Bortedella vaccine side effects?
 

Hello fellow yt friends. I had a question about the botedella vaccine and it's side effects. I just got my new baby Jameson a little over 2 weeks ago. Jameson had developed a sneeze since I've had him that the vet said was allergies and nothing to worry about, possibly the change in the air/enviornment (he moved from Dallas to Boston). The vet gave Jameson his bortedella vaccine on 6/2 and 5 days later 6/7 Jameson has developed a cough. I know that coughing can be a side effect of the vaccine, but is it normal for the side effect to start 5 days later rather than immediately? I'm in wicked mom mode and am worried it could be something more serious than a side effect since it started 5 days later. Other than the sneezing/coughing he's completely normal. He's energetic, playful, eats normal, poops normal, etc. I also want to mention that I'm also in the process of changing his food from Royal Canine to Blue Buffalo (not sure if that might be a factor in anything). Thanks in advance for all your comments/help.

Signed,
Worried new mom.

The vaccine could have given him bordatello it wouldnt be the 1st time Ive heard of that happening on here. Was it the nasal or injection? Bordatello has an incubation period so that could be why the delay.

Thanks for replying Chachi. It was the nasal version.

OMG, I'm so dumb I just realized I called Bordatello bortedella. Please excuse my duh moment. I guess I was in a rush to get the post out.

Thats what I thought. It more commonly happens with the nasal version. I dont even get the bordatello for My yorkies. If I ever board them I will. Its not a core vaccine so they really dont have to have it.

I've never had a problem with the Intra III nasal. I've known those that have received the vaccination, which my vet is highly against, have had reactions.

Granted it isn't a core vaccine, however, if you take your pup to be groomed and/or out in public, it's better to err on the side of caution. While kennel cough needs to run it's course, there is always a chance of the development of pnuemonia.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I dont believe in unnecessary vaccines

Since I show, and my dogs are taken out in public....I leave nothing to chance. Once their showing career is over I only vaccinate with those vaccinations that are required by law. I've seen too many dogs develop kennel cough only to be lost to pneumonia.

I can definitely see why show dogs would want to have the Bordetella shot, they are exposed to lots of other dogs. My vet told me that if Joey ever needed to be hospitalized, and didn't have the Bordetella, there might be a problem, so it should be taken on a case by case basic, depending on your lifestyle, and the health and age of your dogs.

Absolutely right Nancy. Even taking them to the groomer on a regular basis the shot is required. Exposing them to dogs on a regular basis is a risk.

And one must remember that if you have more than one dog, and a dog aquires kennel cough, it does spread through all your dogs like wildfire; vaccinated or not. The vaccination does keep symptoms down to a minimum.

Both of ours get the required shots and the Bordetella as both are out quite a bit. Carlo is boarded when we vacation at his trainers, and Max goes to our daughters house and she has 2 dogs. Never had a problem, but we make sure Maxine does not get all shots the same time....Carlo gets all at once.

Actually the correct spelling IS Bordatella. :)

I totally agree. If a pup is going to be left at a groomer or boarded anywhere, Bordatella is a necessary protection. I have never had issues with the intranasal one either. The only time I have used it though is when there was a chance of exposure.

Hey everyone, I just wanted to give a quick update on Jameson. I took him into the vet this morning since she said she didn't think the cough could be a reaction to the vaccine and wanted to listen to his lungs. Turns out he has a respitory infection and was a little dehydrated. He received fluids through an IV and has to be on antibiotics for the next 3 weeks. Other than his cough, he's his normal self. She thinks he may have developed the virus while he was traveling to me. Hopefully these antibiotics work and he's completely back to his healthy normal self.

Thanks for the update! Hope Jameson is feeling better soon! :)

I think it's an individual decision between client and vet.

Most groomers and vets require it. Some do not.
That's kinda like a hospital requiring the flu shots for patients...

