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concretegurl 06-18-2012 01:35 PM
So glad its going well.
I have a question though, hope its not received unintentionally, but I was tild all med changes should be dobe over a 90 day cycle of course this was in reguaed specifically to Elvis. L
My question is did your vet set the schedule here?

concretegurl 06-18-2012 01:39 PM
Oh, Elvis loves baby carrots above everything but chicken! Green beans are a fav treat here I use them before pumpkin to calm tummies.

AllDogBoots 06-18-2012 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3950092)
So glad its going well.
I have a question though, hope its not received unintentionally, but I was tild all med changes should be dobe over a 90 day cycle of course this was in reguaed specifically to Elvis. L
My question is did your vet set the schedule here?
Your questions is not received unintentionally. My vet did set a schedule but actually thought 60 days would be appropriate for Max since his dosage was on the low end for a pup his size. I extended that schedule.

Next week I will do 25% dosage for 2 weeks and then I will do 12% dosage for another 2 weeks. The total will be 10 weeks. I am comfortable with this as long as Max is as well.

concretegurl 06-18-2012 02:01 PM
I see. Thanks for taking it as it was meant. You're like me too, take the advice and go another step to be extra safe.
I'm so happy its going smoothly.

AllDogBoots 06-18-2012 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3950125)
I see. Thanks for taking it as it was meant. You're like me too, take the advice and go another step to be extra safe.
I'm so happy its going smoothly.
I'm thrilled he's doing so well. I really hope that he continues. I'm going to wait a few months and then do blood work on him. I'd like to take a look at his liver levels. I forgot to ask the doctor, but if the phenobarbital elevates his levels do they automatically go down when he's off the meds? I do believe the liver repairs itself, right?

concretegurl 06-18-2012 02:11 PM
No. The liver damage is only managed. That's our big fear with Elvis, he ia still having seizures and we're carefully raising his dosage to find a balance.

Unfortunately the kiver is the lesser of two ecils, the neurological and kidney damage (thuroid too) from not being medicated is also irriversible.

As far as liver regeneration vets and Drs are in disagreement, its a big medical debate as far as I understand.

AllDogBoots 06-18-2012 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3950132)
No. The liver damage is only managed. That's our big fear with Elvis, he ia still having seizures and we're carefully raising his dosage to find a balance.

Unfortunately the kiver is the lesser of two ecils, the neurological and kidney damage (thuroid too) from not being medicated is also irriversible.

As far as liver regeneration vets and Drs are in disagreement, its a big medical debate as far as I understand.
Is Elvis taking a supplement. Max took Denamarin daily and we watched his liver levels lower with the supplement. I think his liver is normal now but I'll need to do full blood work on him soon.

concretegurl 06-18-2012 02:19 PM
No but we do the liver test blood work next month I think on the 29 and based on the report we will create the next 1 year epilepay plan, but our plans only ever really last 3- 6 months anyways I get semi bitter the vet calls it the annual progress plan. I'm acceptibg of it all but still there are days I just wanna rant about how nonprogressive epilepsy treatment can be.

AllDogBoots 06-18-2012 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3950140)
No but we do the liver test blood work next month I think on the 29 and based on the report we will create the next 1 year epilepay plan, but our plans only ever really last 3- 6 months anyways I get semi bitter the vet calls it the annual progress plan. I'm acceptibg of it all but still there are days I just wanna rant about how nonprogressive epilepsy treatment can be.
I understand and don't disagree with you.

YazminD 06-19-2012 06:12 AM
Hi Karen,
I've been thinking of you and the Boys while I've been mia on YT lately. Just saw this thread on Max's seizures and was quite scared when I first read it but was so happy so see he's making such great progress with the medication.;) Sending hugs and prayers to you and Max. :)

EarthAngel 06-19-2012 07:39 AM
I'm just seeing this thread, too. Glad to hear Max is doing so well as you lessen the dosage. Prayers he continues to keep symptom free and hugs to you for being such a caring Mom wanting what is best for your boys.:)

AllDogBoots 07-18-2012 03:39 PM
It's been about 8 weeks and Max is doing fantastic! He's on 7.5 mg per day now only in the mornings. I believe I will stop the medication completely next week. Thanks for all of your support:)

yorkieusa 07-18-2012 04:00 PM
That's fantastic news!

Maximo 07-18-2012 05:15 PM
Very happy to hear that Max is doing so well. Praying that he can bid farewell to the medication for good.

YazminD 07-18-2012 05:57 PM
Sending hugs and best wishes to Max. So happy to know he's doing so well. ;)


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