Little Tibbe Sick Again - Bad Diarrhea Since Yesterday. Breeders-to-be - READ THIS!
 

Poor little Tibbe just seemed to get over his vomiting and then the diarrhea started. Just mucus in his stools at first and then today mostly loose stools until at 4:25 pm, he had diarrhea just lying on the couch - 3 or 4 tablespoons or so. My Kaopectate had gone bad so I had to give him some Pepto - about 1/4 t. at 1:00 am this morning so his stools got dark but this last one was back to brown. When I saw a tinge of blood on part of a stool at 1:00 pm today, I called the vet for an appt. and she said no need as he'd just spent the whole day with her Monday - just come in and pick up Metronidazole and so he was started on that at 2:28 pm. He's now had 9 loose stools since 10 am yesterday but kept eating until today. so far today, he won't eat and I'm giving him kibble soup via syringe in the side of his mouth, together with sugar water or Pedialyte. His vet says give him 10 ml. of fluid via syringe an hour! That seems excessive to me and he's been drinking water all day until about 3:00 pm when he stopped voluntarily drinking but his stools haven't been bad until that last one on the couch. I just gave him 4 ml. sugar water in the side pocket of his mouth and he's keeping it down and - knock on wood - no more diarrhea for the two hours but I know he'll likely have more until the Metronidazole begins to kick in.

Can I give him Kaopectate if I need to? Mine went bad and I stopped by Walmart to get some more and they were OUT! I could run up and get some more at Albertson's but it's too late and I forgot to ask the vet if Kao was okay! I viciously hit my head on the cupboard when I raised up with a can of soup about an hour or so ago and am more than a little dingy. Head hurting and back is OUT - hurting so bad from all the cleaning up and nursing Tibbe over this past night and day. He acts alert and his gums are fine, skin shows no evidence dehydration so far but am watching him like a hawk. We're off to the ER Vet if just one more thing happens or Tibbe goes "south". Vet says don't panic - it's just going to the canned hepatic food too fast and his GI tract upset but he'll be fine. I'm not so sure! I'm growing so weary and tired and no sleep and now this head is just aching(using ice packs on it) and that poor little boy of mine is restless, can't stay down for long without wanting to get up and move, as if he's hurting! Vet says Metro. will help that. I'm scared, exhausted and unsure what in the world to do at this point and I'm not even the sick one - poor little Tibbe is.

People that breed poor little dogs willy-nilly and without testing the parents for liver/other medical problems as Tibbs' parents undoubtedly weren't, are just AWFUL to help pass along grave problems to the breeding pair's poor, hapless puppies. I knew when I got him that he was likely in for medical problems, was essentially a "rescue" and from a heedless breeding from a breeder who'd abused him keeping him in a cage for 9 mos. of his life and then gave him and the rest of her Yorkies to my Jilly's breeder to place in a home when she encountered family problems and still it hurts so when you see the outcome of BAD BREEDING and what it does to the poor little dogs and the people who adore them. I knew he'd likely be sickly when I took him but after Jilly, knew I had lots of experience in how to handle delicate systems and nurse them along, get excellent vet care, etc., whereas another buyer might not. Still, knowing that up front, the things the puppies of bad breeders can go through are just HORRIBLE - horrible for the dog, horrible to watch then suffer. So wrong in so many many ways!!! I wish I had his breeder by the neck right now! No, just kidding...........................almost. JK, really, but boy, am I angry at her often! Very, very angry.

Please, ANYONE READING THIS THINKING OF BREEDING, please do not breed dogs indiscriminately whatever you do! Study the lines and health of those lines, health test and know your genetics and how to pair two dogs to improve the breed or please - DON"T BREED and create little dogs like Tibbe with a bad liver, inherited, and no fault of his own. But he's paying the price. And indiscriminate breeding can produce puppies with soooo many other medical problems if the parents and their lineage aren't healthy from way back. It's so wrong to breed dogs without health testing them and knowing their ancestors' health history! If you could see Tibbe right now, you'd know - it's wrong!

Sorry for the rant. I'm just tired and worried.

Is Kaopectate safe to use with the Metronidazole - does anyone know?

Once again, YT's prayers will SO be appreciated for my sweet, sweet baby Tibbe!

