i hear that! i have curly hair and straighten it every day *sigh* the grass is always greener.....

Then you understand :p

Patti 03-29-2007 05:22 PM

Cali has a cottony coat which easily mats. I just took her to a groomer who use to show Yorkies and asked her to keep Cali's coat long but to do something to make it easier and more manageable. She cut some hair on her underside and on her rear and she cut her hair by the eyes and it is much better. MAybe you could find someone in your area that could help you.

kalina82 03-29-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 1034334)
Cali has a cottony coat which easily mats. I just took her to a groomer who use to show Yorkies and asked her to keep Cali's coat long but to do something to make it easier and more manageable. She cut some hair on her underside and on her rear and she cut her hair by the eyes and it is much better. MAybe you could find someone in your area that could help you.

ah cool, do you have any close ups of her face so i can see how the hair around her eyes is cut?

genie 03-29-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1034127)
morgan is one giant poof ball. nothing i use makes her hair silkier. She is a cotton coat, her hair is really thick, and its hard to brush sometimes. i just tried brushing her with a cc gold pin brush that i got and she HATES it. i've tried CM, CC day to day, and biogroom. i have a shampoo and conditioner collection going here. the biogroom is nice because it doesn't leave her hair greasy.

i just wish something good would work on this hair. i'm tired of spending money on shampoo to use it once or twice and not use it again.

help please

she looks sad in the pics because i was just brushing her which she did not enjoy. she's due for a bath too so dont mind the tear stains

Hannahs coat looks like Morgans, but her eyes flash green. I am so confused about her coat.

onelovelylynn 03-29-2007 07:14 PM

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My Penny has a cotton coat too. I was at my wits ends with it..UNTIL I found a good groomer and she told me all that gray undercoat had to go. It was all dead puppy hair and thats what was getting matted!

So she used a stripping knife and stripped all the gray undercoat and WOW when I picked Penny up she looked like a different dog. She went from a cotton ball to a nice sleek yorkie.

Maybe you could find a groomer that knows how to strip the undercoat.

Heres pics. She did cut some of Pennys length cuz I wanted it shorter for summer.

kalina82 03-30-2007 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by onelovelylynn (Post 1034543)
My Penny has a cotton coat too. I was at my wits ends with it..UNTIL I found a good groomer and she told me all that gray undercoat had to go. It was all dead puppy hair and thats what was getting matted!

So she used a stripping knife and stripped all the gray undercoat and WOW when I picked Penny up she looked like a different dog. She went from a cotton ball to a nice sleek yorkie.

Maybe you could find a groomer that knows how to strip the undercoat.

Heres pics. She did cut some of Pennys length cuz I wanted it shorter for summer.

how old was penny when she had this done? was she at the age where her puppy coat was turning to an adult coat and just needed some help?

morgan has no silk to her hair at all, anywhere

yougetthesmiles 03-31-2007 08:27 AM

how old is she??

did you try the CC silk spirits? It's a leave in silking. I love it so much!
if she is still a puppy, it will take a while for her hair to lose it's puffiness. That's her baby hair.
Also, try not combing her when her hair is dry, you need to spray water or a leave in condioner on it when combing.


QUOTE=kalina82;1034127]morgan is one giant poof ball. nothing i use makes her hair silkier. She is a cotton coat, her hair is really thick, and its hard to brush sometimes. i just tried brushing her with a cc gold pin brush that i got and she HATES it. i've tried CM, CC day to day, and biogroom. i have a shampoo and conditioner collection going here. the biogroom is nice because it doesn't leave her hair greasy.

i just wish something good would work on this hair. i'm tired of spending money on shampoo to use it once or twice and not use it again.

help please

she looks sad in the pics because i was just brushing her which she did not enjoy. she's due for a bath too so dont mind the tear stains[/QUOTE]

Dan & Corinne 03-31-2007 09:13 AM

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Jazzy is a cottony girl too. I use Pantene conditioner too - the Deep Conditioner type. I leave it on for about 5 minutes. While the conditioner is on her, I get a super wide tooth comb and comb the conditioner through then rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse her. She doesn't get greasy as long as I make sure I rinse her really good.

I keep her chest & armpits cut short along with the inside of the back legs. As I blow dry her I use the Pantene Leave-In Conditioner or Cowboy Magic - I prefer the Pantene.

