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all101 03-30-2010 08:03 PM

My baby has scabies. . . help!
 
I live in China and about 1 month ago I bought a yorkie. Ollie is now about 12 weeks old and he has developed a bad skin rash over the last week. Yesterday I took him to a Chinese vet who told me that he had scoptic scabies and a fungal infection. Ollie weighs 1.3 lbs and lately he has not wanted to eat much. For the last 2 days he has been shaking and crying a lot. The vet gave me two topical sprays, which I have never heard of before, and told me to spray him everyday. After I spray him he runs in cirlces and cries and shakes. I don't know what to do. The vet doesn't know much english and I don't know much Chinese and I am afraid that the medicine is going to hurt my baby boy. he already had a bad reation to the dewormer I gave him and had a hypoglycemic fit. He is losing hair now and is very tired and needs to be held, but now I have the itchies too! I don't know how good the Chinese food is so I feed him purina puppy chow (which he hates) fish, steak, carrots, and apple. I have washed everything, but I don't how he got it. He doesn't go outside at all because it is too cold. Please help me, I feel lost.

cj125 03-30-2010 08:38 PM

Oh gez... I really don't know anything about scabies and I'm not sure who's online right now. Try googling what your baby has and see what you can find out that way - at least until someone comes back online. I did find this place but I didn't have time to read anything on it so I can't vouch for anything it says - sorry. Normally I'd say talk to another vet but since there's a language problem...
Scabies In Dogs on RightHealth
Hang tight - we'll get someone on here who knows something about this.

Nancy1999 03-30-2010 08:55 PM

Oh that sounds horrible, I'm like Connie, I don't know much about it, but hopefully by tomorrow, you will get some better answers, here's another link that's helpful. Sarcoptic Mange in Dogs. Do you know what the sprays are?

HollyandMommy 03-30-2010 08:58 PM

Wow good luck. I'll try to find somthing in my books. I'll let you know tomorrow.

capt_noonie 03-30-2010 09:13 PM

I copied and pasted a few things I googled. Since China cannot use google anymore, I don't think the OP will find anything there....

From Itching dog scabiesDogs Scabies

Scabies is a skin disorder in dogs caused by infection with scabies mites (sarcoptes scabei). Those microscopic mites burrow in the dogs skin surface, storing their eggs in a trail behind them. The tunnels are visible as thin, scaly lines at the dogs skin. The itchy scalp and skin rashes of scabies occur because an allergy to the scabies mite. Scabies is one of the most itching skin disorders in dogs. Scabies mites prefer the dogs abdomen, chest, legs, and ears, but can affect any area of the dog skin.
Scabies mites usually spread by direct contact from host to host. However, scabies mites are only infective for 36 hours, which means that environmental decontamination is generally not necessary.

Scabies infections on humans go away on their own, as the scabies mite is not able to complete its life cycle on the wrong host.
Typical symptoms for the two kinds of dog mange:

Scabies Mange You see only few scabs at your dog's skin. It looks like a scab caused by a scratch. Some hairless patches may appear.
Your dog suffers from steadily itching skin.
Actually, scabies is very rare in cultivated countries. Scabies mites cannot survive in clean places. They live in garbage dumps or similar surroundings. Scabies mites are mainly present in poor countries of the third world.
Demodectic Mange
Caused by an immune system deficiency.
The entire skin looks pink, red, or even turns black. (There can be additional infections, rashes, pimples, or open sores)
Hairloss allover the body.
Demodectic mange is not very itching.


Treatment remedies from: Scabies in Dogs | Mange in Dogs | Dog Mange | Sarcoptes Scabiei

Scabies is known as ‘the itch’ and is a skin disorder characterized by superficial skin burrows and intense itching. Its causal agent is the mite called as Sarcoptes Scabei. The name Scabies is derived from the Latin word for Scratch. There are various methods for dogs scabies treatment.
Scabies in dogs is a condition that results in severe itching and hair loss. This condition results in reddening of the skin and forming of lesions. Mostly it affects belly, ears, legs and chest.
Scabies is easy to diagnose as it is marked by intense itching. But very often a detailed study is required. A scraping of the skin of the affected area should be put under microscope to identify mites and their eggs. This is followed by measures to treat the condition in your dog.
• Trimming of fur: Before you begin actually treating the animal it is vital to trim any long fur so that topical treatments impact the area affected by scabies. This is vital for effective dogs scabies treatment.
• Medicated shampoos: Counted among the most effective treatments to get rid of scabies mites that cause the disease in the dog. This treatment is often recommended by doctors and the dogs also respond properly to this treatment. The shampoos have insecticides intended to kill the mites. Now there are many shampoos available in the market and it is best to consult your vet which is the best one for your dog. It is very important to keep dogs clean by giving frequent baths with these shampoos.
• Injections: One other scabies treatment is administering drugs through injections. The drugs given intravenously include Frontline Plus, Revolution and Selemectin that work well against scabies. The drug Selemectin is either injected or fed orally and has proved to be very effective. It is considered a convenient treatment as dosage is only once every month and it has no side effects.
Other drugs given intravenously include Ivermectin and Moxidectin . For Ivermectin, two dosages are injected once in two weeks. But Ivermectin is generally not recommended because of its side effects.
• Lime Sulfur Dip: It is a solution containing lime sulfur(97.5%), most effective for dogs scabies treatment. The solution is created by mixing 4 oz of lime sulfur to one gallon of water. On being diluted the solution is poured all over the dog’s body allowing to soak up in the affected areas. Allow the solution to last on the animal without washing or drying the dog. A pair of gloves is handy while you give your dog a sulfur bath. Also make sure the dog does not drink any drops of the solution. It is a very effective and long lasting treatment for scabies.
There are also many over the counter treatments for dogs scabies treatment:
- Natural Oils: Tea tree oil and Neem Oil are supposed to fight scabies effectively. Tea tree oil is famous for its anti fungal and anti bacterial qualities. Apply tea tree oil morning and night on the affected area. Neem Oil is to be applied twice a day.
- Sulfur creams and Permethrin can be used as topical creams.
The basic precaution to fight this disease is to keep your pet clean and well groomed. Also, maintain cleanliness of your neighborhood so it does not foster the growth of scabies mites. There will be no need for dogs scabies treatment in a clean and hygienic environment.

