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yorkiesmiles 12-05-2007 08:23 PM

Flying without Health Certificate??
 
I know many of you say you have never been asked to show a health certificate when flying with a pet inside the cabin. But does anyone go without one even when the airlines say that don't require it??

I'm flying Northwest and they say they don't require one, but state's might. So who exactly might check for one?? I don't understand, if it's not the airline, are there other officials who might ask for such papers?? I'm confused.

A gal at my vets said you need one just to cross state lines in a car - but she also told me something else that I know for a fact is not true, so I don't know what to believe.

Do any of you not even bother with this?

livingdustmops 12-05-2007 08:58 PM

These are state laws so my best advise is to check with the state you are flying into.

RONLYNN 12-05-2007 11:20 PM

We're flying US Airways on Tuesday and they don't require one. I am just going to get a copy of Teddi's shots faxed to me from the vet.

yorkiekist 12-05-2007 11:55 PM

I always get a health certificate just in case. Some airlines are diligent about this and some individuals working at the counter will require it. When you get one from the vet, he will look up to see what the other state you are flying to requires. I would rather be safe than sorry and have to cancel my trip because I didnt have what I needed to fly.

Sookie 12-06-2007 09:01 AM

When I flew Northwest they didn't check. When I flew Delta they did check. I wouldn't go without one.

bchgirl 12-06-2007 09:12 AM

When I was checking airline restrictions I don't recall ANY of the airlines themselves requiring the health certificate. It's the states that require them and if there is a USDA inspector on the destination end you may be required to produce one.

Sookie 12-06-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 1585093)
When I was checking airline restrictions I don't recall ANY of the airlines themselves requiring the health certificate. It's the states that require them and if there is a USDA inspector on the destination end you may be required to produce one.

The airline specifically said I would need one and they checked my health certificate at check in. That was the only time I had to produce it.

Yorkiedaze 12-06-2007 11:30 AM

I've never taken a health certificate for the dogs when we fly. I was told it's only required if you travel out of the USA. It sure can be confusing when even the ticket agent is saying otherwise. Now I wonder where we can all get a list of the rules. :rolleyes:

kay6688 12-06-2007 11:50 AM

When we flew American in April, they required a Health Certificate. They didn't ask for it at St. Louis (where we left from) or when we landed in San Antonio. They asked for it when we were leaving San Antonio (like the little infected thing had already been there for a week & we were taking his germs back to Missouri) We thought that was a little funny!

Sookie 12-06-2007 11:53 AM

I found this:
DELTA
A health certificate is required when shipping your pet as air cargo. While Delta does not require a health certificate for carried-on or checked pets, upon arrival, the certificate may be required by the state.

NORTHWEST
Northwest Airlines does not require a health certificate for carry-on pets. However, it is your responsibility to comply with all local, state and national entry requirements which may apply.
Many states and foreign countries require that pets be accompanied by a health certificate.
U.S. and international regulations require that all warm-blooded animals shipped as VIP or General Cargo be accompanied by a health certificate. The health certificate must be issued by a veterinarian licensed in the country of origin within 10 days prior to travel.

I had a carry on pet and was asked for the health certificate at the Philadelphia airport, so perhaps it is a Pennsylvania requirement.

My new puppy is coming tomorrow by Continental, so I was a little dismayed to find this on their site:
No oxygen will be administered to a pet in the event of an emergency.

bchgirl 12-06-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 1585437)
I've never taken a health certificate for the dogs when we fly. I was told it's only required if you travel out of the USA. It sure can be confusing when even the ticket agent is saying otherwise. Now I wonder where we can all get a list of the rules. :rolleyes:


http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/sregs/

Yorkiekids 12-06-2007 01:04 PM

I flew Delta and they checked for it, so I'd bring it just in case. It would be horrible to get to the airport, and be turned away.

Yorkiedaze 12-06-2007 01:37 PM

Now I'm wondering why I've never been ask? Oh well. Thank you bcgirl. That is a wealth of information for sure. Thank you again!

yorkiesmiles 12-06-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 1585093)
When I was checking airline restrictions I don't recall ANY of the airlines themselves requiring the health certificate. It's the states that require them and if there is a USDA inspector on the destination end you may be required to produce one.

Have you ever seen a USDA inspector? I'm just trying to figure this out. I'm planning to get the health certificate. Do these inspectors know when pets are flying and might they be there when I get off the plane or when I get back on for my return flight?

Just trying to work this in my head - if the airline doesn't require it, who, when, where wants to see it. Or are the USDA inspectors going to be near the security folks.

Anyone encounter these inspectors? Do they just look at the certificate or also your pet?

I'm getting the form, but boy the vets get their money on these too - I was told there would be an office visit charge and $10 for each certificate - one more expense with flying with pets.

What does a health certificate look like?? Is there a standard? Or is this just basically just a letter from your vet saying the animal is healthy?

YorkieRose 12-07-2007 07:08 AM

problem
 
The problem is this....while you are arguing with the airlines people, the plane leaves you behind. I have never been asked for one, but was stopped to show the "boarder" a rabies tag..of course it was at the bottom of my bag and I honestly thought I was going to have to miss my flight while I dumped out my carry on to find it....since then I clip the tag to the carrier handler..

bettyeanne 12-07-2007 07:20 AM

:) Me too, Pat! I have everything ready for Toto "just in case" ... tags, health certificate, etc. I did not know about the oxygen!!! Sorry that they don't want them to leave their carrier, but in the event that oxygen is needed, you can bet your boots, Toto will be "buddy breathing" with me & Patrick! I dare say, with all the panic this would entail ... noone is going to bother telling me I can't have her out from under the seat. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I would never travel with Toto without all the papers necessary to avoid any sort of problem that can easily be avoided. Hope your trip is great! ;)

KathyinCali 12-07-2007 08:10 AM

When flying Delta
 
We have flown Delta 5 times since June 1st-both in and out of the country...

