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tjdmom 06-24-2011 05:36 PM
wanted to add that you might want to try getting some calcium into her.... either calsorb if you have on hand or if not maybe some tums?

BabyGirl Rosie 06-24-2011 05:36 PM
Just curious, did you research any of this before your dog got pregnant? It might help you to be more prepared in ER situations. I wish you the best. I hope it all works out for your baby girl.

carmen in nj 06-24-2011 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KParker (Post 3576948)
I know what to look for if she is havin trouble and she seems to be ok, I font know how many she is having im just worried that the first pup has died, will she be doing anything wrong?
is this her first pregnancy? a leg first puppy happens, so that is nothing out of the ordinary, is seen often in whelpings, you NEED to get close to her, she might be in a lot of pain you can try to give her some goats milk, one egg yolk beaten and 2 tablespoons of Karo syrop, mixed well and let her drink it, it will help with her energy and contractions. Keep an eye on her, if she goes in distress due to a puppy being stuck in the birth canal.PLEASE take the dead puppy away from her!!

ladyjane 06-24-2011 05:44 PM
PLEASE listen to the advice you are being given here. You could lose mom and her pups. :(

carmen in nj 06-24-2011 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 3576957)
wanted to add that you might want to try getting some calcium into her.... either calsorb if you have on hand or if not maybe some tums?
I was going to suggest that but I figure she did not have any calsorb, so I think the goats milk drink is the best thing for her, if she is not going to take her to the vet.. :confused:

ladyjane 06-24-2011 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 3576973)
I was going to suggest that but I figure she did not have any calsorb, so I think the goats milk drink is the best thing for her, if she is not going to take her to the vet.. :confused:
I would have already been to a vet with bite marks on my hands. I was at the EC one night and saw a pup come in like that...they lost all but one pup and almost lost mom. It was horrible. :(

KParker 06-24-2011 05:46 PM
Rite Iv just managed to get in and check on her, shes had another and its moving around, she was licking it and cleaning it but when I got to close she began to growl again so I left her to it. the pup was not making any noise but was definalty moving around and I think it was trying to nuzzle, is this right straight after birth or could I jus be wrong and its just moving about?

McheleM 06-24-2011 05:53 PM
Surely you did some sort of research when you found out she was pregnant???

I would be at the ER vet....but that's me. My 1lb puppy has been at the vet 10 days.

carmen in nj 06-24-2011 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3576976)
I would have already been to a vet with bite marks on my hands. I was at the EC one night and saw a pup come in like that...they lost all but one pup and almost lost mom. It was horrible. :(
YEP, I saw a HORRIBLE birth like that too.. and is heart breaking, my girl lets me pull the placenta out of her mouth because I only allow her to eat ONE, I also feather her to feel the puppies while she is in labor and so on..
so is a bit hard for me to understand, letting a bitch take over.:confused:

ladyjane 06-24-2011 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 3576985)
YEP, I saw a HORRIBLE birth like that too.. and is heart breaking, my girl lets me pull the placenta out of her mouth because I only allow her to eat ONE, I also feather her to feel the puppies while she is in labor and so on..
so is a bit hard for me to understand, letting a bitch take over.:confused:
I don't know anything about breeding, but I have read enough to know that a small dog should never be left alone to handle it themselves. They need assistance, period.
I am going to be saying extra prayers here.

luckylady 06-24-2011 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KParker (Post 3576977)
Rite Iv just managed to get in and check on her, shes had another and its moving around, she was licking it and cleaning it but when I got to close she began to growl again so I left her to it. the pup was not making any noise but was definalty moving around and I think it was trying to nuzzle, is this right straight after birth or could I jus be wrong and its just moving about?
Agreed that research should have been done as soon as you knew she was pregnant, but this is not the time for lectures; it's time to come together to help a dog in labor.

From your last post it seems she has a live pup. Is it the first one that you thought was dead or is this a 2nd pup. If so, where is the dead one?

I don't know what your relationship with your dog was before now, but it sounds to me like she A. - is very nervous (and in pain or discomfort from labor) which would attribute to her aggressiveness towards you, and/or B. - she senses your nervousness which in turn causes her to be more nervous than she is, also causing aggression. You need to keep your cool and go in there and STAY with her; even if you just sit there and watch. Slowly, when you are calm, inch your way closer to her as you gain her trust. Look at her and her pups to make sure she and they are okay.

IF you see she is still having trouble, please don't call, just take her and whatever pups she has to the nearest ER vet. One seemingly small problem can get BIG very quickly and you could lose her and pups.

BabyGirl Rosie 06-24-2011 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by luckylady (Post 3576998)
Agreed that research should have been done as soon as you knew she was pregnant, but this is not the time for lectures; it's time to come together to help a dog in labor.

From your last post it seems she has a live pup. Is it the first one that you thought was dead or is this a 2nd pup. If so, where is the dead one?

I don't know what your relationship with your dog was before now, but it sounds to me like she A. - is very nervous (and in pain or discomfort from labor) which would attribute to her aggressiveness towards you, and/or B. - she senses your nervousness which in turn causes her to be more nervous than she is, also causing aggression. You need to keep your cool and go in there and STAY with her; even if you just sit there and watch. Slowly, when you are calm, inch your way closer to her as you gain her trust. Look at her and her pups to make sure she and they are okay.

IF you see she is still having trouble, please don't call, just take her and whatever pups she has to the nearest ER vet. One seemingly small problem can get BIG very quickly and you could lose her and pups.

Very good advice!

ladyjane 06-24-2011 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by luckylady (Post 3576998)
Agreed that research should have been done as soon as you knew she was pregnant, but this is not the time for lectures; it's time to come together to help a dog in labor.

From your last post it seems she has a live pup. Is it the first one that you thought was dead or is this a 2nd pup. If so, where is the dead one?

I don't know what your relationship with your dog was before now, but it sounds to me like she A. - is very nervous (and in pain or discomfort from labor) which would attribute to her aggressiveness towards you, and/or B. - she senses your nervousness which in turn causes her to be more nervous than she is, also causing aggression. You need to keep your cool and go in there and STAY with her; even if you just sit there and watch. Slowly, when you are calm, inch your way closer to her as you gain her trust. Look at her and her pups to make sure she and they are okay.

IF you see she is still having trouble, please don't call, just take her and whatever pups she has to the nearest ER vet. One seemingly small problem can get BIG very quickly and you could lose her and pups.
No one is lecturing....trying to get the same message across that you are. Sometimes a horror story or two might help. This pup is in danger if she does not watch closely and/or get her to a vet.

carmen in nj 06-24-2011 06:20 PM
I did not mean to sound like lecturing my apologies if it came across that way, I sense FEAR on the owner's side, and nerves too, so all that might have the bitch over the top. I hope she follows advise and is very important that she gets some calcium and nutricion in that girl NOW.

Woogie Man 06-24-2011 06:33 PM
You either have to get in there or take her to the vet so someone can watch over and assist this Mom.

Sometimes right after giving birth the Mom is so focused on the afterbirth and can ignore the pup. It could die if the sac isn't opened. Also, there's a very real danger of her injuring or killing a pup. It can get eaten along with an after birth or the Mom could chew a leg tearing the sac. When it comes to cutting the cord, it's very easy for the Mom to cause a hernia or even to pull out the baby's intestines. For those reasons, it's important to be right there....tear the sac and cut the baby's cord. This breed can't have babies on their own.

Not meaning to sound rude, but do you know how? How far away is the ER vet?


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