I agree 100%...Buster had LP when I got him at around 10 weeks old (he came from a broker and at the time I knew nothing about brokers, bad genes, etc.), but I did not return him. I'm glad I did not return him as I don't think anyone else would have spent the time and money on his legs. My heart breaks for him right now as he can barely walk, when he gets up to walk. This is not Buster, who loves to go at one speed...high. I can tell he's in pain. So yes, to the bad breeders, in my book, you more than suck.

I got off on my rant and forgot to say - I don't know about giving Kaopectate with your other medicine. But I will be praying for little Tibbe and hoping that he is well soon.

I'm very sorry precious little tibbe is suffering along with the worry you are having. Prayers will be sent for both of you.

Jeanie, I'll be praying for your little Tibbe and I'll be wishing you both all the best.
I don't know about Kaopectate or Metronidazole.

I'm praying for both of you. I checked for drug interactions and did not find any negative interactions between Flagyl and Kaopectate.

Please get well, Tibbe, and take care of your special mom, too. I'm so glad that your mom has you to love. She takes such great care of you.

We see each day the pain, worry, and suffering caused by people breeding for the wrong reason. It is so very heartbreaking to say the least.

Watch close for dehydration. Make sure his gums aren't sticky. Nine loose stools in less than two days is very dehydrating. You can't always tell if they are dehydrated.

The Hepatic may be too much for him. It is moderate fat which may be upsetting to some Yorkies.

Oh poor, Tibbe, poor you, I am so sorry that you both are going through this. Just watch him, you're doing a great job...this too will get better. I hope and pray he improves...get well quick Tibbe!!!

And yes, my vet says kao and metro can be given together.

Prayers going for Tibbe to start getting better soon. I am so very sorry you are having to go through this, and send you hugs too.

Oh Jeanie, I'm so sorry Tibbe isn't well, and that you are in so much pain. Hope this clears up in a hurry and you both feel better soon.

I am so sorry to hear about Tibbe. I hope the medication works quick and he will be on the mend soon. Also thank you for posting about the breeding. I know this is so hard for you. I hope that if one person doesn't breed their dogs you will make a difference. I am hoping that it really affects more. Hugs and good thoughts to you both

Tibbe and Jeanie....my love and prayers....xo

I just checked his gums. Nicely firm and pink and rebound instantly. Skin on his back won't hold together at all. I've been very mindful of getting fluid into him and kept syringing water, sugar water and Pedialyte into him since yesterday despite his keeping drinking until this afternoon.

However, at 8:30 pm he awoke, I game him 4 ml. sugar water and he demanded some treats. I got him some softened Hill's I/D GI kibble and gave him 5 pieces in a row which he readily ate. Then he wanted more and scared to feed him more pieces of kibble, I gave him the rest of his kibble soup which was 5 pieces of kibble soaked and mashed with a lot of water and a tad of sugar in it. He drank all of it before I knew what the was doing! Now am scared he's going to get nauseated so I'm watching him with the Cerenia at hand and also fearful of all this food intake starting his diarrhea back. His last stool was that large loose one on the couch comforter at 4: 25 pm! Will be keeping a close eye on him the next hours!

Thanks for the info on the kao and metro! Crystal, you are my rock! :)

Awwwww I totally agree with you on those bad breeders, I too wish I knew where the girl was that almost killed my baby Gizmo I rescued. They don't care one bit and just think of making money, so sad

I will be keeping Tibbe and you both in my thoughts and prayers for a very quick healing ((((BIG HUGS))))

Crystal, his former stools were mostly small little stools and had form, just mucus on top. One was only about the size of a 1/4 teaspoon - etc., until that one about 4:25 pm and that was watery, loose, mucus-filled and he obviously couldn't control it, probably thinking he was just passing gas and out it came all on the comforter! That's when I called the vet back and asked about how much fluid I should be getting into him and was told 10 ml. per hour! That's so much for a 6.6 lb. dog, to me!

This has just panicked me a little more - he's trying to play, growling playfully at me and very alert, tail up, ears up, far different than he's been all day! Got his chewie that he hides and is playing around with it on the couch! Wonder if the Metro. is making him high or something. When I took Flagyl I felt weird the whole time I took it and maybe it's doing him the same way - giving him a false appetite and energy. Gosh! This is scary and terrible since I think it's false energy. Never seen one rally that fast. First he ate too much for his tummy/bowel in the state they are likely in and now he's played!

While I was typing this he came and lay down on my legs so maybe that phase is past. Going to be watching him closely and if he has another stool soon, I'll probably run up to Albertson's and get that Kao if they have any. I wish I had asked the vet before they closed but with Lisa and Crystal both of you telling me it should be okay, I feel way better. Ohhhhh, this has been a bad, bad day and a half. Scary times.

