help PLEASE..
 

My lil girl Avery is 8 weeks old. We have been training her on the pee pads, she has always hesitated to go poop on the pads.. and it takes her a really long time to actually go. Her stool has been fine though, and she has been eating regularly. She pooped a little more than often late last night but only a little bit at a time.. She woke up normal time this morning and wanted to get up and play.. i fixed her food.. but she hasnt eaten much AT ALL. only like a bite or two this whole day.. i gave her some of the 'super cal' i was given by the breeder(which i always mix with her food). She then went to the bathroom (poop) again, on the pad(FINALLY after much looking around and hesitance!!) Her stool was normal at first then the last little bit was a clearish liquid and a yellowish clear color.-almost like a can of peaches would look-sorry to be so graphic but that is all i could describe it as) I am worried, very worried!! she has only had one set of shots.. that the breeder has given her-ANY HELP!??? The only other things we have been giving her is little pieces of puppy treats when she goes "potty". And Tim gave her a piece of Captain Crunch Cereal yesterday. ????? She is playing right now though.. which is good. but all earlier was tired and slept alot. hopefully she will start eating.

She is really young. Did you just get her?? Have you changed her food at all that can upset their stomach and bowels?

no!! we haven't. i was planning on switching her to dry food soon.. but i have not started at all.

When you do the switch do it gradually that will help. I dont know why the yellow liquid poop though sometimes puppies bowels get messed up I would just keep an eye on it and if it continues take him to the vet

yeah. i am going to watch her and see what the poop looks like. thanks.

That orange stuff is mucus. My TJ used to get that. He would wake up and I knew he didn't feel good. There were these really loud girgurling noises come from his little body. He would not eat or drink. When he was finally able to poop (could be anywhere from 1/2 hour to 10 hours later), his poop would start out being normal and then the glob of orange mucus. After this came out, he was better and would literally run to go eat.

My guess is that the piece of Captin Crunch didn't agree with her system. My advice is to keep it simple for the next few weeks. Let her get a little older, b/c 8 weeks is extremely young, then you can start to give her other health things.

If this mucus continues, try feeding some Brown Rice and Boiled Chicken until her digestive track calms down.

If you need anything else, just ask, I'll try to help you.

P.S. If you see blood in that mucus - bring her to the Vet ASAP ;)

oh ok. thank you so much. i am worried. She did eat a little bit after she went to the bathroom.. and then played for a little while as well. now she is sleeping(basically what she has been doing ALL day!!)

yeah i got mad at Tim for giving her that cereal-haha. but i hope that is what the problem is. it just didn't look right AT ALL-and i googled it and..giardia and coccidiai came up. There was no blood-but i just hope she is ok. i would love any other info you could give me thanks so much!! <3

Your baby won't necessarily have blood in her poop with coccidia. My baby had a severe case of coccidia when he was a pup, and he did not have blood in his poop that I can remember. The coccidia made him extremely sick and caused him to have really bad hypoglycemic attacks.

yeah i know..that is what i read. as soon as Tim gets home we are going to take her to get a check up.. i have her stool sample from earlier. so i am going to bring it with me and have it checked. Are there any other symptoms that your puppy had??

FYI - it took my sister and her silky a couple of poop samples for the coccidia to show up. the fresher the poop the better :p

Yep, TLC makes a really good point. Sometimes it takes a few fecal tests for the vet to actually see the coccidia.

i took her for a check-up exam and everything seemed to be fine-he said. Avery is playing and has been eating alot-which is great. I knew she hadn't been de-wormed yet-so i did the first of two today. but the stool still was really weird to me. anyways. i will keep you posted and we will see how tomorrow goes and if she does the same thing next time she goes poop. thanks for all your responses. <3

Ok. like i said in my earlier post we went to the vet and she was dewormed. He didnt look at the stool sample i brought completely it was still in one of the baggies and napkin-he just saw the part that had come trhough the napkin. (which didn't satisfy me). anyways.. he dewormed her and tonight she went to the bathroom and she had worms in her stool. Is this normal for the de-worming, since she had never been dewormed before?? i know i am supposed to go back in 2 weeks for another deworming.. but does she need to be put on any other meds?? im calling the vet in the morning but just wondering if anyone could help and give me some more info on worms. Please! THANKS.

-should i tell the lady we got her from.. should she pay for it? since she didnt do it before?? and plus she has kids and stuff around the house-who knows where she got it?? kinda bothered about that-how should i approach it?? any advice would be great.

