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Wylie's Mom 05-04-2017 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GRH (Post 4720411)
I had Izzie to UT yesterday. They ran several tests, did X-rays and blood work. They don't think it is collapsed trachea but can't rule totally out at this time. The X-ray of her trachea looked good along with everything else. They sent me home with a 14 day wormer and said could possibly be lung parasites. I really don't think that could be it but will try it. If she doesn't get any better in 14 days the next step is to do a bronchoscope and wash. I still feel it was caused by the bordetella oral vaccine. I gave her the anti-vaccinosis for 2 days and am hopeful that will help.

The UT doctors will probably call me today and I am going to discuss with her the side effects of the vaccine and ask them to call the company that produces it. I hope it is not something she has to live with the rest of her life. I looked up the side effects and she has all of them except lethargy. She WILL never get the bordetella vaccine again!
SO glad you went to UT. It's your best chance of getting the correct answer here.

I hope the answer comes sooner than later. It can be a bit of journey w/ stuff such as this, so try to patient...I know you want an answer asap. I would too.

And lastly, go with your gut and keep pushing to explore vaccinosis if you think it's that. You could very well be correct!

Keep us posted, would love to hear that she is eventually doing better. :)

GRH 05-05-2017 07:32 AM
Anti-vaccinosis
 
I gave Izzie the anti-vaccinosis the day before we went to UT. I didn't realize I would get an appointment that soon. So after we got the results that afternoon, I brought her home and gave her the second dose of the anti-vaccinosis. They say only give 2 days. Would you believe she got up and for the first time in
1 1/2 months she didn't do it. I was ecstatic, however, she got up and did it this morning but not nearly as bad. I do not know what tomorrow will bring. I'm still hopeful especially since they don't think it is collapsed trachea.

Wylie's Mom 05-06-2017 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GRH (Post 4720890)
I gave Izzie the anti-vaccinosis the day before we went to UT. I didn't realize I would get an appointment that soon. So after we got the results that afternoon, I brought her home and gave her the second dose of the anti-vaccinosis. They say only give 2 days. Would you believe she got up and for the first time in
1 1/2 months she didn't do it. I was ecstatic, however, she got up and did it this morning but not nearly as bad. I do not know what tomorrow will bring. I'm still hopeful especially since they don't think it is collapsed trachea.
All our fingers and paws crossed for a healthy Izzie :)!

GRH 05-06-2017 10:36 AM
Thank you so much!

GRH 08-05-2017 04:17 AM
I haven't been on in quite a long time but wanted it inform those that had read my posts about my little Izzie. UT proved she did not have collapsed trachea and they did a bronchoscopy on her. She got pneumonia and was in the hospital for several days and almost died. The culture proved it was the bordetella bacteria. I was right all along. The Doctor at UT thinks that when they gave her the oral vaccine after surgery she aspirated it. She has been on antibiotics for so long but still can't get rid of it. She goes back to UT next week for another procedure (trachea wash) to culture. I am so worried that she will never get over. The oral vaccine is a modified live virus. How I wish that I had not let them give it to her.

Silver Lace 08-05-2017 07:05 AM
Thank you so very much for informing us about Izzie. That was so kind of you to keep us up to date on her situation. Now you are certain of your suspicions and that must be of some help to know it. I am so sure you wish it had never been given to her. I am so sorry this had to happen to her and you and I hope this will come out to the best for her. If you are able please let us know her future results on this. Bless you and her.

GRH 08-05-2017 12:41 PM
Thank you. I will know you know what else we find.

ladyjane 08-05-2017 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GRH (Post 4735087)
I haven't been on in quite a long time but wanted it inform those that had read my posts about my little Izzie. UT proved she did not have collapsed trachea and they did a bronchoscopy on her. She got pneumonia and was in the hospital for several days and almost died. The culture proved it was the bordetella bacteria. I was right all along. The Doctor at UT thinks that when they gave her the oral vaccine after surgery she aspirated it. She has been on antibiotics for so long but still can't get rid of it. She goes back to UT next week for another procedure (trachea wash) to culture. I am so worried that she will never get over. The oral vaccine is a modified live virus. How I wish that I had not let them give it to her.
Poor baby. Hopefully after the culture they will get her on an antibiotic that will work for it. Sometimes these things can be resistant.

Doodlebug 08-05-2017 01:45 PM
Are you talking about the stuff the squirt in their noses? Is there an oral version too? Or are you talking about the nasal stuff? Is it better to get the shot for bordatella? This is so scary i don't ever want to go through that.

Lovetodream88 08-05-2017 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Doodlebug (Post 4735117)
Are you talking about the stuff the squirt in their noses? Is there an oral version too? Or are you talking about the nasal stuff? Is it better to get the shot for bordatella? This is so scary i don't ever want to go through that.
I have done the nasal one for 10 years on my older girl, I did it for 5 years on my moms yorkie before he passed and then Joey who is one has had it twice and Penny has had it once and never had any issues. I will continue to do it because my dogs go out a lot and to dog events and we have had no issues.

TxVicki 08-05-2017 03:17 PM
I continue give Allie her bordetella vaccine, BUT she get's the injectable one. Have never had a problem with it.

GRH 08-06-2017 05:50 PM
Yes there are 3 kinds, the nasal, the oral and the shots. Bronco-Shield created an oral one in 2012. Izzie got the oral one. She had just had her spaying and they gave it to her which was the first mistake. You are not supposed to give it if they are sick. After surgery is a weakened condition and she weighed less than 3 pounds. The UT doctor thinks she aspirated the vaccination and it went into her lungs. After hearing that I googled aspiration of oral bordetella vaccination and found someone that it happened to and it was a husky and after a year it still had the exact same symptoms as Izzie. If I can get her well, she will never get it again.

Lovetodream88 08-06-2017 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GRH (Post 4735192)
Yes there are 3 kinds, the nasal, the oral and the shots. Bronco-Shield created an oral one in 2012. Izzie got the oral one. She had just had her spaying and they gave it to her which was the first mistake. You are not supposed to give it if they are sick. After surgery is a weakened condition and she weighed less than 3 pounds. The UT doctor thinks she aspirated the vaccination and it went into her lungs. After hearing that I googled aspiration of oral bordetella vaccination and found someone that it happened to and it was a husky and after a year it still had the exact same symptoms as Izzie. If I can get her well, she will never get it again.
Yeah that is always the risk of any oral meds, vaccines or even syringe feeding water or food.


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