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Old 07-06-2007, 09:49 AM   #46
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I smelled broker all over this one after you said they lived in Las Vegas and got different sized pups from Arkansas.

Hon, I've never been guided in the wrong direction from folks on this site.

I hope your baby gets better, and please, listen to the folks helping you here, they can tell you how to recoop some of your money at least. And how to get these folks selling sick dogs busted!

Nobody deserves to get a sick pup! Thats just not "good business".

You need to work fast, sometimes these folks can be here one day, and poof a week from now (probably gone to get another litter or 5).

I'm sure you may have never heard of a broker. They buy many litters at a time, dirt cheap, usually from puppy mills, for a set price per litter, have them shipped whatever way they can (usually certainly not how you'd want your dog to travel) to them, then sell them for a fat profit. Many of the pups are sick before they get them, and those that weren't, got sick from being shipped with so many other sick puppies.

Brokers usually have no clue on how to take care of sick puppies. All they see in $$$$ in their pockets. Thats why they constantly on the phone asking the breeder. I'm sure the breeder could care less, if they are puppy mills, and already have their $$'s for the litter. Sometimes, they get many puppies from different mills, and ship them in small cages, with all puppies piled on top of each other many miles across the country. If even one pup is sick, under those conditions, they all get sick.

I know you love Baby, and will do what you have to to get her well. I hope you get what you deserve, a healthy baby, and most of what you spend on vet bills back. God bless you and good luck with this!

Thanks for that. As I've mentioned before I didn't know much about all of this before I decided to get my two puppies. One is a larger Pomeranian named Fuzzy and then offcoarse my Yorkie, Baby. Most of, if not all, of what you wrote is more likley true. I feel that it's my fault also for not doing my homework right. Actually I had read up on it and thought I was ready for it but once I got to the house and saw Baby I just got blinded and didn't care that the papers weren't there nor what my insticts said. Most the puppies looked sick to me and I told them that too but they said it was nap time and I ignored my instinct and just wanted this little girl who actually was one of the few that didn't look sick to me. Anyway, I'm in the situation now and have to deal with it. They haven't straight out offered to pay for vet bills but at the same time they are not just ignoring me and not answering my calls and listening to what I have to say either so I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. I notice they lie her and there which makes me totally loose faith and respect but I guess they know they have messed up and can be in trouble and they are trying to fix it. I thought about them maybe taking off or something but feel that it would be so stupid of them. I have 2 addresses of theirs, one that I've been to many times and their cell phone number and their son's number. It just would be too stupid of them. Anyway, I know now the shot records exist, I did see it yesterday and am suppose to get a copy of it today so that's good at least.
The most important thing is that Baby is doing great, thank God. She is a bad little girl that keeps biting on my other poor dog. She is so hyper it's crazy. She just makes me smile constantly with her cute little face, wiggling little tail and jumping legs! :-) I keep praying she will be completley fine and that the cough will dissapear forver. I am taking her to a different vet tomorrow for check up. It appears as though based on the research I've done on-line that she is in the stable phase of pneumonia. She is hyper and have a good appetite and that's great!
Both the dogs have been sneezing a lot and the vet said it is just allergy to something and nothing to worry about but as I've mentioned, I don't trust that vet, and have to ask the other vet tomorrow. They both sneeze, a few times a day at least!
Well this is getting to be a long post so let me finish before you fall asleep.:-)
Once again, Baby is doing great right now and I hope that is the route it will continue going! :-)
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:52 AM   #47
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Great Link! I've been to this site before and had forgot about it.

Thanks!
That was a great link! It made me feel a little calmer too since Baby would fit the stable stage of Pneumonia. She is doing great right now. :-)
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Hun I think everytime you send your puppy back there you are exposing it to who knows what. They dont know enough about dogs to be treating them for anything. THey dont even know the names of the medications. Something that starts with A?????? Geez, what do they know about giving breathing treatments or anything else besides selling sick puppies and taking your money. That is what their job is and they dont know anything about the rest of it. When you dropped her off, did you see the rest of the dogs and how they lived or anything. That is just scary and if I were you I would cut my losses with them and run.
They had 12 of them when I first got Baby but they sold them all. I believe one person brought one of the puppies back because of the cough and they have her right now and treating her with breathing treatments also. Not sure if the people that bought her are getting her back or not. The house where the puppies were is not where they live now. They are renting a house and I've been in there several times and it looks clean. I saw the breathing treatment section also and it was exactly the way the vet said it would be. No, they sure don't know much about dogs and are following the breeders directions, that's obvious and they haven't tried to hide that. I am going to ask the vet about all of this tomorrow when I take her in for a third opinion. She is doing great right now though. She is jumping around and playing with Fuzzy, my Pom. That's how I like it! :-)
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Samantha...How's Baby? Praying that you get the help you need, and that she can get better. You've been given some very useful advise here...and I'm sure there is more to come...Keep the faith...love your Baby!!! Do not under any circumstances take her back there...they are not helping you or Baby. Report them to the proper authorities...They don't have to know it was you, so don't feel guilty...They do not care about anything but the money...remember that!!! Get Baby checked out by a reputable vet soon...I'm sure she requires additional treatment, who knows what she was exposed to over and over again. How old is your Baby? When did you get her? My Winston and I both hope Baby will get well soon...she deserves to be taken care of, so she can live the happy life that you want for her...Bless you and Baby.
Baby was born April 6th. I got her June 15th. She is doing great right now. Playful as can be. Lol, she is so crazy! :-)
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How's Baby today? Do you have any other photos of her? Would love to see them.
Good morning! She is doing great Judy! I'm so happy and hope it will continue this way! She is acting crazy right now running around and wiggling her little booty, :-). No coughing for a day now. I'm sure it's not completley gone but it sure sounds soooo much better. I do have tons of pictures :-), not sure if they are too big to put on here or not though. If you have an email address I can email you some.

