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paolaRN 01-28-2014 08:13 AM
Diarrhea Help
 
So My baby has diarrhea, more loose stool than watery, since last night I'm not really sure what's going on I didn't change his diet I'm assuming he might've ate something off the floor or something outside is there anything I can give him to help relieve it??? Some of it last night was slimy too :(

Deb1 01-28-2014 08:16 AM
Try a little pumpkin.....otherwise, if it continues, please take him to the vet!

rubymoon2072 01-28-2014 09:21 AM
your sure he didnt pass something from his anal sac?? sometimes they pass what builds up in there on their own...I have two that do on their own and one who needs to go to the vet when she scoots as she will not pass it on her own. cedric usually will have a lil slimy loose type of stool when it happens. but the smell is different so I know that's where it came from. just a thought in case.

I agree keep your eye on him be sure he is drinking and eating normally if it persists call your vet.

mimimomo 01-28-2014 12:05 PM
I would take a sample to the vet to get it tested or let him check it out...slimy or greasy foul smelling (was it?) poopie sometimes means giardia. Or was it mucus slimy?

dawn27 01-28-2014 01:45 PM
[Moderator note: the dose below is for a FIVE pound dog, please obtain appropriate dose from your vet]

You can give him some Pepto Bismal work every time !!

I give mine 1.5 tsp (from an eye dropper/suction bulb) for every 5lbs. given every 6 hrs.

lillymae 01-28-2014 01:46 PM
I agree, a vet visit is in order as it could be the beginning of something serious & the faster he's diagnosed & treated the better especially in a puppy.

paolaRN 01-28-2014 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4382589)
I would take a sample to the vet to get it tested or let him check it out...slimy or greasy foul smelling (was it?) poopie sometimes means giardia. Or was it mucus slimy?
It was mucus slimy. His poop already smells strong due to his diet of Orijen brand kibble but this smelt a little worse. Poor guy

paolaRN 01-28-2014 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rubymoon2072 (Post 4382503)
your sure he didnt pass something from his anal sac?? sometimes they pass what builds up in there on their own...I have two that do on their own and one who needs to go to the vet when she scoots as she will not pass it on her own. cedric usually will have a lil slimy loose type of stool when it happens. but the smell is different so I know that's where it came from. just a thought in case.

I agree keep your eye on him be sure he is drinking and eating normally if it persists call your vet.


I had no idea they did that. He is still eating and drinking, limited last night but Normal this morning. I called the vet and he suggested I give him a very small amount of Imodium because he only weighs 3 pounds and he said that if it persists just to bring him in. I'm going to try. Thank you for the info!

ladyjane 01-28-2014 03:00 PM
I do not give over the counter meds unless directed by a vet. If one of mine has loose stools, I may try pumpkin, but not for long...diarrhea can lead to dehydration especially in a 3 pound pup. I would be at my vet. I have never ever been told to give immodium and certainly would not be happy with a vet who guessed the dosage...give a small amount is not a dosage!

If this diarrhea continues, he needs to go to the vet...or at least take a specimen in to be checked out.

ladyjane 01-28-2014 03:57 PM
Please read this about Pepto Bismol before using it:

Is It Safe to Give Your Dog Pepto Bismol?

JMuedog 01-28-2014 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4382630)
You can give him some Pepto Bismal work every time !!

I give mine 1.5 tsp (from an eye dropper/suction bulb) for every 5lbs. given every 6 hrs.
This is the MAXIMUM dose that dogs should ever have. I've read to start at 1/2 tsp and go from there, but my vet has never ever had us use it. We've always been instructed to give Pepcid for upset stomachs its a much safer medication.

I wouldn't give anything without speaking to your veterinarian.

ladyjane 01-28-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JMuedog (Post 4382691)
This is the MAXIMUM dose that dogs should ever have. I've read to start at 1/2 tsp and go from there, but my vet has never ever had us use it. We've always been instructed to give Pepcid for upset stomachs its a much safer medication.

