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dryoasis88 05-19-2011 08:18 AM

Anaphylactic Shock
 
*Hepburn is currently fine, home, alert etc. Just wanted to share his terrible day*

As if it wasn't enough that 4 weeks ago, Hepburn was bitten very badly by another dog (http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...ked-today.html), today we went to the vet for his regular vaccinations and shortly after receiving them he went into full blown anaphylactic shock! It was way scarier than the dog bite. He stumbled, then fell on the floor, and stopped breathing. I picked him up and he almost flopped out of my arms. He then peed himself and pooped himself as I rushed him back into the room where the vet was (I was thank god still in the office waiting to pay my bill or else I am not sure he would still be with me). The vet immediately took him away from me and gave him oxygen and a cortisone shot to stop the reaction. He was in shock for about an hour and now he is home and drinking a lot of water.

I wanted to tell his story because I know if I hadn't stayed in the office to wait for my bill and I was on my home on my bike, he wouldn't have made it. Please please stay in your vet's office for at least 15-30 minutes after receiving vaccines. It could save your dog's life. The vet told me it is not entirely unusual to develop an allergy to a vaccine even after receiving it a few times (which was the case for Hepburn).

I hope this helps someone out.

gidget529 05-19-2011 08:21 AM

Poor little Hepburn! He definitely has had a time of it! Glad to hear you were still in the vet's office when this happened. Please be careful not to give your dog that vaccine again. If he has had a severe reaction to a vaccine, he should never receive that vaccine again.

So glad he is ok and thanks for posting your exp to help others!

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 08:27 AM

Yeah, I made sure the vet noted not only in his files, but also in my EU pet passport, should I switch vets and not be able to remember which vaccine it was. The vet said when he is due again for vaccines, he would give them in intervals of 2 weeks over a longer period and watch the dog for an hour after each shot. The vaccine he got today was a combination of everything he needed right now, so this will help to make sure he doesn't have a reaction and if he should have one again, that he is the best hands possible to get past it.

Maximo 05-19-2011 08:33 AM

Thank goodness Hepburn is okay! You must have been so scared. You are your little guy have been through so much recently.

Many people in this forum advise staying at the vet's office for anywhere between 30 minutes to 2 hours after vaccinations, just to be on the safe side. I'm glad you were still at the office.

Which vaccines did he have?

kjc 05-19-2011 08:39 AM

Oh no! Truly scary.... so glad he was saved!

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 09:32 AM

I am not sure what all the things are called in German (since I live in Germany and such) but I know that he was vaccinated for rabies, distemper, parvo, adenovirus, hepatitis, Leptospirosis, and parainfluenza type 2. He only had one injection for all these things. The company that makes the vaccine appears to be Meridal, with the name Eurican appearing as well. The vet says this 7 part vaccine is standard in Germany for dogs older than 1 year getting their booster vaccination.

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 09:32 AM

Sorry, I meant I am not sure what things are called in English, but I wikipedia translated all of them for you (I only knew them in German or English, not the connection between the names.)

107barney 05-19-2011 09:35 AM

I'm glad Hepburn was ok. Please do not vaccinate this dog again as this happened to an owner here and Brandi did not make it the next time.

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 09:38 AM

There is no way around vaccinating him again. I travel with him internationally and he is required to be vaccinated at least against rabies to enter the US and return to Germany where I live. The other vaccines we will have to see. We live in a major city, so he has contact with many dogs on a daily basis. The vet said he will take extra care to monitor him and give him the shots over a longer period rather than all at once to minimize the risk of allergic reaction.

MauiGirl 05-19-2011 09:42 AM

Thank God Hepburn is ok.

Wow, that is a whopping amount of vaccinations at one time, and hopefully will never be done again.

This serves as a good warning to other pet owners. Since my vet is over an hour from my home, I always stay either in the parking lot or near his office for at least an hour or 2 after vaccinations are given.

