Don't know how I missed the Nature Logic part. I tried to give Rosie Natures Logic because where I was buying the Instinct was really pushing it. It tore her tummy up. She was so sick that is when we ended up at the vet and switched back to the I/D. Just a thought...

hmm, that was the only different thing that he was given. I am not going to give them it any more.

Update
 

Hot Rod seemed better this moring so I kept my appt and was gone for about 3 hours. When I got home he was up and around and greeted me somewhat excitedly but not as per usual. I checked his gums and they were okay but he was still not 100%.

Long story short, he was shaking slightly again. Had not gotten to get Nutrical yet as traffic around here is horrible for the holiday, we on the direct path to the beach and traffic was started to back up when I left at 8:00 am.

It tookk hubby 1/2 hour to drive 5 miles home from work! I will go once traffic slows down in a bit.

Anyhow vet was closed but she called me back and told her about yesterday and she said to give him more syrup and a small amout of ground beef (he is allergic to chicken) and rice and see if he continues to shake and check gums. If he still exhibited signs, call her right away. Although he was shaking, he was still active, when hubby came home he got all excited and greeted him.

anyhow, this was @ 1:00 and since then, he's as though nothing was wrong, barking when hubby dropped something against the wall in the garage and going after maggie over it, :rolleyes:-does this all the time and he even went to his normal food and ate some. I picked it up right away and gave him the beef and rice and he gobbled it up. Now he's wagging his tail and running.

Have taken him out twice but nothing, just peeing. Each time we came back in he drank water.

His gums are normally not pinky pink, they are on the lighter side so that's why I couldn't really tell, but then last night they seemed to be greyish white.

So far at 3:00 he's run around the house and now he's sleeping on my desk as I'm typing. He has not shaken at all since the karo and food. I will give him some more food in 15 minutes as it was only like a 2 tablespoons of food earlier. So still keeping an eye on him but I think the worst is past.

I am wondering if his glands are bothering him. It's been about 4 1/2 weeks since they've been done.

I am sorry to hear Hot Rod is feeling under the weather. I hope it is nothing more than a upset system and he is feeling better soon.

hmmmm, It could be the anal glands...Mimi needs them done about every 2-3 weeks & afterwards she'll have the biggest bowel movement ever lolll.

U know, Princess was never able to digest raw carrots. She would get a little speck of blood & some mucousy poop after eating them. Maybe Hot Rod might have a sensitive digestive tract like her.

The shaking thing might be because he wants his mommy to baby him. I'm not kidding you, Mimi used to do it to me & I'd make such a big fuss over her thinking she had low blood sugar or something spooked her. But she'll be fine when she sees grandpa a minute later, wagging her tail & bringing him her fav toy to play. hahaa

If he's eating his food, I don't think you need to give him anymore karo. Don't want him sugar crashing either. Hope Hot Rod will be back to his normal self very soon!

Just seeing this now. Well, I would not be comfortable with this situation without a vet exam and basic blood work. I hope he feels ok tonight.

Sending well wishes to Hot Rod and praying that he is 100% soon.

Please give Hot Rod a kiss for us; I hope he feels better soon.

Sending kisses too, Hot Rod. Mommie's watching you with loving care.

Have been out of town but home now. Was wondering how your Hot Rod was doing?

Keeping Hot Rod (and mom) in our thoughts and hoping he is feeling better!!

Huggs

glad he is feeling better take good care of him and you Happy fourth of july

I am just seeing this! Was out of town all weekend.

Poor guy. I hate to see them not feeling right when you are unsure what to do for them. Maybe his tummy was just bothering him.

I am glad he sounds as if he is on the mend! Keep us updated.

Keeping Hot Rod in my thoughts and prayers. Hoping he feels better soon.

I am so sorry for not updating. :( I was going to and then time got a way and so on and so on. I have a video but was trying to get it onto youtube and can't figure how to do so from my phone...it's showing how the little devil is feeling better and being fiesty.

thank you all for your prayers and sweet comments and concerns. It definitely helped and thankfully he's all better.

Have you scheduled an appt. to get some blood work done?
Hopefully whatever it was has passed, but what happened to his gums is not normal and a major concern. If it did go hypo, what if it happens when you are sleep or out of the house? I'd wonder if there is an underlying something or other going on.

I'm thinking it's his glands because he is walking with his butt in the air a little bit. I'm going to take him in tomorrow when I am off work. He's been eating like a bandit and pooping almost back to his normal schedule now and driving his sister nuts again.

I should have said that I cook the carrots first. I don't like giving raws cause I worry about them biting of too big of a piece and possibly choking. Hot rod loves his carrots.

And wouldn't you know it...I found my Nurtical...it was right where it was supposed to be, with the rest of the upkeep stuff for them--frontline, heartworm stuff--I just didn't see the tube. :eek:

Please don't think that I'm taking this lightly, not at all.

Do you thinkt that I should have get blood work done? His last bloodwork was in Feb. when he went for dentals.

