Vaccine reaction, horrible scare!

[Mom to Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Very scary

We live in Lyme country here.....90% of dogs test positive and people too.
I still don't give the lyme vaccine, and I've heard of at least three dogs who contracted lyme while on the vaccine so I'm not convinced it's effective anyway. Risks seem to outweigh benefits IMO.

Bordatella, I stopped that one after Barney got KC on two occasions despite vax. Why bother?

I hope your little one is ok. Hugs.

Wow, I thought that we were in the thick of lyme country. We been doing the lyme vaccine and have never had an issue nor tested positive. In my neighborhood (14 homes) 6 families have tested positive for lyme, some with several members in the family. One time I had over 2 dozen deer ticks on me after working in the garden under tall grasses...never again! I have been tested 3x due to things like this and thankfully have come back negative. So in our case the lyme prevention has been effective. As for bortadella, we've been fortunate with that as well--they go to the groomers to get their nails and glands done.

Thanks for the well wishes.

[Mom to Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

Reactions (if they get one) to vaccines get WORSE, not better! Make sure Hot Rod gets them done separately. Lyme, then Bordetella few days afterward. If they get any combination of shots, it's hard to pin point which caused the reaction. To be on the safe side, they can give him benadryl or an aniti-inflammatory shot beforehand. Do they do titers for lyme? Vaccine reactions are scary!

Evidence Based Vet Forum • View topic - client informed consent lyme information
Lymes vaccination in pets has been shown to have side efffects including those that can be fatal that have been associated with a clinical infection of the disease.

Thanks for the link, Jenny. When we first discussed the lyme vaccine with our first vet, she did tell us that it was not an all in all preventative. Taking into account of where we lived we opted to vaccinate. In light of HR's reacation, I'm definitely going to discuss it with the vet concerning next year's treatment-if any. Not sure if they do titers for lyme.

It's just so hard to decide on what is the best thing to do. I've been using lemon grass oil, as a natural remedy for fleas, in their bath. I can't say definitively that this has been what's kept fleas away but I can say we've not had any problems with fleas.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod

Thanks for the link, Jenny. When we first discussed the lyme vaccine with our first vet, she did tell us that it was not an all in all preventative. Taking into account of where we lived we opted to vaccinate. In light of HR's reacation, I'm definitely going to discuss it with the vet concerning next year's treatment-if any. Not sure if they do titers for lyme.

It's just so hard to decide on what is the best thing to do. I've been using lemon grass oil, as a natural remedy for fleas, in their bath. I can't say definitively that this has been what's kept fleas away but I can say we've not had any problems with fleas.

Do you use any other preventative for fleas & ticks? I know frontline plus doesn't work for some w/flea problems but wonder if it'll help w/the ticks? They do have natural tick repellant recipes online, but I do not know of it's effectiveness or if it's 100% safe for the fur butts.

[Mom to Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

Do you use any other preventative for fleas & ticks? I know frontline plus doesn't work for some w/flea problems but wonder if it'll help w/the ticks? They do have natural tick repellant recipes online, but I do not know of it's effectiveness or if it's 100% safe for the fur butts.

We use Frontline Plus, once a month. I use the lemongrass oil at each bath-every 2 weeks. Not sure if we have any type of flea problem, but at least the lemongrass oil smells good too.

[richards6402]

So glad Hot Rod is OK. Macy had a bad reaction to a Lepto shot. About 4 hours after the shot she started trembling badly and out of it. Everything turned out OK for her but now I schedule all shots for the first appointment in the day on a day when the vet's office is open until 8 P and I can stay home with her. He said she may do OK on one shot and the next time she has a reaction.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod

We use Frontline Plus, once a month. I use the lemongrass oil at each bath-every 2 weeks. Not sure if we have any type of flea problem, but at least the lemongrass oil smells good too.

Where do you get the lemon grass oil & how much do you use in their bath? I also use frontline plus & have not seen any fleas or signs of them lately but would like to use something natural...

[yorkieluvme2]

Glad to hear that he is ok.

[kjc]

Glad little Hot Rod is doing okay now... that was scary!

[Patti]

Very scary. Glad he is better now.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Every petlovers's fear - vax reaction. We're not doing Lyme but we did just do Bordetella in the summer and now I read this, so glad that's over. So glad you got Hot Rod right in(over & over!) and he didn't go into respiratory distress, seizures. Thankfully you acted to get him to the vet. Hope he's good to go for a while and nothing else is needed in the way of a vax for a while.

[MandiesMom]

Another problem with vaccines is the dosages. They give the same amount for a 50 lb dog as they do a 5 lb dog. I had a lady who works a lot with dog rescues tell me that most vaccines aren't necessary and could even be harmful. More and more studies are showing that.

It really is a very hard decision to make on what is best for our loves.

I'm so glad Hot Rod is ok now!

[Rescuemomma]

I also don't do lyme or lepto - I lost a dog to a combo shot, a 12 week old show potential Italian Greyhound puppy Never looked at vaccines the same again!!! I do what others mentioned, and always have them do a benedryl shot prior to ANY vaccines. If I get a puppy, I only do 3 sets max of puppy shots, if I get a say in it I don't have the first given until 10 weeks, do one more at 14 weeks, and send in titers at 18 weeks, so far never have done anything past that. Alot of studies are showing shots done before 10 weeks have little to no affect since there's still circulating antibodies from the mom for a few weeks after they're compeletly weaned. I then titer test at a year, and if titers are high, I don't vaccinate again, and check every 1-3 years. Rabies I follow the law, but if my dogs get ANY chronic health issues, I start titer testing for rabies, to, and where I live they'll accept that with a note from the vet as to why they feel the dog shouldn't be vaccinated. Vaccines are far from harmless, I won't do them past puppyhood unless titers are low.

[gracielove]

I had considered getting the lyme disease vaccine for Gracie last year with the ticks being so bad. I read so many negative things about it that I decided not to go through with it.

An allergic reaction will never happen the first time a body receives a dose of the antigen. It is the second or even third dose that brings on the reaction, after the body has already set up a defense against the substance.

While an allergic reaction can happen in the body when exposed to about any substance and at any time there are some substances that are more prone to elicit a reaction.

If you decide to have these vaccines again you might want to consider staying at the vet's office for at least 45 minutes after they are given just to make sure there is not another reaction.

[Britster]

I have heard of WAY more vaccine reactions than before lately!! My friends Doberman just died from the lyme shot.

I think vaccinations are very important... but to give them year after year, and even every 3 years is just so unnecessary! I don't do any of those "extras" for Jackson, as they don't cover all strains anyways. We won't be doing any more shots except rabies as required by law. Titers here on out to check for immunity.

I am soooo glad Hot Rod is okay. Poor little man.

Check out some of these semi-recent threads that have a lot of info regarding vaccine facts, etc.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...light=vaccines

Dogs Naturally Magazine Bordetella Vaccination for Dogs: Fraud and Fallacy

[Lovetodream88]

I am so sorry that sounds really scary. I am glad he is ok now.