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 09:49 AM

Yes, I was very wary when they did all the vaccines at once. Hepburn only weighs 4 pounds but he seemed fine for about 20 minutes before he seized and then stopped breathing. It was scarier by far than the dog bite, at least then he wasn't even bleeding, he just was very upset. This was also much more life threatening than the dog bite, which didn't seem so mild at the time but now seems easy (except the surgery part). I just worry that he will have another reaction next year. He needs Leptospirosis again next may and that is a killed vaccine, which already by itself with no history of problems has a higher risk of anaphylactic shock and sudden death than a live vaccine. The rabies vaccine, which is almost always killed, is the one he needs to travel so despite the risk, he legally has to have it every 3 years... (not just to travel actually, to be registered in Germany)

xmasbaby75 05-19-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dryoasis88 (Post 3541108)
There is no way around vaccinating him again. I travel with him internationally and he is required to be vaccinated at least against rabies to enter the US and return to Germany where I live. The other vaccines we will have to see. We live in a major city, so he has contact with many dogs on a daily basis. The vet said he will take extra care to monitor him and give him the shots over a longer period rather than all at once to minimize the risk of allergic reaction.

Wow, this shocks me reading this, as I am quite familiar with vaccine reactions. Unfortunately, my little girl was not as lucky.
Please read her story here: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/mem...y75s-pain.html

It seems to me that you are not understanding the seriousness of this, If your dog has a serious reation to vaccines (which he did) - each reaction will be worse and worse - next time could be the time that ends his life. Do you really want to take that chance? It's too late for my little girl, but please, don't let this happen to you!! All you need to do to get around the "requirements" is get a note from your vet saying that he reacts to vaccines.

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 10:22 AM

I am so so sorry that your baby girl didn't make it. I can't imagine the pain you felt. I am still torn up and I am lucky to still have my little boy with me. I assure you that I am aware of the risk and the seriousness of a reaction, but at the same time I have to take into consideration what I can do to avoid him needing further vaccination. I will have to check with the procedure in Germany on whether a note will suffice. I am sure that a note would be no issue to get back the US, but I need to be able to return to Germany afterwards, since I live here. The only other option is leaving my baby for 8 weeks a year in a kennel, which will also not take him without vaccines and would be a huge risk for an unvaccinated dog, or with a friend or paid sitter, which I first of all can't afford and second of all would never do. not for 8 weeks. So until I do more research, I am not sure what the situation is when he needs to be vaccinate again. I can only hope that there is a way to get around the requirements, but I am not sure I have a choice should a note not suffice. I will do my research on rabies exemption for germany and see what comes up.

xmasbaby75 05-19-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dryoasis88 (Post 3541153)
I am so so sorry that your baby girl didn't make it. I can't imagine the pain you felt. I am still torn up and I am lucky to still have my little boy with me. I assure you that I am aware of the risk and the seriousness of a reaction, but at the same time I have to take into consideration what I can do to avoid him needing further vaccination. I will have to check with the procedure in Germany on whether a note will suffice. I am sure that a note would be no issue to get back the US, but I need to be able to return to Germany afterwards, since I live here. The only other option is leaving my baby for 8 weeks a year in a kennel, which will also not take him without vaccines and would be a huge risk for an unvaccinated dog, or with a friend or paid sitter, which I first of all can't afford and second of all would never do. not for 8 weeks. So until I do more research, I am not sure what the situation is when he needs to be vaccinate again. I can only hope that there is a way to get around the requirements, but I am not sure I have a choice should a note not suffice. I will do my research on rabies exemption for germany and see what comes up.

I understand your concerns, but if I was faced with the choice of leaving my baby in a kennel for 8 weeks, or possibly never having the chance to see my baby again ... it's a pretty simple choice. I would rather not travel at all than deal with the consequences of another vaccine reaction. I am shocked that your vet is even considering vaccinating him again. I'm not trying to scare you, I am just simply giving you the facts. Ultimately, you will have to make that decision, and live with that choice.

dryoasis88 05-19-2011 10:46 AM

I am really glad you are sharing this information with me, because it does help me make an informed decision. Not traveling is 100% not an option. I live on a different continent from my family and if I stopped traveling, I would rarely see my parents or sister and never see my extended family, with whom I am rather close despite the physical distance. I have three years before he is due for his rabies booster (he is supposed to get a lepto booster next year, but it is not required and I am not getting it) and I will not have him vaccinated again unless there is really no way around it. If the law in Germany states that he legally must be vaccinated for rabies and there is no way to get a medical exemption, I have no choice but to leave the country or get him vaccinated. As much as I would like to just have the option of leaving the country, it is not really realistic. I have three long years to find a way out of the rabies vaccine or have the laws change, so I am only glad that Germany switched two years ago to a 3 year rabies vaccine requirement. It used to be every year.


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