Liver Shunt/MVD

[TLC]

In August I did the BAT for both of them:

Roxy
Pre = 43 and Post 100.9

TJ
Pre = 5 and Post = 43

In Sept. I did a full blood panel on Roxy along with clotting times and urine analysis. We also did an ultrasound. Everything was normal and the u/s showed a normal sized and shape liver.

In Oct. I retested both for CBC and BAT. Both their CBC was normal
Retest BAT were:

Roxy
Pre = 10 and Post = 64

TJ
Pre = 67 and Post = 21.5

At this point, they show NO symptoms of any kind. They are eating a special homemade diet. They get supplements: Hepatosupport, Vetri DMG, Vitamin E, Fish Oil and Egg Shells for Calcium - daily.

I will retest the BAT is 3 months. I do not plan on doing any further testing...unless the BAT go above and beyond.

[Ellie May]

ooooooooooooh. She was on antibiotics. I didn't know that. Yes, that could skew the results. I may have considered waiting also then. What food are you feeding?

[Sharonandtink]

Originally Posted by albister

OM.. i am soo sorry to hear that, my prayers go out to u and ur pup. was this pup from one of ur litter? how was the pup diagnosed? also did the pup have any smptoms at all? i just wated to get other peoples experience and infos on it.

Yes, he was from my litter. Yoda was having problems latching on and eating so he was not growing like the other puppies. He would always latch on and then fall asleep. He was my little narcileptic puppy. Even after feeding him every 2 hours he was still not gaining any weight. So I brought him to the vet and she kept him with her for a little over a week, feeding him every 2 hours and seeing all the doctors that she could. They did ultrasounds and messed with medication. He was too small to have the diagnosis be tested so we were just happy that the medication was stimulating his appeite and he was doing a ton better. We knew that it was a short term thing, but at least he had a great time until it was time to go.

I will be praying for your little guy. Please keep us posted.

[Patti]

My Cali has very mild MVD diagnosed confirmed by a liver biopsy. SHe requires no treatment but is a very laid back dog and has health issues a lot. I am starting her on a holistic regiment of supplements to see if we can get her inbetter health. Good luck

[albister]

Originally Posted by TLC

In August I did the BAT for both of them:

Roxy
Pre = 43 and Post 100.9

TJ
Pre = 5 and Post = 43

In Sept. I did a full blood panel on Roxy along with clotting times and urine analysis. We also did an ultrasound. Everything was normal and the u/s showed a normal sized and shape liver.

In Oct. I retested both for CBC and BAT. Both their CBC was normal
Retest BAT were:

Roxy
Pre = 10 and Post = 64

TJ
Pre = 67 and Post = 21.5

At this point, they show NO symptoms of any kind. They are eating a special homemade diet. They get supplements: Hepatosupport, Vetri DMG, Vitamin E, Fish Oil and Egg Shells for Calcium - daily.

I will retest the BAT is 3 months. I do not plan on doing any further testing...unless the BAT go above and beyond.

o.. its the same supps iam giving i feel like i am going in the right track

[albister]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

ooooooooooooh. She was on antibiotics. I didn't know that. Yes, that could skew the results. I may have considered waiting also then. What food are you feeding?

yes, she was on 3 or 4 different types of anti. she the anti will skrew the results up?? i hope thats what it is (anti) she is getting, just switched, to Natural Bal Vege diet, low protein. is this what u would reccomend?

[Yorkieluv]

Yes, it's possible that antibiotics, vaccinations, flea preventative, heartworm preventative, and any kind of stress to the liver can skew the results. I would wait until everything is out of her system and redo the BATs, so that you're more sure to get an accurate result.

[albister]

Originally Posted by Sharonandtink

Yes, he was from my litter. Yoda was having problems latching on and eating so he was not growing like the other puppies. He would always latch on and then fall asleep. He was my little narcileptic puppy. Even after feeding him every 2 hours he was still not gaining any weight. So I brought him to the vet and she kept him with her for a little over a week, feeding him every 2 hours and seeing all the doctors that she could. They did ultrasounds and messed with medication. He was too small to have the diagnosis be tested so we were just happy that the medication was stimulating his appeite and he was doing a ton better. We knew that it was a short term thing, but at least he had a great time until it was time to go.

I will be praying for your little guy. Please keep us posted.

aww.. preciuos pic i am soo sorry for that again. thank u for ur prayer on my furbaby

[albister]

patti- thank u for ur concern.

[albister]

Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

Yes, it's possible that antibiotics, vaccinations, flea preventative, heartworm preventative, and any kind of stress to the liver can skew the results. I would wait until everything is out of her system and redo the BATs, so that you're more sure to get an accurate result.

do u think 30 days is long enough to wait? should i wait longer? is supp ok for the liver? will the supps effect the BAT at all?

giving: hepatosupport,vetri DMG, and dermcaps

any advise?

[TLC]

The supplements are very good for the liver.

I am not sure if 1 month is long enough. What does your Vet say?

Also, don't give Heartworm or Tick/Flea meds at least 2 or 3 weeks before the BAT.

I held off on Frontline for the entire month. And I waited until after the BAT to give the heartworm.

[Yorkieluv]

30 days is probably fine Those supplements that you mentioned shouldn't skew the results, they are good for the liver if in fact she is liver compromised.

[albister]

Originally Posted by TLC

The supplements are very good for the liver.

I am not sure if 1 month is long enough. What does your Vet say?

Also, don't give Heartworm or Tick/Flea meds at least 2 or 3 weeks before the BAT.

I held off on Frontline for the entire month. And I waited until after the BAT to give the heartworm.

my vet hasnt seen her yet.. she was bought from a pet store, so i have been going to their vet but since i thought the vet didnt know what they were doing-also didnt like the fact that it was related to the pet store-i decided to get a second opinion from a vet that had more knowledge. i spoke to my vet and it sounded like she had some knowledge, so i decided to take her there she did not advise me if i should wait or not

she hasnt gotten any heartworm or tick meds.

she also hasnt gotten all the pup shots, nor rabies

what u think??

[albister]

Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

30 days is probably fine Those supplements that you mentioned shouldn't skew the results, they are good for the liver if in fact she is liver compromised.

ok..

any advise on the previous post, the one i just posted??

[TLC]

Originally Posted by albister

my vet hasnt seen her yet.. she was bought from a pet store, so i have been going to their vet but since i thought the vet didnt know what they were doing-also didnt like the fact that it was related to the pet store-i decided to get a second opinion from a vet that had more knowledge. i spoke to my vet and it sounded like she had some knowledge, so i decided to take her there she did not advise me if i should wait or not

she hasnt gotten any heartworm or tick meds.

she also hasnt gotten all the pup shots, nor rabies

what u think??

So, who did the BAT? The Petstore Vet or Your Vet? Has Your Vet actually seen the pup yet?