Pictures #1 & #2 shows how cottony her coat is (this is the shortest I've had her cut - ever!). And #3 shows how much hair she has! #4 is to show how smooth and shiny she is.

kalina82 03-31-2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by yougetthesmiles (Post 1036903)
how old is she??

did you try the CC silk spirits? It's a leave in silking. I love it so much!
if she is still a puppy, it will take a while for her hair to lose it's puffiness. That's her baby hair.
Also, try not combing her when her hair is dry, you need to spray water or a leave in condioner on it when combing.


morgan will be a year on april 15 so this isn't her puppy coat. I have tried the CC day to day shampoo. i got that sample pack with the shampoo, ice on ice, and some other stuff in it. i like the ice because it doesn't make her hairy greasy when i use it after her bath.

kalina82 03-31-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan & Corinne (Post 1036945)
Jazzy is a cottony girl too. I use Pantene conditioner too - the Deep Conditioner type. I leave it on for about 5 minutes. While the conditioner is on her, I get a super wide tooth comb and comb the conditioner through then rinse and rinse and rinse and rinse her. She doesn't get greasy as long as I make sure I rinse her really good.

I keep her chest & armpits cut short along with the inside of the back legs. As I blow dry her I use the Pantene Leave-In Conditioner or Cowboy Magic - I prefer the Pantene.

Pictures #1 & #2 shows how cottony her coat is (this is the shortest I've had her cut - ever!). And #3 shows how much hair she has! #4 is to show how smooth and shiny she is.

wow i didn't realize jazzy has such a big poofy coat. Yesterday while in the shower i washed morgan first and then used the pantene smooth and sleek conidtioner on her. I left it on for about 10 minutes then rinsed and rinsed it off. today her hair is softer then usually but not shiney or sleeker LOL i haven't tried the cm conditioning spray yet because i didnt want to waste my money on something else that didn't work. i also just cut down morgan's chest hair the other day because it was matting. i'm gonna have to do the armpits and back inside legs too because that's where mats happen too. Thanks!!!!!

maybe i'll order the CM conditioning spray

Yorkiedaze 03-31-2007 09:41 AM

Looks like if you want it to grow long your going to have to find a really good leave in conditioner. Some conditioners, like the #1 ALL SYSTEMS can be diluted down and then put in a spray bottle to mist and leave on. It's a lot less expensive than the conditioners that are alread diluted down. If you don't want to have to spend a lot of time on her coat then I'd suggest having the back sides, neck and belly all cut with a #3 blade. That's how I cut my Azrael. I leave the rest including the chest hair. Also try a hot oil treatment (like VO5) after each shampoo. Give a cod liver oil gel cap each day too.

Dan & Corinne 03-31-2007 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1036962)
wow i didn't realize jazzy has such a big poofy coat. Yesterday while in the shower i washed morgan first and then used the pantene smooth and sleek conidtioner on her. I left it on for about 10 minutes then rinsed and rinsed it off. today her hair is softer then usually but not shiney or sleeker LOL i haven't tried the cm conditioning spray yet because i didnt want to waste my money on something else that didn't work. i also just cut down morgan's chest hair the other day because it was matting. i'm gonna have to do the armpits and back inside legs too because that's where mats happen too. Thanks!!!!!

maybe i'll order the CM conditioning spray

Yeah, Jazzie is a fur ball! It takes about 20 minutes to blow dry her! So I bathe her once every 2 weeks. After the first week, I need to use the Pantene leave in conditionaer to keep her coat manageable.

I thought you already had CM? I just use the detangler and rub it in while her hair is wet, comb it through and dry her. No need to buy something else. I've been thinking about putting the CM detanger in a spray bottle with water to dilute it. Has anyone tried this?

kalina82 03-31-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan & Corinne (Post 1036994)
Yeah, Jazzie is a fur ball! It takes about 20 minutes to blow dry her! So I bathe her once every 2 weeks. After the first week, I need to use the Pantene leave in conditionaer to keep her coat manageable.

I thought you already had CM? I just use the detangler and rub it in while her hair is wet, comb it through and dry her. No need to buy something else. I've been thinking about putting the CM detanger in a spray bottle with water to dilute it. Has anyone tried this?

i had purchased the CM shampoo and conditioner a while back and didn't see much when i used it on morgan. So i used the rest on myself LOL I never bought the detangler tho.

i have to bathe morgan every week because her hair starts looking dirty

chachi 03-31-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1034273)
she also gets very knotty and matted on her chest hair on her underside in between the front legs. maybe i should just trim this down and leave the rest as this is the main problem i have with her

Yes I would trim that hair. Jewels gets matted there too. If that is the only place she really matts that is very good for a cotton coat. That is manageable. Maybe she has more of a modified silk coat because cotton coats usually matt up all over

kalina82 03-31-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1037455)
Yes I would trim that hair. Jewels gets matted there too. If that is the only place she really matts that is very good for a cotton coat. That is manageable. Maybe she has more of a modified silk coat because cotton coats usually matt up all over

really? does jewels mat all over? even on her back?

chachi 03-31-2007 03:37 PM

Yes I really have to keep up on her hair to keep her from Matting. I deep condition and brush her and that keeps her hair silkier but if i miss her weekly bath and deep condition she will matt


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