Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3353712)

after reading that last post i will no longer be posting any up dates on here.

Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 3354423)

Wow -- maybe we are reading two different threads. I see people who have looked up information, addresses, referrals to neurologists that will do phone consult, specialists in her/his area, others that have given their own dog's experiences, prayers offered, some have tried to explain several potential problems that could be looked into in great detail with references given for more info. A lot of work and heart-felt compassion went out to the OP without so much as a how-do-you-do. Instead people are told not to bother with sad dog stories, not to offer prayers, not to suggest seeing any vets or specialists..... I don't get what the OP does want. Of course there is frustration in having a sick dog. But that is no reason to take it out on the people that are trying to help.

Originally Posted by 2Morkies (Post 3354788)

Sorry, It's just hard to read about somebody who is worried sick about their puppy and just asking for advice.
I agree, a lot of people tried to help, but when one is worried about their pup sometimes your thinking is a little off. I think she was just worried. She has doctors saying one thing and getting advice from others....all she needed was total support, compassion and understanding. Not mean or sarcastic remarks in any way at all. You wouldn't respond like that to a friend in person would you? If she doesn't reply or take the advice all we should do is support her, not slam her and say mean things. That's what was discouraging to me. :(

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3350018)

ok did anyone see where i said mri do u think it was done by someone other than a neuro vet? if u are on here to post about my grammer, dont post, if you want to post about ur sad yorkie that does not pertain to mine then , dont post. however if u have read my post and understand that we have been to numerous vets, and if u or someone u know has had a similiar dog with something like this then please post.

Originally Posted by 2Morkies (Post 3354788)

Sorry, It's just hard to read about somebody who is worried sick about their puppy and just asking for advice.
I agree, a lot of people tried to help, but when one is worried about their pup sometimes your thinking is a little off. I think she was just worried. She has doctors saying one thing and getting advice from others....all she needed was total support, compassion and understanding. Not mean or sarcastic remarks in any way at all. You wouldn't respond like that to a friend in person would you? If she doesn't reply or take the advice all we should do is support her, not slam her and say mean things. That's what was discouraging to me. :(

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3354817)

If you are referring to me, yes I actually would respond exactly as I have to anyone, including a friend. In my opinion, to do otherwise would be a lie. I do not feel that I was "mean" or "sarcastic". I was honest. She does not have to listen to anyone; but I fear that her pup will suffer and perhaps even die if she does not listen. At least if something awful does happen, no one can say that good veterinary care was not suggested. :(

Based upon what little I can derive from her writings, I believe the OP is trying to treat her pup by searching on the internet. For me to support that in any way would be criminal.

Perhaps you can offer her some sage advice? Might be a bit more helpful than complaining about what others have offered as advice for this pup. :)

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3356584)

wwent to a new neurologist and he says necrotizing enchepilitis look it up. waiting for preauthorization from insurance to do spinal tap. hopefully next week, the insurance takes 3 days to do a preauthorization.

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3356753)

three vets and one other neuro who all told me it was his liver and yes i'am glad we are finally seeing someone who knows what they are doing. this has been going on since october. it's a huge relief, i repeat a huge relief.

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3356753)

three vets and one other neuro who all told me it was his liver and yes i'am glad we are finally seeing someone who knows what they are doing. this has been going on since october. it's a huge relief, i repeat a huge relief.

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3349879)

ok so after my last post we went to 2 diffrent vets and were told he had an ear infection. after 1.25 mg of prednisone nd antibiotic he straightend out, then just recently he started walking sideways again the chiro came and put his knees back in and then he did fine for a day, then he got worse couldnt walk without falling over 3 vets later numerous test that were inconclusive they did a bile test, urine, ammonia levels, cbc about 800.00 3 diffrent treatments for liver and nothing. i got on here and remembered prednisone made it stop so i gave him 1.25 mg again and 4 days later he was fine again, then after a week suddenly he was doing head tilt back to the vet changed his liver treatment and more prednisone, walking fine and then still head tilt er vet told me to change his liver treatment which we did and gave him a lactulose enema. tapered off his steriod and bam spinning in circles to the right on the floor,and cant walk cause we tapered off steriod? so started it back and can walk but still head tilt doing liver treatment and steriod neuro after doing an mri dosent know 4 diffrent vets dont know always liver, liver, liver, so any one have an ideas, or maybe had a baby that did thes he is now 16 months old and no one can tell me what it is just the same thing liver,liver,liver. i need answers from someone,or suggestions, i love this dog he has insurance and at this point i work parttime to help pay his bills there are no lengths i wont go to for this baby. i know everyone on here wishes us well and will pray, i dont need to know that, and i dont want to hear about taking him to another vet or another specialists we've been to all of them, and no one knows what it is and if it is the liver at some point all this should have gone away, and we could take him off the steriod, just posts suggestions only, iam not some lame duck that thinks u guys on here are vets, i would just like to know what u think about his symptoms. thank you.:aimeeyork:)