There are certain situations where I would consider giving it, but I won't tell somebody else that they should. And for the most part, I'd decide against it. A dog with kennel ccough can also be put on antibiotics.

But this is coming from somebody with one dog. No grooming or boarding. Vets office has isolation and they are careful. I do take her to dog events, etc., but ususally carry her. Never had a problem in eight years.

ETA: Antibiotics not to stop the kennel cough but to try and prevent pneumonia.

If the dog had kennel cough when coming to you then by them vaccinating for it this could cause kennel cough to get worse. This is why vaccines should not be given to dogs if under stress or not completely healthy as you are inviting disease by adding into an unbalanced body. I think this is why your dog got this as respiratory infection is kennel cough and why dogs can get it when given the vaccine like in your dogs case.

Next time when vaccinating make sure to do it when your dog is 100% healthy. Also bordatella is one of those things that the vaccine does not cover all strains and easy to treat if they get it so if your dog is not going to dog parks, groomers, etc then I personally would not do it. I have not done this for 4 years but I have a groomer that comes to my home and I do not board my dogs nor go to dog parks.

Lifestyle and area has a lot to do with what vaccinations to use

Please read this vaccination thread to learn a lot about it in toy breeds and discuss with your vet as well. It is up to us to be on top of this as vets usually do not educate you about this stuff and it is up to pet owners to ask questions when it comes to vaccinating their dog.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...oing-them.html

I would never do the shot as my parents silky got the shot and he was 7 and never was sick and got a viral infection vomiting blood and bloody diarrhea and was on iv fluids for a week so my dad will no longer vaccinate him. He had always had intranasal prior and that was the first time he had the shot. Shots last a year and intranasal 6 mos so whenever something last longer it is much stronger just like antibiotic shots are much stronger than pills and they are much faster acting than pill form.

Nancy1999 just wanted to let you know this as dex was given intranasal when he was sick with pancreatitis before I took him to hospital and they said to me WHAT WAS THE VET THINKING GIVING THIS DOG A BORDATELLA VACCINE WHEN HE IS SICK. They were furious and said they should have never done that so I think they would have taken him even if he did not have that.

A vet tech on our malt group whose both parents are vets does not do bordatella and she is very sharp so when I read that as I highly respect her I felt comfortable with my decision. She said it is easily treated as it is obvious when it happens you give antibiotics and the dog does not end up getting pneumonia. I think when owners are not fast acting when dog starts to cough is when you run into problems with pneumonia. So I agree with Chachi. If a show dog then I probably would do it.

There is a risk to bordatella vaccine intranasal as lillymae on here will attest to as she had a dog with issues due to this intranasal as it affects the mucus membranes in the dogs nose so it can cause problems. No vaccine or medication is without risk.

It is whether that risk out weighs the gain when doing these things which depends on lifestyle and area.

Sneezing and coughing are a sign of kennel cough . There is an incubation period as chachi said and the dog might have had a little bit of it when you got him that he may have been able to fight off but by adding that vaccine it sent him over the edge. The body can fight off a lot of things naturally but if you over tax the body it can send it in a tail spin so I blame the vaccine on this one.

This is why I always say VACCINATE HEALTHY DOGS ONLY. It says right on these vaccine bottles FOR HEALTHY DOGS ONLY. If you vaccinate a dog that is not healthy you may be dealing with more health issues.

Another thing to keep in mind when considering the Bordetella vaccine is the fact that the vaccine only covers about 30% of the potential strains.

An analogy is the flu shot. Just because you get a flu shot, it does not mean you won't get the flu. It only means that you have been vaccinated against certain strains.

Here is a nice overview of Bordetella/Kennel Cough: Kennel Cough - VeterinaryPartner.com

yep 100% agree as they are finding that dogs in kennel situations are still getting kennel cough even once vaccinated as there are other strains not covered just like with lepto.

BTW everyone Jameson seems to be feeling sooo much better. Thank you all so much for your input. I love this site!

so happy that is great :) Just do your homework before the next round :)