I wouldn't give anything without speaking to your veterinarian.
I personally think it is an overdose. The OP's dog only weighs 3 pounds. I agree, nothing without asking a vet!

dawn27 01-28-2014 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMuedog (Post 4382691)
This is the MAXIMUM dose that dogs should ever have. I've read to start at 1/2 tsp and go from there, but my vet has never ever had us use it. We've always been instructed to give Pepcid for upset stomachs its a much safer medication.

I wouldn't give anything without speaking to your veterinarian.
Thanks, you have to remember that my pups range from 8-16 lbs. So (1.5 tsp) is the correct dose for them with the exception of Ruby who is only 8lbs. I would assume that anyone would ask their vet for the correct dose for their own pup before giving it. I have been instructed by my vet to give it on many occasions because it is safe for diarrhea and I do use Pepcid for stomach upset. Believe me I would never ever give them anything that would harm them. :)

ladyjane 01-28-2014 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4382713)
Thanks, you have to remember that my pups range from 8-16 lbs. So (1.5 tsp) is the correct dose for them with the exception of Ruby who is only 8lbs. I would assume that anyone would ask their vet for the correct dose for their own pup before giving it. I have been instructed by my vet to give it on many occasions because it is safe for diarrhea and I do use Pepcid for stomach upset. Believe me I would never ever give them anything that would harm them. :)
The problem is that you advised the OP to give it to her 3 pound dog. WHile you said what your dogs weighed, someone could ignore that part and just give it. I make it a policy not to give dosages to people on the internet...I personally think it is not safe.

dawn27 01-28-2014 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4382630)
You can give him some Pepto Bismal work every time !!

I give mine 1.5 tsp (from an eye dropper/suction bulb) for every 5lbs. given every 6 hrs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4382716)
The problem is that you advised the OP to give it to her 3 pound dog. WHile you said what your dogs weighed, someone could ignore that part and just give it. I make it a policy not to give dosages to people on the internet...I personally think it is not safe.
Unless I am a physic, which I am Not or an OP states the weight I would not know that now would I. Plus most people would clear the proper dose with their vet before giving it... LIKE I DID or at least research it first.


OP I do hope that your little one feels better soon !!

ladyjane 01-28-2014 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4382726)
Unless I am a physic, which I am Not or an OP states the weight I would not know that now would I. Plus most people would clear the proper dose with their vet before giving it... LIKE I DID or at least research it first.


OP I do hope that your little one feels better soon !!
Bottom line, I think the best policy is to avoid giving dosages. Many, many people do not understand them and often confuse ml and mg and teaspoons. Your dosage as stated by JMuedog was at the high end of the recommended dose which honestly is not where I start out when dosing but I also speak with my vet before I do most things. The OP has a 3 pound dog and might have missed your clarification about weight. As to your comments about going to the vet....many people do not do that as you well know.
My opinion is to avoid giving such advice because a wrong dosage of a medication could make a dog sick or kill it. I am just not into making those recommendations.

ladyjane 01-28-2014 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4382630)
You can give him some Pepto Bismal work every time !!

I give mine 1.5 tsp (from an eye dropper/suction bulb) for every 5lbs. given every 6 hrs.
No mention of a vet here.

TxVicki 01-28-2014 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4382716)
The problem is that you advised the OP to give it to her 3 pound dog. WHile you said what your dogs weighed, someone could ignore that part and just give it. I make it a policy not to give dosages to people on the internet...I personally think it is not safe.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thum bup:

mimimomo 01-28-2014 07:08 PM
I agree w/Linda, IDThink we should not give out any OTC med dosages & what to give for what...it should be given & approved by the vet. Some drugs interfere w/other meds, if the pup is on any other medication. There's also cc measurement, that can get confusing, I think that's the same as ml. Sticky w/drug dosage info: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...g-dosages.html

I'd rather go the natural routs 1st, like giving pumpkin or sweet potato than drugs. If there's no improvement, off to the vet we go.