Well at least you know what it is now. I would call and tell the vet she still has worms in her stool. When Chachi had them it just took one treatment to get rid of them. You can ask to breeder with some help wth the vet bills but alot of times they wont help with things like this but you can try

can you go to a pet store and just buy dewormer medication or is it too late at this point? this would be a lot less expensive

i dont know. i really dont know much about this. i have been trying to do my research. I just know her stool looked yesterday. we then took her to the vet. he quickly chekced her-looked in her eyes, weight, temp, and then he dewormed her cuz she hadn't been. So is this why she is now pooping out the worms?

oh and another question.. i was going to start switching her over to the dry food-should i wait until she passes all the worms?? (after the 2 weeks and i deworm her again)??

Well, I would call the Vet today. If he is not available at the moment, leave a message for him to call you back. They usually make their calls in the PM.

Tell the Vet about all the worms that can out. Ask if this is normal? Ask if they will continue to come out? Tell him you want to know everything about what is happening and what you should do.

As far as the food, what food are you feeding now? What food do you want to start to feed?

ok. yeah Tim is planning on calling on his way to work right now. Im also thinking about calling my mother in laws vet though.. she used to go to the guy we went to before but no longer does. i am really unhappy with how we was yesterday.. he was so quick, brief, and didnt even look at her stool thoroughly. We are going to call him and also i need to go get her shots this weekend.. (they said any shots before 8 weeks are not accounted for because they are too young and dont affect them anymore?) so i need to get those done as well. I am just worried cuz she was kinda coughing a couple times last night.. i dont want something further to be wrong or the worms to be too much.. cuz she is just so little ya know?? sorry if i am going on and on i just want to get any advice from people who know what they are talking about and actually care!! so thanks for your replies!! But i was thinking about calling the other vet(new) and setting up a more thorough exam/check-up and let her know what has been going on.. just ot get a better piece of mind and to stop something completely before it gets worse.

Oh and i was given IAMS wet puppy chicken and rice food which i have been giving her along with a little 'super-cal' she gave me. We have also been giving her little pieces of puppy treats that i have softened with water for when she goes "potty". But i have been told Eukanuba by a few people and that is what i bought-puppy small breed Eukanuba. I was planning on gradually giving that to her.. soften it with water and mix it with the wet while everyday using less and less wet food? but not sure when i should start this due to the worms?? -yuck. poor lil baby. i feel bad cuz i know she feels so gross alot of the time.

Sounds like a plan - maybe a new Vet would be better.

As far as the food, I am sorry to say, but both Iams and Euk. are extremley poor quality foods.

Check out this site:
www.dogfoodanalysis.com

You want to go with a 5 or 4 star rated food. (6 stars have to much protein, not good for our little ones).

Iams and Euk are both rated 1 star :thumbdown

My rule is: NO CORN (in any form of text) and NO By-PRODUCTS (in any form of text).

Personally, I am feeding a Raw Frozen Diet - but that's not for everyone.

However, I do still leave a hard kibble down and my choice for that now is:
www.canidae.com

also.. where we got the puppy was from a local lady whos yorkie had puppies. she is not a breeder but seemed to have done her research for raising the little newborn puppies from birth- she has the parents two very small yorkies.. and one other bigger (yet still small breed) of dog-not sure the kind. anyways.. she has 3 kids and has them and there friends in and out of the house. (my mother in law-when she purchased her australian shepard-1and a half years ago, said she had to take of her shoes off before entering where the puppies were or clean them with something special(something like that..) because they could be tracking in parvo. I know the kids and others were around the dogs and who knows what they brought in. She was kept with her brother and sister and always had food, water, comfort, and lots of love..just dont know what her small little body was exposed to without it being known to be a threat to them. When we came to pick her up she was outside on the grass with her mom(yorkie) saying bye and such.. which kinda weirded me out-rolling around in the grass next door?? (i just am putting everything out there on how we got her, etc.) The lady is really nice and i know has done her research and cares alot about the puppies, but does not know EVERYTHING(im sure) about raising the little puppies from birth. kids in and out, etc. Am i being too paranoid? better to be safe than sorry- i am just afraid of something happening to her all of a sudden-like i have heard happening to other tiny yorkie puppies before. Also.. Pet insurance-if you have it-about how much does it cost? im probably annoying you sorry. thanks again though.

The food situation.. I know IAMS was kind of yuck. It definately would not have been my choice of food. but i didnt want to just stop using what she was used to.. so i was planning on changing her over and i was going to start today. I did hear the positive and the negative about the Eukanuba.. the poistive i heard was good though?? but i did just find out about the by-products.. and that is no good-grosses me out thinking about it. and i know corn isnt good for them. do you know where they sell the canidae?? (you like this?? and it is easy for them to chew/swallow??)

AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INFO!! very nice. :kiss2:

I am glad that you are explaining everything, maybe write it all down, so if symtoms start to appear, you and the Vet can figure it out.
I agree with you about the kids, germ, and playing outsite before all shots and deworming :rolleyes: But you have her now and you will take care of her.

Back to food. I would never eat By-Products myself, ever! Therefore, I would never feed them to my kids (yorkies of course).

Canidae is a small flat disc like hard kibble. Yes, it is easy to chew, she will have no problems. Go to the site and look up where it is in your location. It is also for all life stages, so it is good for pups and adult, no need to change foods. I think you will be very happy with Canidae and so will she :)

thanks alot. i appreciate your advice. have a nice weekend. and keep in touch. (any info/advice is always appreciated too!!)

how big is your little one? how old? :)

Here are two places that carry Canidae
Furry Friends Grooming
714 793-9220
19815 Esperanza Rd
Yorba Linda, CA 92886


Yorba Linda Feed
714 524-3222
3782 Rose Drive
Yorba Linda, CA 92886


Roxy (5 lbs.) and TJ (6.8 lbs) are both 2.5 years old.

i just found that. thanks!! chicken and rice?? or the regular-do you reccomend??

I have the CANIDAE® PLATINUM - b/c mine are a tiny bit over weight.

The All Stages sound good to me though ;)

Hi Meg! I just sent you a PM. I too live in Yorba Linda with Hubby and 2 Yorkies, Mango and Spanky. The recommendation that TLC gave you about Canidae is a good one. You can get it at Yorba Linda Feed, which is probably closest to you. It is situated on Rose Drive, very close to Imperial Hwy. Another excellent choice is the Evangers brand, which has a smaller kibble than the Canidae; they too make an "All Life Stages" food. It gets the same super-healthy rating as the Canidae. Mango is on this one, and loves the Pheasant and Brown Rice flavor. I did try the Canidae, but she would not touch it. If you go to the Feed Store, I know they got a new supply in this past Thursday; they also have free samples of the Evangers available, in various flavors.

I can also tell you about the vet I take my babies too. He is like an old-fashioned "small-town" Doctor; will always come to the phone when I call, has come out during Thanksgiving Dinner, one year, when my Yorkie was ill!
Let me know what I can do to help; we are "neighbors" after all.:D
Lauren

Oops! One more thought. Your baby is VERY young, perhaps too young to be on dry kibble? Mango, at that age (she was still at the breeder), was on canned puppy food, mixed with a little Goat's milk and cottage cheese. The dry kibble was left on the side as a "snack", but not the main course.
Also as far as treats go, there is a healthy "people" alternative recommended by my breeder, and that is Honey Nut Cheerios. I used only those as treats when I was potty training Mango.:)

Hi. I bought some Canidae dry food. and i have been softening it in water, then adding it to the IAMS food she is used to. I was gradually going to add more and more of the Candiae and remove the IAMS slowly. She seems to really like the new food.. she kinda looks for it and digs it out of the wet food. :) I also have been giving her little bits of the dry food (softened) as a treat after she goes "potty" as well. But mainly i have been giving her Nutro MAX puppy drumsticks and breaking them into much smaller pieces. but i heard about honey nut cheerios was good so i think i'll pick some up and use that. She has kind of been scratching alot and i think her skin might be kind of dry, also her eyes have been watery so i am assuming that both of these things are maybe from allergies. so i will see what the change in food does for her.

Also she had a crazy night last night/this morning pooping very often(not runny or anything-solid, which is good) but we did trim all around her butt area.. and i think she may have been constipated. i just worry because she did get dewormed on thursday-and had roundworm in her stool. she hasn't been pooping them out today or really at all yesterday so i think the majority of the ones that had grown are out.. when we go back for another deworming in about a week and a half she will probably pass more. Is this all that needs to be done to take care of the worms?? or should i be giving her something else in between the first deworming and the next one??
THANKS. :lovewings

captian crunch
 

IS THIS CORN?????
I know lots of yorkies cant take corn.... I had same things with Tede-Bare
alway stomach stuff... no corn in any of his stuff... just a thought.
I hope things are o.k. now.
This is hard ,they are so small. we try to to everything right. but we learn as we go... I am having lots of tuff times. but if I would of read this site before my problem ,I would not had so much trouble.. my thing now is surfing the whole site to get KNOWledge..from people experiance
julie
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