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ShaftSlinger 07-22-2011 09:21 PM
Dropped Hercules on his back!!!!!!
 
First post, Terribly sorry to ask so much from the forum before i contribute but heres the deal

We have a 3 month old, Hes my fiances and I first dog together and we are absolutely in love with him

Today he started doing this crazy wiggle while my fiance was hold him and she dropped him on his back from about 4 ft in the air, he yelped for a few seconds and i picked him up and cuddled him, he was shook up but able to walk and run and i just thought maybe we lucked out this time.

Now its about 5 hours later and hes not wanting to walk much though he is walking around. He Is sleeping but it is sleep time. When i pick him up and move him around occasionally he yelps. It seems its associated with his neck area. I Felt all of his back vertebrae and he doesnt yelp and i felt his whole head and he doesnt yelp, theres no limping or anyhting. But when i tough around the neck where his shoulder attaches he yelps.

Do i need to take him to the vet er right now or can i wait 7 more hours and take him to his vet in the am?

I dont see any swelling and im not sure what to do. His eyes are glossy or dialated looking either.

lillymae 07-22-2011 09:57 PM
You need to take that baby to the an ER ASAP & get an x-ray. If all looks good you can find a Chiropractor to adjust him. I use Chiros for mine & it's perfectly safe.

My lil friend 07-22-2011 10:35 PM
He deffinately need to see a vet NOW.

ShaftSlinger 07-22-2011 11:36 PM
I took him and they looked him over,

they have diagnosed him with drama king syndrom

they say he is very shook up from the fall and certainly in pain.

The vet said that he yelps anywhere he is touched and that its inconsistent. She said at first it was near his jaw, then near his hips then not on his jaw then no where then everywhere. She said its not uncommon for them to be this shookup when they are this young. She gave me 6ccs of a pain killer for him, we gave him the first dose and there has been zero yelping. He walked and even ran just fine after he got that dose so i think hes ok,

She said she didnt think an xray was needed at this point and wanted us to just watch him till Monday. She said if he hasnt come out of yelp mode then he needs to have an xray.

He has eaten since the fall too so it looks like no hunger strike from the little guy.

I feel much better now as for a bit i was concerned he might have a concussion.

On the way to the vet he yelped like crazy but after we went, he hasnt yelped once.

lillymae 07-22-2011 11:51 PM
I would not have left the office without an x-ray and am surprised that any vet would not think that a dog that had fallen that distance did not need one. I am not surprised that the vet did not feel anything wrong and is more of a reason she should have done an x-ray. He was probably yelping because something is being pinched in his neck or spine. If he continues to show signs of pain I would find a Chiro and take him there as a Chiro can and will find any spine or neck issue just by feeling which most vets cannot do.

Ahis_Mama 07-22-2011 11:56 PM
Glad to hear it's looking up. Sounds like he's living up to his name. lol @ drama king. I hope all stays well.

107barney 07-23-2011 04:03 AM
I'd avoid the chiropractor at all costs. They are not safe in my opinion. I'd stick with what my vet told me to do and watch him carefully. A vet is the only person who can tell you you need an xray. I would ask about it, but if the vet already said one isn't needed, there is no reason for you to waste your money on a dog chiropractor. I would never let a chiropractor touch any of my dogs, ever, not even if they wanted to do it for free.

ladyjane 07-23-2011 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3608245)
I'd avoid the chiropractor at all costs. They are not safe in my opinion. I'd stick with what my vet told me to do and watch him carefully. A vet is the only person who can tell you you need an xray. I would ask about it, but if the vet already said one isn't needed, there is no reason for you to waste your money on a dog chiropractor. I would never let a chiropractor touch any of my dogs, ever, not even if they wanted to do it for free.

Totally agree!

I do want to say that I love the diagnosis! :D

I had a recent very similar incident with one of my pups ... it happened at the vet and my vet did just what the EC vet did with the OPs dog. Examined thoroughly and instructed me to watch him closely for any neuro signs to pop up which never happened. No xray was done, nor was it needed. Honestly, most times if anything is wrong regarding a back, it is not going to show up in an xray anyway.

As for a chiropractor, I would not go to one myself so I sure as heck would not take one of my pups.

ladyjane 07-23-2011 04:22 AM
Oh, and welcome to YT! :)

susan lynn 07-23-2011 04:25 AM
I never heard of a chiropractor for dogs, I use to go to one and he really helped after I hurt my back, but I wouldn't take my dog. Glad you went to the vet and they said Mr Drama King is ok, since he is running aroud. Just watch him and make sure. Welcome, you came to the right place. Wonderful ,fun, people and great information and games.

ShaftSlinger 07-23-2011 04:54 AM
They gave me liquid pain killer and hes suposed to get 1 cc per day if he needs it.

I just checked him out and hes laying on the couch with my fiance, they both look to be sleeping quite fine. Herc got up and had his les stuck far out like he was stretching so i pet him and then he laid his head back down and slep again. Ill watch him today and see if hes got any signs of pain or swelling.

