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sugarmamma 05-21-2012 07:45 PM
Good luck with Max and his weaning :hands:

AllDogBoots 05-21-2012 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3925895)
Oh, you have meds on hand if there is a problem with seizures? I would be a bit worried. Seizures do frighten me...I never got used to seeing them in people..cannot imagine in a dog.
I'm a little nervous but not exactly worried. The phenobarb is barely in his system. It's almost below a therapeutic range which makes me feel very good about doing this. Max never had grand mal seizures. He only had focal, head bobbing seizures but his legs would slip out from underneath him. His seizures were minimal, but they were about every 15 minutes, all day long. Now that I type about it, it reminds me how awful it really was :(

ladyjane 05-21-2012 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3925901)
I'm a little nervous but not exactly worried. The phenobarb is barely in his system. It's almost below a therapeutic range which makes me feel very good about doing this. Max never had grand mal seizures. He only had focal, head bobbing seizures but his legs would slip out from underneath him. His seizures were minimal, but they were about every 15 minutes, all day long. Now that I type about it, it reminds me how awful it really was :(
Therapeutic range is just that...therapeutic and in between those numbers is where it should be. Because he is on the lower side of therapeutic does not mean he does not have any in his system. I hope you have spoken with your vet about that.

AllDogBoots 05-21-2012 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3925910)
Therapeutic range is just that...therapeutic and in between those numbers is where it should be. Because he is on the lower side of therapeutic does not mean he does not have any in his system. I hope you have spoken with your vet about that.
Of course he has phenobarbital in his system. He's been on it for almost 2 years. I am surprised you would even question whether or not I have spoken with a vet about this. I thought you knew me a little better than that.

ladyjane 05-21-2012 08:29 PM
I was not questioning you at all. I was only commenting because you said he hardly had any phenobarb in his system and I wondered if the vet had said that because I don't think that is the right interpretation. Maybe I am wrong. I don't know..... Sorry I asked. Hope all goes well for Max. :)

ladyjane 05-21-2012 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3925901)
I'm a little nervous but not exactly worried. The phenobarb is barely in his system. It's almost below a therapeutic range which makes me feel very good about doing this. Max never had grand mal seizures. He only had focal, head bobbing seizures but his legs would slip out from underneath him. His seizures were minimal, but they were about every 15 minutes, all day long. Now that I type about it, it reminds me how awful it really was :(
Sorry, Karen, but that sentence was the reason I asked. I meant no harm at all.

AllDogBoots 05-21-2012 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3925950)
Sorry, Karen, but that sentence was the reason I asked. I meant no harm at all.
No worries. I think so much gets lost in translation when communicating online or solely via words. I'm a much better talker than I am a typer:rolleyes:

I've been thinking about taking him off his meds for about 9 months. It's a tough situation. I don't want to take an epileptic dog off his seizure medication. However, I don't want to medicate a dog who doesn't need it.

I do appreciate your concern:)

Maximo 05-21-2012 08:54 PM
Sending prayers for Max that all will go well and that he won't need to take pheno anymore.

Max and Cooper will still want "medicine" time though for the treat that goes with it, won't they? You are going to have to fake it. That may not be a bad idea anyway. Sometimes the strangest things can have a positive effect on health in humans, so I imagine dogs would be the same.

AllDogBoots 05-21-2012 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3925964)
Sending prayers for Max that all will go well and that he won't need to take pheno anymore.

Max and Cooper will still want "medicine" time though for the treat that goes with it, won't they? You are going to have to fake it. That may not be a bad idea anyway. Sometimes the strangest things can have a positive effect on health in humans, so I imagine dogs would be the same.
Cooper already gets a fake pill. I have an alarm that goes off at 9am and 9pm and they both line up in the kitchen to wait for meds. Lately I've just been putting a dab of fat free cream cheese on my index and pushing the tiny pill into it. I'll continue that, without the pill.

Maximo 05-21-2012 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3925973)
Cooper already gets a fake pill. I have an alarm that goes off at 9am and 9pm and they both line up in the kitchen to wait for meds. Lately I've just been putting a dab of fat free cream cheese on my index and pushing the tiny pill into it. I'll continue that, without the pill.
I think it would be a good idea to continue.

AllDogBoots 05-21-2012 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3925973)
Cooper already gets a fake pill. I have an alarm that goes off at 9am and 9pm and they both line up in the kitchen to wait for meds. Lately I've just been putting a dab of fat free cream cheese on my index and pushing the tiny pill into it. I'll continue that, without the pill.
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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 3925976)
I think it would be a good idea to continue.
I meant my index finger. I have to continue. The boys would be carrying on crying all day if I didn't!

enchilila 05-22-2012 02:28 AM
I'll be keeping Max in my prayers. I hope all goes well with weaning him off the Pheno. Give those two boys a hug from Betty Boop and me. :)

Jenna AK 05-22-2012 03:54 AM
Been AWOL from YT for quite some time, but I think of you and your boys often. (((((Hugs))))))) Hope all goes well with the meds reduction. :)

BonBon 05-22-2012 04:20 AM
That would be wonderful if Max no longer has to take the Pheno. I'll be thinking of him and hoping it goes well. Big hugs for the boys. :)

chachi 05-22-2012 05:34 AM
I hope Max has grown out of his seizures


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