I'm glad the vet got back to you. I hope you can get Charlie feeling better.

This is all sounding very promising...wishing Charlie well...I hope this vet has the right answer for you and Charlie.

Hope that little Charlie has a quick recovery.

We will get him better. Here's a video from today. He needs a hair cut but I am worried to take him to the groomer. I worry of them tugging too hard or something. :/ But you can see he is not suffering or anything.


Charlie dog - YouTube

Charlie's a cutie. I am glad things are going so well with the new Vet. Good luck with the appointment and jean sales. Buster sends tail wags to Charlie.

Charlie looks great, nope it doesn't seem to be bothering him at all...maybe he won't need surgery... but we shall see... best wishes!

OMG he is adorable!!

Awee. Thank you. He's a little scruffy right now. lol He's doing great today. Like nothing ever happened. Glad to see him perky again. Wouldn't it be funny if the surgeon says he doesn't need surgery. I will have saved myself so much worry and stress and owe it all to you guys. I'm not getting my hopes up on that but I am hoping.

I'm glad he's doing better. I think if there was swelling, the joint won't pop back in... but when the swelling goes down, it went right back in. Usually surgery is done when it won't go back in, swollen or not, or if a dog is showing pain and non-weight bearing.

When I took Finny to the vet for diarrhea, the vet said her knee was out, but not to worry, she popped it back in right there. I have no idea when it went out, she had no symptoms or anything, lol. Walks and runs fine, no yelping and always weight bearing. I will be keeping a closer eye on her though.

There was defiantly swelling a couple days ago that I'm sure has gone down by now. One thing I can say was the vet was excited to do a surgery on him quick and made it sound like I was getting a great deal. He was telling me I could call around anywhere and wouldn't get a price like the one he was offering. I remember telling my boyfriend how I thought that was weird because it shouldn't be that I am looking for a bargain the way he was putting it out there. But naive me shook it off like I was just worrying too much. I'm glad i'll know for sure soon.

Yikes! That definitely sounds a bit freaky!... in a few different ways!

I don't know who you saw....but the only vets I have ever heard of doing that were not board certified. That is why I always push for a boarded surgeon.

Funny, this topic comes up today again as I was just at the surgeon that we use in the Houston area. One of the YHR fosters was seen because her knees were a concern. She has Grade 3 LP ...her knees are out .. can be put back in place, but pop right back out. The next grade is 4 and that is when they simply stay out. The rule of thumb for this surgeon and most I have heard of is to not operate UNLESS the pup is in distress. Has really not much to do with the grade at all. What can happen is that they can operate on a knee and then weeks or even months later if the pup sustains a tear to the CCL, another expensive surgery is done. So...unless there is pain or difficulties walking or a torn CCL, no surgery. Now, that is for adult pups. Puppies are a different story.

Any surgeon who pushed me or told me I was getting a bargain would have me running out the door.

This is who I am seeing. She seems very nice. I am excited to meet her.

Pacific Veterinary Surgery Services

I agree that was dumb of me not to run and actually consider what he said. I have no experience with this kind of stuff so I had no clue about the need for a specialist. I do now though. We live and we learn. I am thankful for Yorkie Talk.

That is promising information. Thank you. I'd rather not put him through surgery and just keep him healthy instead. I'm so worried about taking him for walks and letting him jump around too much right now. Sucks. Maybe I should be doing all that stuff as normal.

Don't call yourself dumb. We want to believe doctors and vets. I am glad that you came to YT and asked questions.
He looked fine in that video. Of course, that does not mean he is...because sometimes they tear a ligament and within a few days they can walk on it again. The problem is that when it is torn, severe arthritis will set in if not repaired.
Will keep you and him in my thoughts and prayers. Hope all goes well.

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When it comes to health care for humans or pets, I listen to the doctors first, then I research and try to talk to people who have had similar experiences, and then I do my best to make decisions. Doctors are like any other professional, some are better than others.

Best wishes for Charlie.

Exactly, especially when it comes to special situations that regular vets don't deal with everyday. My regular vet told me during a routine checkup that Jezebel's LP was a grade 4, and I knew if that were true that she wouldn't even be walking, so that clouded my judgment of her in all matters orthopedic. At that point Jez wasn't injured and had never given any indication of LP. Then when she was injured I went to the specialist, and he said that it was a grade 2. Big difference!

Christine, I really do hope that you are going to find out it is something that rest will fix. Also, you also said that your regular vet mentioned hip dypslasia. Who knows if that really is the case? At least, with a visit to a specialist, even if no surgery is needed (prayers for that), you will have a good baseline established and you will know exactly what is going on and learn the best way to successfully manage it from someone who knows what they are doing. That could save you $$$ down the road and give Charlie a better life.

LadyJane, Dr Beale told me the same thing. He really didn't like to do a surgical repair to fix LP at stage 2 because all too often he would find them tearing the CCL later anyway and having to do surgery again. I hope Cookie is doing well.

He is awesome! I learn something new every time I go there. Cookie is doing well, thank you. :)

I hope this feeling I got in the pit of my stomach is wrong. Charlie's appt with the specialist is tomorrow. I haven't had a chance to get his x-rays yet, so I called the vet just now and asked if I could come in tonight or tomorrow to get the x-rays because I decided to take him to a specialist. The girl sounded like she got nervous and dropped her pen and was talking kind of fast. She took my info and then told me she would call me back after she talks to the dr. Maybe I am just being paranoid but why does she have to talk to the dr first? That's odd to me. Talk to him about what? permission? what? T

his lady tomorrow is making a special trip for me so he better not screw with me. I almost had to cancel for tomorrow because my car is having problems. I called to reschedule and they were ok with it but they told me she was making a special trip to come see me so they would have to call me back to reschedule after talking to her. Not wanting to seem like a flake, I was able to arrange a ride after alll and let them no to just keep it for tomorrow They better not say some crazy crap about why I can't have the x-rays. I am not going to look like an idiot. But if it wasn't a yes, no situation, why do they have to talk to him first. :scratchhe

I'm probably just being paranoid. Maybe it's normal to have to ask a dr first. When I worked at a dental office it wasn't.

i just read my post and I am totally jumping to conclusions. I shouldn't do that. Just so use to being ready with my guard up for everything I guess. It's always something it seems.

When Jezebel was injured, I just let the specialist do the xrays. That way, I knew that they will be done at the proper angle and wouldn't have to be re-done.

I find it odd that she has to talk to the Dr., too. It's a stressful time, I know first-hand, so you're questioning everything. That's not all bad.

I'm hoping it's because he really does not need surgery, and the xrays may prove it. I of course could very well be wrong, I've been wrong too many times to count, just being hopeful. Even if the specialist wants to do their own xrays, there is nothing wrong with taking the previous ones with you. Please keep us updated, I am so curious about all this. Wishing you and Charlie well, that's really all that's important right now...and getting a specialist opinion is the thing to do.

I would simply show up and ask for them. They should just give them to you. Don't wait for a call until they are closed...then you won't have them tomorrow.
No reason for the vet to be notified...makes no sense.

Good luck tomorrow!

Thinking of Charlie and praying all goes well with the specialist tomorrow. ;) :)

At the specialist waiting in the room for the dr. Moment of truth.

Oh ya the vet yesterday made me come see him.. brb vet here

Hope you get great news.

Praying for Charlie and that the news isn't bad!

I freaking love you guys. Charlie doesn't need surgery. I'll tell more when I get home.

So happy to see this! Will look forward to hearing the story! :)

Woo hooo! I'm so happy for both of you!