The vet said you can pay for an xray if you want but im certain its not going to turn up anything. She said it would be a waste of money because theres nothing broken.

She said the good thing about puppies is they are very durable to falls and incidental injuries, they heal fast and can take a lot of punishment though sometimes they are pretty vocal about it.

I think im going to shop for a helmet for him today because we have had him 1 week and this is my 2nd omg wtf do i do moment. The other, he fell down 3 stairs when he decided he was ready for stairs but after the first stair realized he wasnt ready.

Luckily no stairs at my house and ive put pillows all around the couch in case he tries to jump off.

Maximo 07-23-2011 06:03 AM
Welcome to YT. Sending positive thoughts for your baby Hercules that he will be okay. A very scary experience for all 3 of you, I'm sure.

ArmaniMan 07-23-2011 06:15 AM
My Armani is the same way- he will act like he is dying over the slightest little thing. These types of pups can honestly be a bit of a pain to deal with because it is hard to determine what is serious and what isn't. With my Chloe I pretty much know if she screams it means ER vet immediately because she is very stoic. Poor Little Drama King- hope he is feeling better soon- I find lots of treats and kisses help my little man :)

AllDogBoots 07-23-2011 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3608257)
Totally agree!

I do want to say that I love the diagnosis! :D

I had a recent very similar incident with one of my pups ... it happened at the vet and my vet did just what the EC vet did with the OPs dog. Examined thoroughly and instructed me to watch him closely for any neuro signs to pop up which never happened. No xray was done, nor was it needed. Honestly, most times if anything is wrong regarding a back, it is not going to show up in an xray anyway.

As for a chiropractor, I would not go to one myself so I sure as heck would not take one of my pups.
I have to admit that I just got online and this is the first thread I'm seeing. I actually went to google the diagnosis as I've never heard of it. I'll be having some more coffee in a few.

Very glad to hear the news!!

megansmomma 07-23-2011 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3608245)
I'd avoid the chiropractor at all costs. They are not safe in my opinion. I'd stick with what my vet told me to do and watch him carefully. A vet is the only person who can tell you you need an xray. I would ask about it, but if the vet already said one isn't needed, there is no reason for you to waste your money on a dog chiropractor. I would never let a chiropractor touch any of my dogs, ever, not even if they wanted to do it for free.
I would never take a dog with a possible neck injury to a chiropractor! No way......I would go back to the vet and ask for an Xray. There have been puppies that have been paralyzed by a fell less than what happened to your little guy. :( I'm hoping that he is perfectly fine and that he is just a Drama King as the vet suspects. :)

Welcome to YT :animal-pa

Teresa Ford 07-23-2011 07:09 AM
Welcome to YT. As you see you will get many opinions and sometimes opposite advice. I say follow your Vets advice. They actually have hands on exam of the puppy and are supposed to know more than we do. I see red flags though when I get the same advice from older more experienced members. I have a great respect for them. Sometimes they speak quite bluntly and feelings can be hurt. But better to have hurt feelings and a living puppy. You will soon learn who, is who, and I hope you love YT as much as I do. Again Welcome from me Teresa and my Just Right Yorkies, Rubin, Gracie, Abba and Ginny Joy.

ShaftSlinger 07-23-2011 07:25 AM
Thank you everyone,

Hes up and is being his normal self today.

We are taking it easy on him but hes being awfully ornery.

So relieved now!

MauiGirl 07-23-2011 08:41 AM
ShaftSlinger, welcome to YorkieTalk. I am so sorry for the scare your little guy put you thru last night.

These little ones can be very willful wigglers, and as you have seen everybody needs to learn to have a safe grip on them. Make sure if you let others hold him that they hold safely too, and it is best to do that sitting down.

I want to commend you for taking him to the vet quickly rather than waiting. I know it's hard to do that when it is night, it's expensive, and you "hope" things will be ok; but time is of the essence if there truly is a problem.

When things settle down, we hope you'll show us pictures and share more about little drama king.:D

107barney 07-23-2011 08:47 AM
No one is ignorant for choosing conventional medicine over a chiropractor. Some simply don't believe in the holistic subjectivity and lack of science of these "alternative" resources.

lillymae 07-23-2011 08:49 AM
Your choice is your choice but the the definition is still the same.

lillymae 07-23-2011 09:03 AM
So now it's a crime to post a definition on YT. Are you kidding me ????? But still OK to Bash and be Rude. I Love it !!! Now I have seen it all.