Thank you, ladies, for the prayers. We both need them. My stomach is even cramping and hurting some now. Ugh!

Praying for sweet Tibbe and you that he recovers quickly. I hope you can both get some rest tonight.

Deep breaths.:)
He will be ok. Diet will be a life long headache, but you'll get it figured out.
How about cooking for him?

Yes, it is ok. I specifically asked my vet for you.

Crystal thank you for being you...

Aren't those BYB'ers and those types that breed just any two dogs together or don't health test or anything just awful - particularly with so many Yorkies having so much trouble from all the bad breeding? Breaks your heart to see it. You think you are prepared, know what you are going to be dealing with but when the trouble comes, it is so heartbreaking and scary and bad for the person, imagine what the little Yorkie is going through!!!

Thank you for your support and prayers!

Thank you so much. We both do need it but Tibbe is the really sick one, poor little guy. He's had a bad year.

Thank you so much, Anny.

It should plain be against the law. I know it's not feasible for I can wish!

Thank you so very much for the prayers.

Bless you, Vicki, and thank you!

Need those hugs and thank you for the prayers. Just so hoping tomorrow is better!

Kat, Teri and Lynn, thank you and bless you all! Means so much to read your sweet, sweet words and know you care and are there for us! It really does! :)

Those awful people that just breed anything anytime and make these poor little dogs are terrible and should have to pay for this kind of pain somehow and feel it, too!

Thank you, SunnyD and Kristen. Appreciate those kind thoughts and caring!!! I'm so tired I hope I can sleep - maybe have gone too long w/out and it might take a while just to unwind. Every time Tibbe moves I freeze wondering if he's fixing to get up retching or needing to go potty. So far so good. We're at about 6 hours since that last big stool! Woohoo!

Keeping Tibbe and you in my thoughts and prayers! Hugs to you!!!

That is great news!

I understand how exhausting and worrisome it all is. Teddy has been battling diarrhea. He was better all day yesterday, but I made the mistake of giving him his kibble for dinner. After a rough night, I put him back on a bland diet and convinced him that he needs to eat the rice with the chicken. He hasn't produced anything in the last 12 hours. Hoping for firm production or we are off to the vet. Of course, Max is upset with all of disruptions.

May I second that and say Amen all at the same time? She's just irreplaceable. I started to call her tonight just to ask a couple of questions and try to feel better and then hated so to do that to her - knowing how tough and hard and tiring her life is right now! That schedule has got to be a killer! So I came on YT instead and was hoping and praying she might be on! Whew - she was!!!!!!!!! :):):)

Crystal, you keep me from flying off into space and freaking all the way with just your words. When you speak, we listen! Means the world to have you there.

Tibbe is still sound asleep but has moved off my legs to the end of the couch on all those thick towels and buried down in them. He's no longer so restless and waking every 15 minutes as he's done all day! That Metronidazole couldn't have worked that fast! But he's full of all that sugar water and food and no stool or vomiting yet! Oh, hoping and praying he can go a while before he needs to potty again. His poor little rectum was so red I had to put ointment on it to soothe it this afternoon. He kept scooting until I did that and then he just relaxed - must have felt so good. He actually went to sleep this afternoon after that ointment was in place for a couple of minutes. Hasn't scooted or turned toward his bottom since and he'd been doing that quite a bit, even scooting on the grass. I think that ointment helped right away. It has a coolness factor to it and cools, calms red, hot, irritated areas immediately. I only used a tiny, tiny bit since I wasn't sure it was okay for dogs but it's been about 8 hours since I did that and he's not scooted once since. And the redness of the tissue all gone - gone back to its regular coloring.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that Teddy has been going through this, too! Hoping that firm production is there next time and things settle down. Oh, I hadn't even thought of what having a second dog might be like when the other dog is sick and everything all upset. That's got to be tough on the well one - just seeing all the turmoil and nursing going on. Every time Tibbe had a stool, had to clean him up and clean the yard and about the time you're done, they are up again and wanting/needing something else. It's almost nonstop going and doing, isn't it? God to be hard on the little onlooker, too! Poor Maxie. Poor Teddy and poor Tibbe. Hoping all our guys are better in the morning! And praying for rest for us both, ha!

Awe...Jeannie, I am so sorry to see that Tibbe's still's not feeling well. Continued prayers for your little man.