Quote:
Originally Posted by paolaRN (Post 4382655)
It was mucus slimy. His poop already smells strong due to his diet of Orijen brand kibble but this smelt a little worse. Poor guy
I've taken my vet several poopies that looked strange & he never charged me for just taking a look. Of course, they turned out to be nothing serious poopies. One time, their poopies had what looked like white eggs, I thought it was worm eggs & he told me it was rice...asked me if I gave them rice. I did! What a relief that was loll.

Mucus poop can mean that the intestines are inflamed & the lining being expelled. He could've eaten something & caused a tummy upset. I hope he'll feel better soon!

paolaRN 01-29-2014 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4382726)
Unless I am a physic, which I am Not or an OP states the weight I would not know that now would I. Plus most people would clear the proper dose with their vet before giving it... LIKE I DID or at least research it first.


OP I do hope that your little one feels better soon !!


Thank you! I did notice your note that its for every 5 lbs and i wouldn't just give him anything g without my vet clearing it. He recommended 1 ml of liquid Imodium because of his tiny size. So far still eating and drinking water. Stool is getting a little firmer with small bouts of loose. Thank you for your warm thoughts!

paolaRN 01-29-2014 07:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4382772)
I agree w/Linda, IDThink we should not give out any OTC med dosages & what to give for what...it should be given & approved by the vet. Some drugs interfere w/other meds, if the pup is on any other medication. There's also cc measurement, that can get confusing, I think that's the same as ml. Sticky w/drug dosage info: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...g-dosages.html

I'd rather go the natural routs 1st, like giving pumpkin or sweet potato than drugs. If there's no improvement, off to the vet we go.


I've taken my vet several poopies that looked strange & he never charged me for just taking a look. Of course, they turned out to be nothing serious poopies. One time, their poopies had what looked like white eggs, I thought it was worm eggs & he told me it was rice...asked me if I gave them rice. I did! What a relief that was loll.

Mucus poop can mean that the intestines are inflamed & the lining being expelled. He could've eaten something & caused a tummy upset. I hope he'll feel better soon!




I'm going to try giving him the one ML of Imodium that the vet recommended and if it doesn't work he's definitely going to the vet tomorrow. thanks for thewarm thoughts!

paolaRN 01-29-2014 08:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4382734)
Bottom line, I think the best policy is to avoid giving dosages. Many, many people do not understand them and often confuse ml and mg and teaspoons. Your dosage as stated by JMuedog was at the high end of the recommended dose which honestly is not where I start out when dosing but I also speak with my vet before I do most things. The OP has a 3 pound dog and might have missed your clarification about weight. As to your comments about going to the vet....many people do not do that as you well know.
My opinion is to avoid giving such advice because a wrong dosage of a medication could make a dog sick or kill it. I am just not into making those recommendations.




I understand everyone's worry about the dosage thing and I appreciated because I know he's very small I wouldn't just give him anything without clearing it with my vet but he gave me a recommendation which I'm going to try and take him to the vet tomorrow if it doesn't work. Thanks!

ladyjane 01-29-2014 08:01 AM
This is day three and these little ones can get pretty sick quickly. If he still has diarrhea, my suggestion is to take him to the vet today. I personally would not wait another day.
If you do not do that, at least check his gums to make sure they are moist. If they feel tacky to the touch, he is becoming dehydrated.

Wylie's Mom 01-29-2014 08:03 AM
Whether or not to give out dosages online can be a touchy subject at times. At one time or another, I have given out dosages for antihistamines, pepto, benadryl, and pepcid (and maybe a few others). Most of these dosages are searchable online (and we have a dosage thread in ER), so I often figure why not just help them out by giving it...but it's a tough call, and not everyone agrees. I think when giving out dosages, one should always give the caveat to check with a vet. Also, I always triple check what dose I'm posting before posting it, bc I'm so paranoid about giving out the wrong info.

