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gumbysuz

04-26-2011 08:59 PM

I don't want to get suspended...

Being new to YT, I have questions about suspension rules. For what reasons are members suspended? How long does it last? Can you still post while suspended? Is there recourse if you think the suspension is unjustified? Can admin or a moderator help me out here?

capt_noonie

04-26-2011 10:03 PM

I'm wondering why you are wondering?

Ellie May

04-27-2011 07:02 AM

I'm definitely not admin or a moderator, but the suspension rules are somewhere around here. I think they are in the FAQ section.

Usually the first suspension is 7 days, the second is 21 days, and the third is a permanent ban. Posting and PMing aren't allowed while suspended.

If you follow YT rules, then you have nothing to worry about. :) If rules are broken on accident and/or it wasn't too serious, then you'd probably get a warning.

It isn't easy to get suspended here really. The main thing is to just be kind. Personal attacks against others are definitely not tolerated.

I hope that helps some.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/faq..._new_faq_item2

megansmomma

04-27-2011 07:05 AM

Are you planning on being naughty? ;)

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...uidelines.html

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B. Personal Interaction & Consequences

1. Please be civil and do not personally attack anyone or their opinions. If you disagree with a member's approach or method, feel free to reply respectfully. Otherwise, you may choose to ignore their post. YT is not the place for rude, snide, or disrespectful remarks towards your fellow member or YT. We do not tolerate members who take advantage of our community with stories that don't make sense or those who post outright lies. We rely on an honor code in our community; lying to our community, stealing pictures or other content is not allowed.

2. Personal attacks are not acceptable. If you cannot get along with a member, please learn to, or consider whether this community is the right fit. You may also ignore a member with whom you do not get along. While YorkieTalk is an open, public forum where anyone can join, membership is a privilege, not a right.

3. If you personally attack another member (via forums, PMs, chat etc.), your account may be suspended for a period of SEVEN DAYS where you will NOT have access to your YorkieTalk. You will not be able to PM anyone, post new threads or reply to threads, or use YorkieTalk chat. If you try to circumvent this by creating another account to post or reply to messages, we will find out and both accounts will be PERMANENTLY BANNED. For more serious offenses, you may be banned from YorkieTalk immediately after a first offense.

4. If you attack a member again, you may be suspended for a period of TWENTY ONE DAYS. If it happens again, you may be PERMANENTLY BANNED from YorkieTalk. We do not allow discussions of suspensions or bans of any specific member. Please note, the duration/type of all consequences are at the discretion of the admin and moderators and are dependent upon each members' individual situation, the details of which are not shared with the community.

5. If someone attacks you, report it to us, DO NOT RETALIATE, or you may risk suspension as well. If you receive a private message (PM) that is an attack, do not delete it and do not respond. Immediately message admin and let us know who sent the attacking message and when they sent it. We will verify the message was indeed sent by that person and appropriate action will be taken.

6. Private messages are not for creating arguments, not for spamming, and not for trying to influence people to be on your side in a debate. They are for helping people with their Yorkies, asking general questions, and helping one another. You are welcome to ignore members you do not get along with.

gumbysuz

04-27-2011 07:49 AM

Thanks, guys, for guiding me to the official suspension rules. I was thinking that if someone could get suspended, then someone fairly new to YT had better be clear as to the rules.

Lisa and Pic

04-27-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gumbysuz (Post 3514802)

Thanks, guys, for guiding me to the official suspension rules. I was thinking that if someone could get suspended, then someone fairly new to YT had better be clear as to the rules.

Oh, now that makes sense why you were asking. I know every now and again it is good for me to review the rules.

Mardelin

04-27-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gumbysuz (Post 3514802)

Thanks, guys, for guiding me to the official suspension rules. I was thinking that if someone as respected as Ladyjane could get suspended, then someone fairly new to YT had better be clear as to the rules.

We're all human and discussions can get pretty heated and even the best lose their cool......so, it's best to walk away from the computer when one is angry....

gumbysuz

04-27-2011 08:42 AM

I have seen that YT members are compassionate AND passionate about everything yorkie...so, "walking away" from a heated discussion (however difficult that may be) makes perfect sense.

jencar98

04-27-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gumbysuz (Post 3514802)

Thanks, guys, for guiding me to the official suspension rules. I was thinking that if someone could get suspended, then someone fairly new to YT had better be clear as to the rules.

It has been suggested on another site that YT admin plays favorites and some here can get away with posting whatever they wish.....not true. If anything, this should prove that YT admin is extremely fair in their judgment and no one is exempt from repercussions when a rule is violated. Many times I have typed out a post, "previewed" the post and had to change my words before hitting submit....other times I wish I had!:)

Mardelin

04-27-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gumbysuz (Post 3514845)

I have seen that YT members are compassionate AND passionate about everything yorkie...so, "walking away" from a heated discussion (however difficult that may be) makes perfect sense.

It's been said if one loses their cool, one loses the battle.....It's best to be in a rational state of mind when one is posting.....