His gums are usually not pinky pink like Maggies anyhow, although they were on the grayish side that night. I am wondering if I didn't administer the karo right the first time as I was smearing it on his mouth instead of is gums. the next day when I gave him some more, I smeared in on his gums and he did seem to perk up quicker and was more alert than the first night.

I'm not opposed by any means to taking him in but I am wondering if I didn't do something correctly. he's eating and pooping almost back to his schedule.

I need to stop by the vets office to visit my friends yorkie who's in with his diangosis of kidney failure and will talk with my vet about hot rod.

We all have different comfort levels as do our vets.

Adult Yorkies should not suddenly go hypoglycemic after eating very little for a day. The fact that the sugar did help the gum color would suggest that it was a sugar issue. That shouldn't be. So yes, if Ellie's gums went grayish and Nutrical helped, I'd be wondering why because it is not normal. And for it to happen twice and the sugar to help twice, I'd be very concerned that there is something going on here.

I'd wonder why an adult dog suddenly can't regulate blood sugar. So yes, I'd be doing bloods unless my vet could give a very good explanation about why it happened.

The other symptoms could have been anal glands. Not sure how weird gum color would go with that.

Fantastic news. So glad Hot Rod is feeling better and getting back to his 'fiesty' self !!! :)

I agree that an adult dog going hypoglycemic is not normal and I'd be running bloddwork.

I agree about the low blood sugar after a day of not eating as there have been other times he's not eaten and no problems. I started trying to remember his eating habits when this happened...he's always been fussy and picky but to the best of my recollection, he was eating, at least his breakfast. I usually have my breakfast as they eat because they will not eat unless I sit with them. and as far as I remembered, he was eating.

I will definitely speak with the vet when I go. I am hoping to get there a little bit when I take my lunch break.

Thanks.

I agree. He's always been a picky and fussy eater but was actually thinking that he was imrpoving as he's been eating his breakfast. Dinner was/is okay, he goes back thru the night as he doesn't finish it up right away.

The other thing that was different was the nature's logic that I was using for treats, I wonder if that contributed to any of this as he had mucousy poo when he finally pooped. He seemed better after he did. (??)

JMHO: Sounds as if it may be an intestinal issue. Could he have bitten off a chunk of the bully stick?

With his intermmitant symptoms, it sounds like something may be trying to move through his system and does for a bit, then stops. His hypoglycemia is a bit of a concern too.

So a hands on exam by the vet would be on my list of things that may need doing. Then he can decide if bloodwork or an xray might be needed. They can tell alot just by palpating them.

A partial blockage may have been the cause of the sugar issue.

Anal glands usually affect behavior more, unless they abcess then you have to deal with infection, fever and such. But they usually don't run around playing on and off either...

spoke with the vet when I stopped by the office and she said we should do a baseline test and she will examine Hot Rod. She reiterated what everyone has said that he one meal/day should not have caused the episode. We have an appt tomorrow so I will also have his glands done then and we can see if they might have caused anything.

This vet has Hot Rod's primary vet since we taken him there, after his neuter @ 6 1/2 mos; he's now almost 4. He does sees 2nd vet there when she is not available. The good thing with the 2nd vet is that she shows, either Norfolk or Norwich terriers-I can't remember which. So between the 2 vets, I can say that we are in good hands.

I will update once I know know more.

I don't think he swallowed a piece of bully stick...he chews on them but usually will stop after a few moments and it only looks likes it's been gnawed, not broken off--I usually look at them after Maggie swallowed a piece one time. I did give them Nature's Logic kibble as treats while doing tricks with them the night before and this was the only different thing that was given. I know that this may sound silly, but they get Stella and Chewy's freeze dried patties, can the kibble have been hard on his system and caused this? That particular day I know they didn't get treats as I was not home; they just got their regular meals.

Just thinking, two days before, I also gave them a new brand of sweet potato treats. My neighbor gave them to me. They are round shaped and hard as a rock. I cut them into smaller pieces and gave them these. The pieces are in at least 1/4 size or smaller. I wonder if this could have caused some kind of blockage. I did see a bit of orange in the mucousy pooped. These treats were given on Wednesday as I worked on Thursday so I wasn't home.

Glad to see Hot Rod is feeling better. I think I would feel better if bloodwork was done. I tend to be a bit of a worry-wart :) but would fear that an underlying problem might arise again.

Please let us know what you find out.

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No doubt. :)

Yes, anything that is unusually hard and dry can possibly cause a blockage. My Sapphire had issues with 1/4-1/2 inch long but very thin coconut chips. I gave them to her one at a time, and she appeared to chew them... haha... they came out two days later, clumped together all in one piece. And she did go through two days of being a bit bloated, and not acting right. She had been having a few BMs a day, so I wasn't too worried... but I did watch her like a hawk! I was about to run her in to my vet when she finally pooped the chips out, and seeing them all stuck together, it all made sense. None of my other pups had this problem though. Also, she always ate most of her meals, so I never noticed any other changes with her.

I'm so glad you're getting bloodwork :). You just never know w/ these kiddos; it can be so scary. Keep us posted!