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shodanusmc 09-14-2010 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by emopoops (Post 3270211)
vomiting blood is from the exact same thing thats making the dog pee or poop blood, there may be something bad that the dog ate!!!! it messed with the digestion and the dog vomitted, then wehn it went further, the dog pooed or peed blood! its either already came out of the butt or its still in there, but theres not a way to tell without doing anything because there is a rip or gash that made the dog bleed in the first place! HOPE IT COMES OUT IF IT HASNT ALREADY!
Professor Irwin Corey I presume?

Rhetts_mama 09-14-2010 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by emopoops (Post 3270211)
vomiting blood is from the exact same thing thats making the dog pee or poop blood, there may be something bad that the dog ate!!!! it messed with the digestion and the dog vomitted, then wehn it went further, the dog pooed or peed blood! its either already came out of the butt or its still in there, but theres not a way to tell without doing anything because there is a rip or gash that made the dog bleed in the first place! HOPE IT COMES OUT IF IT HASNT ALREADY!

Not necessarily. It's one thing to rule out, but you need to look further for things like IBD. If you read the OP's description, he has had previous episodes of this that would rule out a foreign body.

Good overview on IBD, including history and tests.
Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) in Dogs

ally173 09-14-2010 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3270221)
Not necessarily. It's one thing to rule out, but you need to look further for things like IBD. If you read the OP's description, he has had previous episodes of this that would rule out a foreign body.

Good overview on IBD, including history and tests.
Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) in Dogs
yes totally agree; my dog had same exact symptoms and she was finally diganosed with IBD; for some reasons many vets wont suspect it right away or maybe not familiar with it. for a definite diagnosis you will need an endoscopy or colonoscopy with biopsy. if this is a case of IBD the inflammation won't go away on its own; you need meds for that. so please talk to your vet soon as this disease is very painful.

shodanusmc 09-14-2010 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by emopoops (Post 3270226)
obviously the inside of the dog is inflammed hon, but dont be so quick to put on a disease, let me tell you the leading cause of this is from consuming too hard or sharp of foods and "foreign objects"
now wait for the blood to stop and hopefully all will be fine and you can keep your dog from eating the same stuff its been eating that has made it vomit and crap blood

And if the vomiting and blood is from Pancreatitis, it is best just to watch TV and read a good book, as doing nothing is the best form of medicine. I am glad you were not a Corpsman in Nam!

ally173 09-14-2010 07:27 AM
yes the inflammation can be cause by something he ate; however even if the bleeding stops the inflammation is not going anywhere; and any little thing (even stress) can trigger another flare up. so please he needs to be seen by a vet asap.

shodanusmc 09-14-2010 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by emopoops (Post 3270254)
you are wrong. once the bleeding stops and the thing inside the dog is out, it will cease. the dog will be fine and it will heal.
What is your guess as to the thing inside the dog? A lifeform of some type? Are you wearing a tinfoil helmet as you post?

ally173 09-14-2010 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by emopoops (Post 3270254)
you are wrong. once the bleeding stops and the thing inside the dog is out, it will cease. the dog will be fine and it will heal.
from val's last post (seperate post); the vet did an xray and there was no obstruction. also the dog was eating, drinking and pooping fine within the past few days. anyway we can't sit her and guess; she will find out when she brings her dog to the vet for further examination. by the way it's almost impossible for the intestine to get inflammation, bleed and then heal on their own. trust me i suffered 2.5 years with my dog; and no one knew how to diagnose her until this year; nothing brought down the inflammation except prednisone. so i am speaking from my experience. best of luck val.

Princes mom 09-14-2010 08:34 AM
Sending prayers for Pippin to have a full recovery, and for you to get some much needed rest.

valerieam 09-14-2010 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zowiandnikasmom (Post 3270164)
so sorry to hear about this little baby still not getting better! has pancreatitis been ruled out? i will keep you both in my thoughts and prayers & hope your little one gets well very very soon! it is so hard when they are sick!
From the blood tests during the first episode they don't think it's pancreatitis. Thank you for the good wishes.

valerieam 09-14-2010 09:56 AM
The vet called this morning to check on Pippin. He doesn't want to make any changes right now until we get this under control. Then he wants to do an x-ray to rule out a foreign object. If that is negative to send him to a specialist in San Francisco. I'm thinking of asking him when he's better to just refer me to the specialist. I know it would rule out one more thing, but I think if it was a foreign object there wouldn't be 3 months between of no problems.

I mentioned to him predisone, and he said he had been thinking about that but he doesn't want to do anything else right now.

I told him about the hornet last night, and that I think Pip ate one a week or two ago, and he said that could have triggered this. He said stress also could have caused it. My daughter had brought over her dog a week ago and he kept taking Pippin's toys away from him, and Pippin is such a sissy he wouldn't go over and try and get it back. He just would go to my daughter and cry for her to go get it. The trowing up started that night.

I just don't want to see him go through this again. Every time it has been more intense and lasted longer.

ally173 09-14-2010 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by valerieam (Post 3270421)
The vet called this morning to check on Pippin. He doesn't want to make any changes right now until we get this under control. Then he wants to do an x-ray to rule out a foreign object. If that is negative to send him to a specialist in San Francisco. I'm thinking of asking him when he's better to just refer me to the specialist. I know it would rule out one more thing, but I think if it was a foreign object there wouldn't be 3 months between of no problems.

I mentioned to him predisone, and he said he had been thinking about that but he doesn't want to do anything else right now.

I told him about the hornet last night, and that I think Pip ate one a week or two ago, and he said that could have triggered this. He said stress also could have caused it. My daughter had brought over her dog a week ago and he kept taking Pippin's toys away from him, and Pippin is such a sissy he wouldn't go over and try and get it back. He just would go to my daughter and cry for her to go get it. The trowing up started that night.

I just don't want to see him go through this again. Every time it has been more intense and lasted longer.
why don't u take him this week to a specialist and for the test; what if this doesn't get better but worst; i am sorry i don't mean to scare you but if this is ibd then it will just only get worst; as you said every time is more intense and last longer; because the inflammation is more severe now and the GI is not healing. not sure what your vet is waiting for. i will keep pippin in my prayers.

ally173 09-15-2010 05:31 PM
how's pippin doing today; hope he's better.

valerieam 09-16-2010 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ally173 (Post 3271807)
how's pippin doing today; hope he's better.
He is doing fantastic. He is so bright eyed, and acting like a puppy. I think the diet plus the meds is making him feel so much better. I've noticed he doesn't have much goop in his eyes in the morning now.

I know we still have to get to the bottom of what is wrong with him, but just to see him feeling good again is a relief. Thanks for everyone's advice and good wishes.

Micah my love 09-16-2010 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by valerieam (Post 3272168)
He is doing fantastic. He is so bright eyed, and acting like a puppy. I think the diet plus the meds is making him feel so much better. I've noticed he doesn't have much goop in his eyes in the morning now.

I know we still have to get to the bottom of what is wrong with him, but just to see him feeling good again is a relief. Thanks for everyone's advice and good wishes.
So glad to hear that he is feeling better :)

ally173 09-16-2010 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by valerieam (Post 3272168)
He is doing fantastic. He is so bright eyed, and acting like a puppy. I think the diet plus the meds is making him feel so much better. I've noticed he doesn't have much goop in his eyes in the morning now.

I know we still have to get to the bottom of what is wrong with him, but just to see him feeling good again is a relief. Thanks for everyone's advice and good wishes.
this is such great news; i am happy that he's doing better.


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