My husband has a come back for that really sends me into a tail spin...While I'm screaming and yelling and into my typical latin head....when I'm all done...he'll come back with "Thank You For Sharing That With Me"

megansmomma

04-27-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3514856)

That reminds me of a story about my oldest son Senior year of HS. He and his buddies wanted to drive to Florida for Spring Break and came to me with his plan. Armed with the "fact" he was 18 and could do what he please since he was an adult. I look at him and asked how much money he had saved ($150 :rolleyes:) and instead of arguing I just looked at him "That's a really good idea". It worked so well that it became my across the board response. Worked like a charm every time :D

mscat

04-27-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3514834)

We're all human and discussions can get pretty heated and even the best lose their cool......so, it's best to walk away from the computer when one is angry....

Yes, totally agree. I made the mistake of blowing my top off on my own thread that was started by me. Well I neded help, but only was accused, thentheir were a few die hard yorkie hound dogs that wanted to create trouble in my home town, trying to find me, ect. I used some profanity because I was pushed over the edge, and presto , was suspended.I could see what others were still writing about in my thread still, then wished I had just asked for the thread to be closed before losing my cool.
Honestly, YT is not the same for me anymore, because now nobody cares to respond to my threads or cares about my dogs anymore. Having a bad reputation is just as hard as getting suspended. Even if you had been a donating member, and had been on this site for a long time. It is best to keep your cool and ask for a thread to be closed if if comes too heated you can't handle it anymore.

Wylie's Mom

04-27-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 3515535)

Yes, totally agree. I made the mistake of blowing my top off on my own thread that was started by me. Well I neded help, but only was accused, thentheir were a few die hard yorkie hound dogs that wanted to create trouble in my home town, trying to find me, ect. I used some profanity because I was pushed over the edge, and presto , was suspended.I could see what others were still writing about in my thread still, then wished I had just asked for the thread to be closed before losing my cool.

Honestly, YT is not the same for me anymore, because now nobody cares to respond to my threads or cares about my dogs anymore. Having a bad reputation is just as hard as getting suspended. Even if you had been a donating member, and had been on this site for a long time. It is best to keep your cool and ask for a thread to be closed if if comes too heated you can't handle it anymore.

Hold on there...I care. What am I, chopped liver :p? There are probably more people who care than you think.

We all make mistakes, and I'm sure we're all better people for learning them, hopefully.

Also, sooooooooo many people here, including myself, have said things they wish they hadn't. You're not alone there.

A 'reputation' goes both ways...it can always get better, even if it's been injured...and vice-versa.

Wylie's Mom

04-27-2011 07:22 PM

(Answers in bold)

Being new to YT, I have questions about suspension rules. For what reasons are members suspended? This can't accurately be nutshelled. It could be one single event (attacking a member), or it can be several posts that add up to a suspension. Also, YT always tries to look at a member's situation as more of a whole -- and not just as that individual 'event'. For example, maybe a member's yorkie just died, and they flew off the handle about something...maybe that person deserves a bit of leeway. Can't really answer this as a black and white question...it's more like a gray area, for certain situations.

How long does it last? Usually, the first suspension is 7 days -- other suspensions are often 2 weeks, or 3 weeks. Banning can happen if suspensions continue to be a problem. This is a passionate forum, so we really try to avoid banning so that all different kinds of members can be here. However, when someone goes way too far, it happens. Also, if/when someone is here solely to badger the community, or if they open accounts when previously banned...they are banned immediately.

Can you still post while suspended? No. That would be grounds for being banned.

Is there recourse if you think the suspension is unjustified? Rarely is a decision ever changed, unless there was some obvious mistake like wrong member was suspended (can't think of that having happened though), or creating a double-account wasn't intended, or somehow the wrong button was clicked on our end, or blah blee....that's all I can think of off of the top of my head.

Can admin or a moderator help me out here? Hope that helped a little :).

Lisa and Pic

04-28-2011 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 3515597)

Thank you Ann for answering some of these questions. Also glad that there are some gray areas and not just all black and white when suspending and banning members. Love the compassionate part! :)

gumbysuz

04-28-2011 08:15 AM

Thanks, again, for the helpful commentary and insight. I will wait patiently for "someone" to return to the forum. Maybe I will receive my Cloud 9 Cheetah print bed sooner!:)

FlDebra

04-28-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mscat (Post 3515535)

Ah -- don't worry MsCat! We all love your pups and I am sure no one is purposely not repsonding on your threads! I doubt anyone remembers (well until you just reminded us!) of you being suspended! So many of us have had that happen, it is not a lasting stigma. We just do our time and come back a little more humble and maybe a little more restrained ;)

Sometimes you wind up getting suspended even when you think you shouldn't. I finally decided it was because YT Admin is using common sense and good judgement and not necessarily going by the letter of the law! :D I did push too hard even though I thought I had not out&out broken any rules. It was my sarcastic intent that got me in trouble. IAfter the fact with a cooler head, I can agree but at the time I was stomping my foot! We are all human and can step over the line -- but there is always room for a fresh start here!

We are blessed with this site. I think it is managed better than any other I have belonged to. None of us are defined by one post, one outburst or one event! So, hold your head high, MsCat! We love you!

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