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Patti 02-21-2012 07:56 PM

Glad to hear. Keeping Layla in my prayers.

ladyjane 02-21-2012 09:00 PM

Oh, thank God! I read the first post and was horrified.

I am SO glad that someone finally did a C&S on Layla! This is what we have to do with Gabby. These pups get some nasty infections. No matter how diligent you are about expressing them, they still have residual urine and are prone to UTIs.

Prayers for Layla...

linz06 02-22-2012 07:55 AM

I am done with our local vet. We can take her there for booster shots or whatever, but with any medical issues, we will now go to the college. They know what they're doing and I trust them so much more. They also have the vets on staff that did Layla's surgery and physiotherapy, and they know her history. I know they see IVDD dogs every day and the problems with these dogs are not something new to them. I guess another bonus is the more we take Layla there, the more students will encounter her and learn more about her condition for their future practises as well.

We are cancelling Layla's dental next week and we're just going to focus on getting her bladder and kidneys healthy again! I am so thankful that it is not anything worse, and it's something we can manage!

BlueBelle 02-22-2012 08:17 AM

Chills of relief, I just read this now and was horrified at the prospect of her having a rupture. Prayers for continued good news.

Sandysbabies 02-22-2012 09:15 AM

So glad that vet was wrong. Hoping your baby will be well and back to normal in no time.

Teresa Ford 02-22-2012 09:20 AM

Prayers for you and family and little Layla. I know how stressful it is when they have health problems.

ladyjane 02-22-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by linz06 (Post 3832399)
I am done with our local vet. We can take her there for booster shots or whatever, but with any medical issues, we will now go to the college. They know what they're doing and I trust them so much more. They also have the vets on staff that did Layla's surgery and physiotherapy, and they know her history. I know they see IVDD dogs every day and the problems with these dogs are not something new to them. I guess another bonus is the more we take Layla there, the more students will encounter her and learn more about her condition for their future practises as well.

We are cancelling Layla's dental next week and we're just going to focus on getting her bladder and kidneys healthy again! I am so thankful that it is not anything worse, and it's something we can manage!

Amen to that! I am so glad that you have an option...I do think your vet has been missing some things in Layla's care. This sounds like a terrific plan, Lindsey.
Hope that Layla is better very soon! :)

Maximo 02-22-2012 09:36 AM

Very happy to hear the good news about Layla! My heart sank when I read your thread title.

Sending Layla best wishes and huggles.

linz06 02-22-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3832452)
Amen to that! I am so glad that you have an option...I do think your vet has been missing some things in Layla's care. This sounds like a terrific plan, Lindsey.
Hope that Layla is better very soon! :)

I agree, she has been missing a lot. You know, I feel guilty every day for trusting this vet and not taking Layla directly to emergency when she went down in the first place. The vet seemed so confident that we should just take her home and bring her in for observation the next day. She said even if we did take her to emergency, they wouldn't do anything until morning anyway. I have no doubt in my mind that if we trusted our instincts instead of trusting the vet, Layla would have gotten care that night and she would probably be walking still. I know I can't change the past but I'm glad this time I listened to my instincts and we took her to emergency last night. This could have gotten much worse before getting better.

ladyjane 02-22-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by linz06 (Post 3832471)
I agree, she has been missing a lot. You know, I feel guilty every day for trusting this vet and not taking Layla directly to emergency when she went down in the first place. The vet seemed so confident that we should just take her home and bring her in for observation the next day. She said even if we did take her to emergency, they wouldn't do anything until morning anyway. I have no doubt in my mind that if we trusted our instincts instead of trusting the vet, Layla would have gotten care that night and she would probably be walking still. I know I can't change the past but I'm glad this time I listened to my instincts and we took her to emergency last night. This could have gotten much worse before getting better.

You are right...you cannot live in the past. We all have those moments..but you know, hindsight is 20/20. It is what it is and Layla is so lucky to have you, Lindsey. You will work through all of this and she is a happy pup because of you.

ladyjane 02-22-2012 11:14 AM

Oh, and let me add this: to not trust a doctor or a vet does not come easy for most people. We tend to believe that they know best no matter what.

As in any profession, there are good and not so good vets. We just have to watch, listen and learn. Takes time......

I have gone along with vets in the past to only later look back with regret....but I try not to dwell on it. We do the best we can each day with what we have! :)

Ellie May 02-22-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linz06 (Post 3832471)
I agree, she has been missing a lot. You know, I feel guilty every day for trusting this vet and not taking Layla directly to emergency when she went down in the first place. The vet seemed so confident that we should just take her home and bring her in for observation the next day. She said even if we did take her to emergency, they wouldn't do anything until morning anyway. I have no doubt in my mind that if we trusted our instincts instead of trusting the vet, Layla would have gotten care that night and she would probably be walking still. I know I can't change the past but I'm glad this time I listened to my instincts and we took her to emergency last night. This could have gotten much worse before getting better.

The thought of maybe things turning out differently has got to be very difficult for you, but please forgive yourself. You did NOTHING wrong because you were listening to a vet. You can't be expected and are not expected to know how to practice veterinary medicine. If the blame goes anywhere, it is on the vet, not you.

Now you know for next time - if you are at all unsure, get a second opinion. If you think a vet is right, then, well, sometimes you just have to take a chance and go with it.

Decisions about the spinal cord are not easy. I think they are among the most difficult. I stress about Ellie and where we are with her and would things be different if she wasn't allowed to jump up and down for nine years, etc. But we do the best we can with the information and resources we have.

You are a good owner and I bet Layla doesn't want you to feel guilty either. :)

chachi 02-22-2012 12:01 PM

Im glad Laylas doing okay your title had me nervous for her.

jrsygal37 02-22-2012 12:19 PM

I'm glad your baby is alright. I went through this with a friend a couple of months back. Her 14 yr. old Pom was having issues with going to the bathroom, so we took her to an emergency vet (it was late at night) and they inserted a catherater in her, and it ruptured her bladder. We had to put her down. In my oppinion, which I did not tell my friend as she was in so much emotional pain, but in my oppinion he had seen on the xray, that this poor dog had a large mass and knew the dog was weak so he should have expected that the bladder being this full would be like tissue paper, and knowing about the mass and suspecting cancer he should have not done anything, and just humanely euthanized her without putting her through more suffering. I'm glad it turned out well for you. I hope she continues to have improved health. Elaine

linz06 02-22-2012 01:06 PM

Thank you all so much for your thoughts and support.

I just got a call from the vet. She said Layla's kidneys are in the normal range of function, however, she was a little dehydrated when we took her in yesterday (I'm sure from all her stress with the vets and car rides - she drank a whole bowl when we got home!) and with dehydration, her urine should be more concentrated, but hers was not. She said that shows that the infection is probably in her kidneys as well.

She told us that there was lots of bacteria and white blood cells in Layla's urine. On Saturday, our local vet told us there was a tiny bit of bacteria and no white blood cells.

So our plan of attack is the same as she mentioned last night - to keep her on these antibiotics for a week, and then either switch to new antibiotics or stay on the same ones, depending on the culture results. If we stay on the same ones, she'll have another culture in one week. If we switch, she'll have another culture in two weeks. Then we will continue a long course of treatment so probably 6-8 weeks total of antibiotics, and another culture at the end to make sure the bacteria is totally gone.


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