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Babz 09-10-2010 11:03 AM
Even if it's not bloat, what does white gums indicate?

chachi 09-10-2010 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Babz (Post 3266459)
Even if it's not bloat, what does white gums indicate?
It means shes in some kind of distress.

erinlee 09-10-2010 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Babz (Post 3266449)
I just heard lots of gurgling from her tummy. Can this be bloat if I hear activity in her tummy?

Mocha's 2.5 yo and weighs around 2.9 to 3.1 kg.
According to the link you are basing the thought of bloat off of, it says there wont be any gurgling. Gurgling is a sign of digestive upset. It's good, because that means that the body is working to get through whatever the upset it. I'd be scared if there wasn't any noise and she was very lethargic, like not moving.

Is it possible that she's just tired? You did say it was after 2 am there? Maybe she feels sick and is tired. If it's not the normal part of day when she'd be up then she could be tired.

If she isn't continually trying to vomit then I would say it's not bloat. The problem with trying to figure out what's wrong by yourself is that those symptoms can mean a number of different things.



http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu1.gifAttempts to vomit (usually unsuccessful); may occur every 5-30 minutes http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu2.gifThis seems to be one of the most common symptoms & has been referred to as the "hallmark symptom"http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu2.gif"Unsuccessful vomiting" means either nothing comes up or possibly just foam and/or mucous comes up http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu1.gifDoesn't act like usual self http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu2.gifPerhaps the earliest warning sign and may be the only sign that almost always occurshttp://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu2.gifWe've had several reports that dogs who bloated asked to go outside in the middle of the night. If this is combined with frequent attempts to vomit, and if your dog doesn't typically ask to go outside in the middle of the night, bloat is a very real possibility. http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu1.gifSignificant anxiety and restlessness
One of the earliest warning signs and seems fairly typicalhttp://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu1.gif"Hunched up" or "roached up" appearance
This seems to occur fairly frequentlyhttp://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu1.gifLack of normal gurgling and digestive sounds in the tummy http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu2.gifMany dog owners report this after putting their ear to their dog's tummy.http://www.globalspan.net/_themes/cypress/cyprbu2.gifIf your dog shows any bloat symptoms, you may want to try this immediately.

ally173 09-10-2010 11:07 AM
do you have some pepto on hand or pepcid; anything to settle her stomach. don't let her drink anymore; gurgling noises are signs of digestive upset.

erinlee 09-10-2010 11:10 AM
She needs to stay hydrated, if you don't let her drink anything and she is already dehydrated then she could die. I would NOT refrain from letting her drink water, if you want to hold off on food that's fine. What do the doctors tell us when we are sick? STAY HYDRATED. Flush whatever bad bacteria there is out. You must allow her access to water.

ally173 09-10-2010 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by erinlee (Post 3266472)
She needs to stay hydrated, if you don't let her drink anything and she is already dehydrated then she could die. I would NOT refrain from letting her drink water, if you want to hold off on food that's fine. What do the doctors tell us when we are sick? STAY HYDRATED. Flush whatever bad bacteria there is out. You must allow her access to water.
not if she's having digestive upset; dogs digestive system is different; she can get pancreatitis just from drinking water. i have been there and it's best not to give anything. she will keep vomiting the more she drinks; not to mention water can dilute the electrolyte making her more dehydrated.

erinlee 09-10-2010 11:13 AM
Maybe you should research pickles and dogs who get sick from them. How many did she eat? How much does she weigh? Was there anything else she could have possibly gotten into? Were her symptoms directly after eating the pickles? What else has she eaten today?

Babz 09-10-2010 11:13 AM
She seems ok lying down, or sitting. She doesn't seem to be reluctant to move, she followed me when I had to go to the bathroom just now. But she's whining. A lot. She's not a whiner. And no matter how late it is, she's always quite alert and bouncing with energy.

When I press her belly, she groans. I don't know. I'm about to go crazy.

erinlee 09-10-2010 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ally173 (Post 3266475)
not if she's having digestive upset; dogs digestive system is different; she can get pancreatitis just from drinking water. i have been there and it's best not to give anything. she will keep vomiting the more she drinks; not to mention water can dilute the electrolyte making her more dehydrated.
Not to be rude, but I really disagree with that. I've worked closely with a Holistic vet and have had a few instances of sick dogs of my own. Drinking water is a good thing. I've never been told to keep water from them.

That's my opinion, and I feel very strongly about it. I'm not trying to be rude...

ally173 09-10-2010 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Babz (Post 3266477)
She seems ok lying down, or sitting. She doesn't seem to be reluctant to move, she followed me when I had to go to the bathroom just now. But she's whining. A lot. She's not a whiner. And no matter how late it is, she's always quite alert and bouncing with energy.

When I press her belly, she groans. I don't know. I'm about to go crazy.
she seems in pain; she needs to see a vet; will keep u in my prayers.

Babz 09-10-2010 11:17 AM
I have no pepto or pepcid.

I have googled pickles up and down. I cannot find anything that says pickles are dangerous, or even vinegar. She ate 2 pieces as big as the tip of my forefinger. She vomited about 3 hours after eating the pickles.

Her heart rate is about 110-120 per minute.

ally173 09-10-2010 11:18 AM
ellie mae; u have experience with pancreatitis; when an attack is coming don't you have to withhold water too because it can make it worst?

chachi 09-10-2010 11:20 AM
The only thing about withholding water is she has vommited alot and could be dehydrating

erinlee 09-10-2010 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ally173 (Post 3266475)
not if she's having digestive upset; dogs digestive system is different; she can get pancreatitis just from drinking water. i have been there and it's best not to give anything. she will keep vomiting the more she drinks; not to mention water can dilute the electrolyte making her more dehydrated.
I didn't mean to say that pancreatitis would be entirely out of the question, and I just think that having no history of it it's not a good idea to scare her owner and keep water away from her. It could very well just be a digestive upset. The electrolyte thing is why I previously recommended pedialyte. All I'm saying is that when you have no choice but to sit home and monotor symptoms, you should'nt immediately keep the dog from water. There's no real reason to think it pancreatitis... so I think it's a little premature to base care off of that.

Babz 09-10-2010 11:28 AM
She's not trying to vomit. That's all I keep thinking about.

Friends, please say a prayer for Mo. I hope I can get a vet as early as 6 AM. It's 3 more hours.


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