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3349913)

we've been to several vets and several tests lots of diffrent medicine and after i started him back on prednisone ( i did it after reading here) he starightened up called the vet told him he sent me out some to the pharmacy and then several weeks later bam hes doing the head tilt, noone can tell me why ive spent lots of money 800.00 alone in medicine, and nothing check liver bile, check ammonia level, mri, x rays, u name it weve done it steriod worked for a few weeks, even had him sedated to look in his ears, and nothing. i saw a post on here where they did prilosec thinking of calling dr for it to be sent to compound pharmacy cant hurt right? after my last post he did well for a while, so maybe it masked the symptoms and corrected the problem for the neuro visit? this sucks i love this baby with all my heart and yet i cant find a vet that knows what they r doing! working part time job to pay for all this treatment and will cont to do so until i find out what the hell is wrong with him. every thing is either inconclusive or normal. and all i hear is liver,liver,liver. sick of it after all the treatments weve done for it lactolose,flagyl,neomycein,and three other antibiotics he dosent get better. one vet thought i should taper down the steriod and when i did he walked like he had been drinking beer all day. so against advice he went back on it, i couldnt stand watching him roll in a circle to his right any more and guess what he got better he can walk without falling down, but still head tilts to the right. please any suggestions and yes i will call vet and get the prilosec sent to pharmacy after all they owe me that one. but i digress any advice please post. thanks

Originally Posted by fus40 (Post 3356771)

is it soo surprising to u lady jane that vets can be quacks ? that they look at his size and decide from that that it must be a liver shunt? is it surprising to you tha t some doctors can't read an mri or an x-ray ? i see it all the time. did you know that little shakers syndrome mimicks liver shunt? and prilosec decreases csf in an dog, that's why i gave it. i bet it's surprising to you that the neurologist won't touch my dog until he has cash in hand. what a world you live in must be perfect. and yes u did accuse me of trying to get you to dx my dog.

Originally Posted by 2Morkies (Post 3363495)

Hi, I posted a thread on MT for you about this. Someone suggested White Shaker Syndrome. It's usually common in white dogs only, but Yorkies were included in the list. She had problems too. The vets couldn't figure it out. The Neuro saw it right away. It was White shaker syndrom

Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3363983)

As with so many conditions, white dog syndrome can be from very mild to very severe. My Sparky (Malti/Pom) has this and for the most part is mild but he does occasionally have a severe episode. White dog syndrome does not usually present with a head tilt and the dog does not walk in a C shape. Anything is possible and as bad as I wish for the OP & her pup that this was the problem, I don't believe it is. I truly hope that this new Neuro can figure out what is wrong with this pup.

Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3363983)

As with so many conditions, white dog syndrome can be from very mild to very severe. My Sparky (Malti/Pom) has this and for the most part is mild but he does occasionally have a severe episode. White dog syndrome does not usually present with a head tilt and the dog does not walk in a C shape. Anything is possible and as bad as I wish for the OP & her pup that this was the problem, I don't believe it is. I truly hope that this new Neuro can figure out what is wrong with this pup.

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3366381)

Can you explain what the severe episode is like? My Teddy has this condition and I've never seen it become more or less severe. He tremors when at concentration or play and at rest there is only a slight head bobble that he has had since he was a baby.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3368150)

Good to hear that the tests were finally done. Sorry that he is not doing well but not surprising given the length of time without treatment. HOpefully he will respond well to the chemo.
Will continue to pray for him.

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3368233)

Surely the neurologist has contacts. What vet hospital is this? I hardly think anyone on YT has cytosar in their home.

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3368239)

I was wondering the same thing. This OP has a history of self medicating and now people on this forum are trying to get chemotherapy drugs....I will still pray for this pup.

Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3368144)

I want to let everyone know that Mickey had his 2nd MRI & 1st spinal yesterday & he had a seizure coming out of anaesthesia. He has GME, he was given meds for the seizure & is now in a coma. They have started Dr. Sissons protocol and now it's a waiting game. They will give him 48 hrs to see if the meds will work. According to Dr. Sisson he can still pull through. I would like to ask for Prayers & good thoughts for little Mickey.