Through our veternarian, I've checked for each state we've flown to beforehand and so far each has not required a a health certificate upon arrival. I do take her shot records and rabies tag just in case but other than when we have taken her out of the country we haven't needed a certificate. Even then they didn't even check it but better safe than sorry... I also keep a copy of Delta's policy in our travel bag...

With more and more pets flying I really wish they would set up a "Passport" program for pets...

celstu1 12-07-2007 09:43 AM

I am flying with 2 dogs from NH to NM in about 12 days. NWA does not require health certs and New Mexico state law says this:

***DOGS***


No prior entry permit required.


Health certificate showing rabies vaccination within 12 months of entry for dogs 3 months of age or older.


So Im bringing the dogs rabies vaccination papers which has their name, dob, weight, etc. Im thinking that will be good enough if they are really only looking for proof of rabies vacs.

Good Luck and have fun traveling with your baby! This is the first time I travel with mine! Wish me luck too! :) I am just hoping and praying at this point that they won't have a problem with both my babies going on the plane. :)

yorkiesmiles 12-07-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KathyinCali (Post 1587756)

With more and more pets flying I really wish they would set up a "Passport" program for pets...

:thumbup: :thumbup: that sounds like a great idea :thumbup: :thumbup:

YorkieRose 12-09-2007 11:08 AM

ToTo
 
Bettyanne, you better give that baby angel, Toto oxygen...I still have her Santa photo in a tiny frame on my Yorkie cabinet...

KobeKins 01-04-2008 10:39 AM

I was told by the vet it is not so much the airlines that require it, but the STATEs.

I've only been asked once (his 1st flight) never again after that. This most recent trip home I got one, but lost it in the air port at the ticket counter. No one asked me.

I get mine free with his care plan

yorkiesmiles 01-04-2008 12:14 PM

Well I'm the OP & I spent bucks for the vet visit & the health certificate & carried it with me to & from - no one cared they just had the best time seeing my yorkies - of course they were toooooooo cute dressed as Santa & Mrs. Claus on the departure trip.

No one in security or with the state seemed too concerned - it's just crazy because if you need them they should be checking for them or forget the whole thing

pea496 01-04-2008 01:20 PM

I called Delta before we went to Florida to see if they required a health certificate. They said they didn't, but the state I was flying to may require one, so to check with the state. I googled it and Florida did require a health certificate. I got one to be safe, even though my mom and dad fly back and forth to Florida all the time and have never had their health certificate checked.

I would still get one just in case we were required to produce it in Florida (even though it costs me an office visit go get).

Boodad 01-04-2008 01:46 PM

Health Cert
 
Just like the above post, some states require one for entry some do not. Idaho does and they checked when we got there.

yorkiesmiles 01-04-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pea496 (Post 1648353)
I called Delta before we went to Florida to see if they required a health certificate. They said they didn't, but the state I was flying to may require one, so to check with the state. I googled it and Florida did require a health certificate. I got one to be safe, even though my mom and dad fly back and forth to Florida all the time and have never had their health certificate checked.

I would still get one just in case we were required to produce it in Florida (even though it costs me an office visit go get).

yep, it was Florida I just got from - and who wants to chance having their baby quarantined. Paying the vet is better - but it does seem like a racket. I think it's more about large farm animals traveling & pets flying internationally - anything that could bring a disease in.

RONLYNN 01-04-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KobeKins (Post 1647915)
I was told by the vet it is not so much the airlines that require it, but the STATEs.

I've only been asked once (his 1st flight) never again after that. This most recent trip home I got one, but lost it in the air port at the ticket counter. No one asked me.

I get mine free with his care plan

What kind of plan do you have that covers the health certificates? Just courious.

Shelby&Seymour 01-06-2008 05:45 AM

I think it is probabaly good practice to get a health certificate ANYTIME you are going to be away from home. (including rabie tags). I also suggest a ID tag that includes your CELLPHONE number.

celstu1 01-07-2008 05:39 PM

I just flew northwest with 2 dogs and did not bring health certs, noone even looked at the carrier! noone cared! Northwest does not require them, so I wouldn't worry about it, but thats just me. Id fly them again, although we were not trouble free. There were delays on almost all flights, the dogs were barking in the bag on the floor and they wouldnt let me even put the bag on my lap while we were on the runway for an hour! Otherwise noone even knew the dogs were there! Pretty easy Id say!

I did take their rabies certs though, I put them in the carrier that way I could find them easily, just in case. I was not asked for them but Id do that again if I flew just in case!

michiko 02-19-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkiesmiles (Post 1584211)
I know many of you say you have never been asked to show a health certificate when flying with a pet inside the cabin. But does anyone go without one even when the airlines say that don't require it??

I'm flying Northwest and they say they don't require one, but state's might. So who exactly might check for one?? I don't understand, if it's not the airline, are there other officials who might ask for such papers?? I'm confused.

A gal at my vets said you need one just to cross state lines in a car - but she also told me something else that I know for a fact is not true, so I don't know what to believe.

Do any of you not even bother with this?

I fly with Haruka all the time... THey never asked me for papers... but I usually bring receipts of vaccinations.. :) It became handy when we decided to go to Disney at last trip for kennel :)

RONLYNN 02-19-2008 04:55 PM

Last time I flew we went US Airways and they didn't require one so I didn't get one. All I brought along was copies of her shots and no one even wanted to see them. I think if your dog is well behaved and well groomed and cute they are all good with it!!! Oh and if they are dressed then that puts them over the top and all they want to do is see and pet your dog and they don't care about anything else!


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