How's Gizmo and how old is he?

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Good morning! She is doing great Judy! I'm so happy and hope it will continue this way! She is acting crazy right now running around and wiggling her little booty, :-). No coughing for a day now. I'm sure it's not completley gone but it sure sounds soooo much better. I do have tons of pictures :-), not sure if they are too big to put on here or not though. If you have an email address I can email you some.

How's Gizmo and how old is he?

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Gizmo is doing really well. He is about a month older than Baby. His birthday is 3/9/07. We still have to keep him away from other pets and people right now because he has to have another set of shots around the 15th of this month. I will pm you my email address and you may send pics to me. I can post Baby's pics on here for you if you like.

Samantha, I am so glad that Baby is doing better!

I am very worried for you though. It sounds like they don't have any puppies left (that they can sell), so they might take off at any minute to get more puppies. I know you feel confident that they won't move, but you really never know. If Baby is doing so much better, I suggest you stop taking her to them for breathing treatments. Still keep trying to get the shot records if you've seen them, but you might want to forget about the AKC papers. Maybe someone on here knows more about this than I do, but I doubt that such a "breeder" or puppy miller will be able to provide those to your broker.

About the shot records. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how much use they will be anyway if they were given (or documented) by the "breeder" rather than a vet.

It's great to hear from you!



I am very glad that you plan to see a new vet tomorrow! Great! Let us know how it goes.
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Gizmo is doing really well. He is about a month older than Baby. His birthday is 3/9/07. We still have to keep him away from other pets and people right now because he has to have another set of shots around the 15th of this month. I will pm you my email address and you may send pics to me. I can post Baby's pics on here for you if you like.

Samantha, I am so glad that Baby is doing better!

I am very worried for you though. It sounds like they don't have any puppies left (that they can sell), so they might take off at any minute to get more puppies. I know you feel confident that they won't move, but you really never know. If Baby is doing so much better, I suggest you stop taking her to them for breathing treatments. Still keep trying to get the shot records if you've seen them, but you might want to forget about the AKC papers. Maybe someone on here knows more about this than I do, but I doubt that such a "breeder" or puppy miller will be able to provide those to your broker.

About the shot records. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how much use they will be anyway if they were given (or documented) by the "breeder" rather than a vet.

It's great to hear from you!



I am very glad that you plan to see a new vet tomorrow! Great! Let us know how it goes.


I personally would prefer having the shots done from the beginning from the vet unless it's not good for her so I want to show the vet the paper and see what he sais. She was microchipped when I got her and that was the true,
:-). They have a fax of the registration but I just haven't care for getting the fax since I want the originall. Me and my husband have doubted the existence of the registration at time too but we'll see I guess. I made it clear it was important that she was registered if I was going to pay that much for her and the lady swore on the bible she is so we'll see. I mean as long as she is fine I'll get over the registration if that's what it comes to. I've learned my lesson to do my homework, that's for sure!
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Oh Baby sweetie...you are a precious little thing!!! So glad she's starting to feel better, be sure to keep us updated as to what the new vet thinks...and how long she'll need treatment.
Yes I would ask the vet if it would be ok to start over with her shots, even if she really did have them...I'd be a little leary...as to how true the shot record is...I certainly hope everything turns out fine for you and Baby, we've been very concerned, and worried for her and you also...Take care, give Baby an extra kiss today from me and Winston!!!
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I found out my little puppy has pneumonia. They thought it was kennel cough at first. Any advice on how serious this is? She is playful and eats. Coughing sounds better; she only coughs a few times a day now. I am so worried about her and do not want to give her back for another puppy. She was sick when I got her from the seller. They are giving her breathing treatments right now and hopefully that will help and is on AB. Not sure what to do from there on.... When do you know that the pneumonia is gone?
Thank you! She has an appointment on Monday. I'll keep you guys posted to what they say. :-)
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Thanks for the update. I'm very glad to hear about the new vet on Monday.
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Have you guys ever heard you puppy have a "hick up"? I'm not sure if dogs get that but I've heard her make a sound that sounds just like humans do when we have hick ups. lol. Sounds funny; I thought I'd check...:-)
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Have you guys ever heard you puppy have a "hick up"? I'm not sure if dogs get that but I've heard her make a sound that sounds just like humans do when we have hick ups. lol. Sounds funny; I thought I'd check...:-)
I hope this is normal because Gizmo does this at least once a day, usually when he's been playing. It doesn't seem to bother him that much.
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Have you guys ever heard you puppy have a "hick up"? I'm not sure if dogs get that but I've heard her make a sound that sounds just like humans do when we have hick ups. lol. Sounds funny; I thought I'd check...:-)
It is Very normal

A puppy with the hiccups is a funny thing to watch! The hiccups are a very common occurrence in younger dogs. They do not hurt the animal and will eventually subside. As puppies grow hiccup episodes happen less frequently, but occasionally an adult dog will also get the hiccups. When I Puppy gets the Hiccups we always say they are growing


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Hiccups in dogs, just as in people, are caused when a spasm of the muscular diaphragm creates a sudden inhalation followed by a closure of the glottis (a slender space separating the vocal cords). The triggering mechanism is poorly understood, and a number of events may be able to initiate the process. Diet is not known to be a cause, although there may be a connection for an individual pet. While hiccups can be a nuisance, they do not cause injury or disease and are self-limiting. In the next several months, your puppy will be growing and undergoing rapid physical changes that will, with luck, eliminate the hiccup problem very soon.
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