Thor ate Roach Killer
 

Here we go again...I hate having to post here. Anyone have any clue what to do? Should I force throw-up? He's acting fine, and I don't know how much of the little container he ate. It says there's no first aide once ingested, just tell warning signs of poisoning!:eek:

No help to offer, but I sure hope he is alright.

My first instinct is call the vet! I don't know anything about poisoning, and I'd want a vet to tell me what to do.

My suggestion is to induce throw up.

To my knowledge, side effects usually do not show until its is fully digested and in their system. If you call posion control, they will charge you $55.00 which I suggest you should do. If you need instructions to induce vomit, I have it straight from the posion control them selves sicne I called them 3 days ago.

If yu have a vet available to call, call them if not, I wouldn't take anychances and induce the vomit.

I'll PM my number if you need to call.

I wouldn't wait too long on this one...I probably wouldn't induce vomiting either unless your vet tells you...sometimes it can be a worse sitituation coming than going down.

hurry to the vet..I hope hes okay!!

Induce vomiting by giving hydrogen peroxide as quickly as possible even before taking to vet, time is important - 1 tsp for a 6 - 10 pound dog. Give food first (peanut butter 2 tsp). If no vomiting, then repeat in 15 minutes. Here is a link.

http://www.dog.com/vet/holidays/02.asp

The roach killer I have says to induce vomiting - do a search on your brand's active ingredient with the word ingestion. Roach killer is not caustic show it should be fine to induce vomiting.

These are substances that you would NOT want to induce vomiting if ingested.
List of Caustic Chemicals and Substances
Battery Acid
Bleach
Carbolic Acid
Motor Oil
Drain Cleaner
Fertilizer
Glue
Household Cleaners
Kerosene
Laundry Detergent
Turpentine
Plaster
Sidewalk Salt
Putty
Pine Cleaners
Paintbrush Cleaner
Nail Polish
Nail Polish Remover
Paint Thinner

Thanks to you all! What a great list, very informative. He is so far, so good. We are keeping a close eye on him, and he's acting normal. Thanks guys.

oh no !! I have a 24 hour vet you can call... they're GREAT to talk to and will tell you what you need to do - want me to call them ?? They need the ingredients - or I can send you the number and you can call direct

Please call a vet as Villette said. I had two eat rat poison, (a packet in a box with electrical fixtures) and called emergency. We rushed them there and they pumped their stomachs not induced vomiting because it was an industrial poison not sold retail. The emergency vet told me one had eaten more then the other.They were followed up afterwards with several vet visits. They were fortunate that they had no lasting effects from it because of quick action. They didn't act sick but when I found the inch square plastic packet but I knew it was lethal.
Jessica

OMG:eek: Did you induce vomiting? I hope he'll be okay!

Thinking of you guys.

Oh no Hannah! I hope little Thor man is ok!!

I would rush him to the vet ASAP

They also might recommend eating charcoal (a special kind not the grill type) which will absorb toxins. I really think you need to take him in too.

Oh no! I hope he feels better and he's okay:( :)

I agree, Hannah. If he ate poison, the effects may not show up right away. I sure hope little Thor is alright! :(

Get to the vet. Mine told me it can take up to 8 days to see affects and then it might not be a good outcome.

Unless it is an older roach product (which would contain arsenic) you are probably dealing with the poison Phosphorus:

PHOSPHORUS

Clinical signs:

Vomiting and diarrhea with a garlic odor to the breath and vomitus, abdominal pain, bleeding, shock and death all occur.

Treatment:

Vomiting should be induced if possible, followed by pumping and flushing the stomach and administering medication to neutralize the phosphorus, and mineral oil to coat the stomach. IV dextrose is also useful in most patients.

It could also be Borate, Boron or Boratic acid:

Clinical signs Signs include ptyalism, diarrhea, abdominal pain, rebound cranial abdominal tenderness, ataxia, hyperesthesia, tremors, muscle weakness, metabolic acidosis, seizures, coma, and death. Mild hyperthermia, shock, disseminated intravascular coagulation, and Cheyne-Stokes respiration occur.

Treatment Emesis or gastric lavage should be induced if ingestion occurred within 2 hours. Although borates are poorly adsorbed by activated charcoal, it is commonly recommended (in addition to adminstration of a cathartic). To be effective in removing borates from a patient, activated charcoal would have to be administered in dosages 5 to 10 times normal recommendations. This clinically impractical. The use of activated charcoal in patients known to have ingested borates is therefore not recommended. Persistent vomiting and seizures are controlled as needed. Hemodialysis is known to be effective in humans and should be considered in pets.

Signs

Salivation
Diarrhea, possibly bloody
Abdominal pain
Rebound cranial abdominal tenderness
Ataxia
Hyperesthesia
Tremors
Muscle weakness
Seizures
Coma
Mild hyperthermia
Shock
Disseminated intravascular coagulation
Cheyne-Stokes respiration
Death

EMERGENCY TREATMENT

Procedures

1. Secure the airway and ventilate as necessary.
2. Administer supplemental oxygen.
3. Secure venous access. Collect blood and urine for laboratory testing.
4. Control seizures.
5. Treat hyperthermia if present.
6. Administer crystalloids fluids to maintain perfusion and blood pressure.

Decontaminate

GI EXPOSURE (INGESTION)

Induce emesis if recent ingestion and if signs are not present.

Gastric lavage if signs are present after ingestion (p. 52).

Administcr saline cathartic unless diarrhea already present.

I will be praying for Thor! Good luck!

Just came on and saw this, Hannah. I really hope he'll be fine.

I tossed and turned all night thinking of you and your baby:( I hope he's okay, please let us know.

Thanks:love:

How is Thor Doing? OMG I hope he is ok. I'll Keep praying for him!

How is Thor doing today?

how is Thor doing? What did the vet say? Thinking of you .... hope all is well.

Thanks for everyones good advise. We watched Thor closely last night and he's been fine today too. The brand he ate was Combat...my BF made a call and did some research and told me that he should be fine. And, he's been fine. Still really scary. I hide it under a chair in my sisters room, and when she came back from college for Tgiving...it must have gotten moved. Anyways,
thanks

ps, apparently, the ingredients in the combat are the same used in some tick and flea meds...maybe he'll be REALLY free of ticks this month!:rolleyes:

That's good to hear, whew! I'm sure that you are very tired today and I hope that you can get some much deserved rest!

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thats really good news! keep it outa reach besides if you have a rodent problem thor and harry can track em for ya :)