AllDogBoots 07-23-2011 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3608473)
So now it's a crime to post a definition on YT. Are you kidding me ????? But still OK to Bash and be Rude. I Love it !!! Now I have seen it all.
No one is bashing you. If the OP wants to take her dog to a chiropractor she will. If she wants to PM you, she will. Everyone has different opinions. This conversation gets so old each time :rolleyes:

lillymae 07-23-2011 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3608477)
No one is bashing you. If the OP wants to take her dog to a chiropractor she will. If she wants to PM you, she will. Everyone has different opinions. This conversation gets so old each time :rolleyes:
You are rite it does get old and so does the one way street that a few here can talk down to others and now apparently you can't post a definition on YT as mine has been removed. It was Not posted in bad conscience so I don't see any reason for it to have been removed. Do you ? It was not something I made up, it was a Truth that came straight from the Dictionary.

megansmomma 07-23-2011 09:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3608473)
So now it's a crime to post a definition on YT. Are you kidding me ????? But still OK to Bash and be Rude. I Love it !!! Now I have seen it all.
There was a crime committed?? Do I need to call the police :eek::rolleyes:

AllDogBoots 07-23-2011 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3608487)
You are rite it does get old and so does the one way street that a few here can talk down to others and now apparently you can't post a definition on YT as mine has been removed. It was Not posted in bad conscience so I don't see any reason for it to have been removed. Do you ? It was not something I made up, it was a Truth that came straight from the Dictionary.
I am right and I do believe it was posted in bad conscience. I'm not going to debate with you. The thread is about Hercules...not my feelings.

megansmomma 07-23-2011 09:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3608487)
You are rite it does get old and so does the one way street that a few here can talk down to others and now apparently you can't post a definition on YT as mine has been removed. It was Not posted in bad conscience so I don't see any reason for it to have been removed. Do you ? It was not something I made up, it was a Truth that came straight from the Dictionary.
Knowing Cathy personally she would be the first person I would turn to for an opinion when it came to the medical care I give my three. She goes above and beyond when it come to taking proper care of her pups.

I have to ask~do you even own a dog? :confused: I've never seen you post a picture, your avatar is empty, you have no albums and you never posts ta ype of reference to owning a pet. I'm very confused? :confused:

I apologize in advance to the OPer of this thread that once again things have been derailed when an injury or neuro issue is involved. I truly hope your little Hercules continues to do well.

lillymae 07-23-2011 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3608488)
There was a crime committed?? Do I need to call the police :eek::rolleyes:
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Do you see me making light of someone elses post ? NO ! and am sick of having to defend MY Rights. So if you have found a crime here then feel free to call whomever you would like.
I thought that YT was for people to share & help others and I'm a little sick of others being negative about things they know nothing about that could very well help a sick or injured dog. There is info on Chiropractic treatment rite here on YT that I did Not put here, so maybe since everyone thinks is so horrible it should be removed.

lillymae 07-23-2011 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3608495)
Knowing Cathy personally she would be the first person I would turn to for an opinion when it came to the medical care I give my three. She goes above and beyond when it come to taking proper care of her pups.

I have to ask~do you even own a dog? :confused: I've never seen you post a picture, your avatar is empty, you have no albums and you never posts ta ype of reference to owning a pet. I'm very confused? :confused:

I apologize in advance to the OPer of this thread that once again things have been derailed when an injury or neuro issue is involved. I truly hope your little Hercules continues to do well.
Yes, I have 5 dogs & 4 cats and All are special needs, not that any of it is anyones business. Who is Cathy & exactly what does she have to do with any of this ?

megansmomma 07-23-2011 09:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3608473)
So now it's a crime to post a definition on YT. Are you kidding me ????? But still OK to Bash and be Rude. I Love it !!! Now I have seen it all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3608499)
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Do you see me making light of someone elses post ? NO ! and am sick of having to defend MY Rights. So if you have found a crime here then feel free to call whomever you would like.
I thought that YT was for people to share & help others and I'm a little sick of others being negative about things they know nothing about that could very well help a sick or injured dog. There is info on Chiropractic treatment rite here on YT that I did Not put here, so maybe since everyone thinks is so horrible it should be removed.
Please see the very first sentence above :)

LoALAnna 07-23-2011 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaftSlinger (Post 3608270)
They gave me liquid pain killer and hes suposed to get 1 cc per day if he needs it.

I just checked him out and hes laying on the couch with my fiance, they both look to be sleeping quite fine. Herc got up and had his les stuck far out like he was stretching so i pet him and then he laid his head back down and slep again. Ill watch him today and see if hes got any signs of pain or swelling.

The vet said you can pay for an xray if you want but im certain its not going to turn up anything. She said it would be a waste of money because theres nothing broken.

She said the good thing about puppies is they are very durable to falls and incidental injuries, they heal fast and can take a lot of punishment though sometimes they are pretty vocal about it.

I think im going to shop for a helmet for him today because we have had him 1 week and this is my 2nd omg wtf do i do moment. The other, he fell down 3 stairs when he decided he was ready for stairs but after the first stair realized he wasnt ready.

Luckily no stairs at my house and ive put pillows all around the couch in case he tries to jump off.
Ah, this takes me back to when Neo was a pup! I wish I'd have known that there is actually a website that has tiny helmets for our babies. I believe it is RockStarPups and they carry all kinds of cute stuff.
We used to have all kinds of OMG/WTF moments at first, but Neo and us survived! Every time something happens, it makes you more aware and cautious and careful. Just keep the vet on speed dial, lol!
By the way, welcome to YT!


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