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ladyjane 12-27-2012 05:34 PM
I am really sorry that she is so sick. I wish I could offer another idea for you but sadly when they are that ill, it is either spend the money or not....and quite frankly even if we spend the money sometimes they are just too sick to save. It is just horrible to have such a sick pup. I will pray for all of you....I really do know how awful it is to have a sick pup.

danieloneil01 12-27-2012 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4088297)
Having read the intervening posts and your later ones, perhaps I have it all wrong. Sorry! I thought the visit today was to a specialist and the large cost, the cost of surgery.

It was and is. Can't expect to just have surgery and send her home without running tests and caring for her after major surgery.

ladyjane 12-27-2012 05:36 PM
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I'm lumping what is was included in the estimate. The surgery by itself is between 1900-2500. Everything else is caring for her after surgery, tests, medication, professional services and everything else. I know you want to believe something else but this is what they told my wife.
No, this is what I was saying...I don't want to believe anything else! I knew that the surgery alone was not $5,400. The other person posting was saying something about it and I was clarifying it is all. :)

danieloneil01 12-27-2012 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4088303)
I am really sorry that she is so sick. I wish I could offer another idea for you but sadly when they are that ill, it is either spend the money or not....and quite frankly even if we spend the money sometimes they are just too sick to save. It is just horrible to have such a sick pup. I will pray for all of you....I really do know how awful it is to have a sick pup.

She seems fine now which blows. I looked up pancreatitis and it doesn't require surgery unless I'm spelling it wrong. Pancrea-i-tice (sp?), sorry I'm not the brightest bulb.

danieloneil01 12-27-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4088305)
No, this is what I was saying...I don't want to believe anything else! I knew that the surgery alone was not $5,400. The other person posting was saying something about it and I was clarifying it is all. :)

Gotcha, sorry but the drive home after work wasn't the greatest after talking with the wife. When I answered she seemed fine and I expected to hear better news.

ladyjane 12-27-2012 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by danieloneil01 (Post 4088307)
She seems fine now which blows. I looked up pancreatitis and it doesn't require surgery unless I'm spelling it wrong. Pancrea-i-tice (sp?), sorry I'm not the brightest bulb.
They can diagnose it with a blood test. It is pancreatitis. :) You're not a dim bulb. :)
No, it does not require surgery...usually hospitalization though for IV fluids. I am just a bit concerned about her need for Vit K. She must have something going on with her clotting factor.

ladyjane 12-27-2012 05:43 PM
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Gotcha, sorry but the drive home after work wasn't the greatest after talking with the wife. When I answered she seemed fine and I expected to hear better news.
I am so sorry. :(

danieloneil01 12-27-2012 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4088310)
They can diagnose it with a blood test. It is pancreatitis. :) You're not a dim bulb. :)
No, it does not require surgery...usually hospitalization though for IV fluids. I am just a bit concerned about her need for Vit K. She must have something going on with her clotting factor.

My wife said she was told it's low because of her liver (since she has jaundice). I don't see how it's pancreatitis if my 2nd vet and this one today said the ultrasound showed her gall bladder as extremely enlarged and she has jaundice.

They said if it was this (pancreatitis) they would have to reroute her lower intestines.

ladyjane 12-27-2012 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by danieloneil01 (Post 4088314)
My wife said she was told it's low because of her liver (since she has jaundice). I don't see how it's pancreatitis if my 2nd vet and this one today said the ultrasound showed her gall bladder as extremely enlarged and she has jaundice.

They said if it was this (pancreatitis) they would have to reroute her lower intestines.
Yes, that makes sense. If I were you, I would ask the vet tomorrow if he can give her the Vitamin K rather than waiting until next week.

They will be sending you and your vet a full report. They will email it to you and it explains everything in detail. I imagine you will receive it tomorrow. Then, perhaps it will all make more sense. It is hard to digest all of the information when you are in the appt. I am so sure your wife was stressed...I never walk out of there totally understanding all of what they tell me. It is always easier to read the report.

dottiesyrky 12-27-2012 05:58 PM
Liver
 
What a terrible dilemma!!! So much input and I am sure you are a little dazed and confused. Let us not argue here, but just sleep on all the info and talk with a general vet who may be able to calmly clarify things for you. It sounds to be a very complex situation that no one here can solve. We are not vets and do not have the complete data to go on. We may have similar experiences but we do not have this exact situation.
Again, so sorry.

ladyjane 12-27-2012 05:59 PM
Here are some links that I used that were helpful when my Olivia was sick. She ended up with a diagnosis of cholangiohepatitis. She also has a protein losing nephropathy...but that was a side thing we found when diagnosing the gall bladder and liver issues.

Gallbladder and Bile Duct Inflammation in Dogs | petMD

http://www.vimpva.com/articles/Gall%...0in%20Dogs.pdf

Gall bladder disease

ladyjane 12-27-2012 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4088321)
What a terrible dilemma!!! So much input and I am sure you are a little dazed and confused. Let us not argue here, but just sleep on all the info and talk with a general vet who may be able to calmly clarify things for you. It sounds to be a very complex situation that no one here can solve. We are not vets and do not have the complete data to go on. We may have similar experiences but we do not have this exact situation.
Again, so sorry.
Huh? Who is arguing? Your post is confusing. Don't know what you are thinking, but speaking for myself, I am trying to help the OP and I SURELY am not trying to diagnose. I am a firm believer that NO ONE but a vet should do that. :)

ladyjane 12-27-2012 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4088317)
Yes, that makes sense. If I were you, I would ask the vet tomorrow if he can give her the Vitamin K rather than waiting until next week.

They will be sending you and your vet a full report. They will email it to you and it explains everything in detail. I imagine you will receive it tomorrow. Then, perhaps it will all make more sense. It is hard to digest all of the information when you are in the appt. I am so sure your wife was stressed...I never walk out of there totally understanding all of what they tell me. It is always easier to read the report.
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danieloneil01 12-27-2012 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4088317)
Yes, that makes sense. If I were you, I would ask the vet tomorrow if he can give her the Vitamin K rather than waiting until next week.

They will be sending you and your vet a full report. They will email it to you and it explains everything in detail. I imagine you will receive it tomorrow. Then, perhaps it will all make more sense. It is hard to digest all of the information when you are in the appt. I am so sure your wife was stressed...I never walk out of there totally understanding all of what they tell me. It is always easier to read the report.

I never understand what they're telling me so it was better that she went. They always try to explain it to me but it's like they're talking in German and I just nod my head.

She was also told she has no infections.

TxVicki 12-27-2012 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4088324)
Huh? Who is arguing? Your post is confusing. Don't know what you are thinking, but speaking for myself, I am trying to help the OP and I SURELY am not trying to diagnose. I am a firm believer that NO ONE but a vet should do that. :)
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