I do think it's especially important for EVERY owner to know what the proper dose for Benadryl is. Benadryl can literally save a life, so it's something I think we all should know by heart, or have posted in our house somewhere.

ladyjane 01-29-2014 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paolaRN (Post 4382955)
I understand everyone's worry about the dosage thing and I appreciated because I know he's very small I wouldn't just give him anything without clearing it with my vet but he gave me a recommendation which I'm going to try and take him to the vet tomorrow if it doesn't work. Thanks!
We were posting at the same time. I suppose if you did not give that med to him, you might want to try it. Just be sure to check his gums as I mentioned.

Good luck!

ladyjane 01-29-2014 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4382958)
Whether or not to give out dosages online can be a touchy subject at times. At one time or another, I have given out dosages for antihistamines, pepto, benadryl, and pepcid (and maybe a few others). Most of these dosages are searchable online (and we have a dosage thread in ER), so I often figure why not just help them out by giving it...but it's a tough call, and not everyone agrees. I think when giving out dosages, one should always give the caveat to check with a vet. Also, I always triple check what dose I'm posting before posting it, bc I'm so paranoid about giving out the wrong info.

I do think it's especially important for EVERY owner to know what the proper dose for Benadryl is. Benadryl can literally save a life, so it's something I think we all should know by heart, or have posted in our house somewhere.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Wylie's Mom 01-29-2014 08:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4382957)
This is day three and these little ones can get pretty sick quickly. If he still has diarrhea, my suggestion is to take him to the vet today. I personally would not wait another day.
If you do not do that, at least check his gums to make sure they are moist. If they feel tacky to the touch, he is becoming dehydrated.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Yup. They can go down SO quick when they have diarrhea.

dawn27 01-29-2014 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by paolaRN (Post 4382951)
Thank you! I did notice your note that its for every 5 lbs and i wouldn't just give him anything g without my vet clearing it. He recommended 1 ml of liquid Imodium because of his tiny size. So far still eating and drinking water. Stool is getting a little firmer with small bouts of loose. Thank you for your warm thoughts!
Yes, always verify the proper dose first!

:) I am glad that your pup is doing better today but still keep a very close eye on him and if anything out of the ordinary happens, take him to your vet.

Maximo 01-29-2014 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4382958)
Whether or not to give out dosages online can be a touchy subject at times. At one time or another, I have given out dosages for antihistamines, pepto, benadryl, and pepcid (and maybe a few others). Most of these dosages are searchable online (and we have a dosage thread in ER), so I often figure why not just help them out by giving it...but it's a tough call, and not everyone agrees. I think when giving out dosages, one should always give the caveat to check with a vet. Also, I always triple check what dose I'm posting before posting it, bc I'm so paranoid about giving out the wrong info.

I do think it's especially important for EVERY owner to know what the proper dose for Benadryl is. Benadryl can literally save a life, so it's something I think we all should know by heart, or have posted in our house somewhere.
I agree.

I am so paranoid about giving my boys anything without a vet prescription, but the Benadryl is a must. Finally gave it to Teddy once and now I feel confident. Before that, I asked our vet's office about 4 times a year to confirm dosage and type, and then asked poor Crystal and Linda about 5 more times. :D

Mimi 510 01-29-2014 12:26 PM
When I got my Leila, she had diarrhea and when I took her to the vet and did a fecal test she ended up having Giardia. The poop is really slimy with a drop of blood toward the end of the bowel movement. They treated her with antibiotics. That was such a pain in the butt. I was steam mopping my floors and washing everything she could have came in contact with because with 2 other dogs I was not going to take that chance of them getting it. Just recently she has another episode with diarrhea and again I took her to the vet and had the fecal test done which came out negative. It was such a relief! It turned out her anal glads were full and needed to be expressed. Those fecal test are not cheap at all!


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