Ladymom 03-30-2010 09:17 PM

Oh, dear. That poor, poor puppy. The itching is terrible.

My Petie (Golden Retriever) got mange/scabies. I have never heard of using a spray. He was treated with Ivermectin given by injection. It took three injections to clear it up.

This is an excellent article from Marvistavet:

Sarcoptic Mange

I got the itchies, too. While humans aren't hosts, the mites will bite people and the itching is terrible, isn't it? I washed all my bedding everyday until we got rid of it.

Can you find a vet that you can communicate with better? This poor little guy has to be just miserable and since he is so tiny, you have to be very careful how you treat it.

cj125 03-30-2010 09:20 PM

I don't want to scare you and I'm not promoting the products used in this article but I think you should read it. It explains about the scabies.
DERMISIL.COM :: How Fast does Dermisil Work? ::

Your little one is so small that you really need to help him keep his weight on and immunity up.

Do you have any NutriCal?
Nutri-Cal

If he won't eat his normal food - try boiled chicken.
Feed him frequently - every 2-3 hrs.
Keep his bedding clean.
Give him lots of love!

I hope this helps for right now - check back often because I'm sure more people will be coming on to help you out.

kjc 03-30-2010 09:28 PM

Can you get Revolution Heartworm product? Maybe order online? Best treatment for Sarcoptic Mange Mites. Apply once, then repeat in 4 weeks, then once every month as heartworm/mite preventative. You will need a pymethrin(sp) creme from the doctor for you... one time application.

https://www.revolution4dogs.com/default.aspx

He will need to be tested for Heartworm first.

cj125 03-30-2010 09:29 PM

Thank You Ladies! I didn't know they couldn't get google in China anymore. :confused:

I'm worried about this little one, not only about the scabies but because he's so little and loosing weight. I think Marj is right - she's going to have to be very careful on his treatment because he is so small. I can't believe we don't have a YT member that's a vet! Oh, I'm thinking.... I think I know a couple that are vet techs. I'll be back!

cj125 03-30-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3062942)
Can you get Revolution Heartworm product? Maybe order online? Best treatment for Sarcoptic Mange Mites. Apply once, then repeat in 4 weeks, then once every month as heartworm/mite preventative. You will need a pymethrin(sp) creme from the doctor for you... one time application.

https://www.revolution4dogs.com/default.aspx

Can you use this on a 12 wk old puppy? We don't have to use heartworm meds out here so I don't know what the age is on this stuff.

kjc 03-30-2010 10:12 PM

Revolution is a once a month topical application. Works within 24 hours on scabies. My dog slept alot the day of the initial treatment from exhaustion from scratching so much. Check with the vet, you may be able to use a smaller dose due to his weight.

Any shampoo that contains coconut oil extracts is really good for skin and hair. It's a natural antibiotic/antifungal among other things too numerous to list here. I've used it on my skin kid and her skin issues cleared up better than with the prescription ointments from her doctor. (She has had some kind of fungal/ecxema problem on one arm for the last 3 years. I can barely find it on her now, after using Suave coconut body wash for 1 month!) Sometimes fungal products feel like they burn when applied to the skin. Maybe the spray does this to your pup? Also it might feel cold, too.

kjc 03-30-2010 10:17 PM

Revolution is a once a month topical application. Works within 24 hours on scabies. My dog slept alot the day of the initial treatment from exhaustion from scratching so much. Check with the vet, you may be able to use a smaller dose due to his weight.

Any shampoo that contains coconut oil extracts is really good for skin and hair. It's a natural antibiotic/antifungal among other things too numerous to list here. I've used it on my skin kid and her skin issues cleared up better than with the prescription ointments from her doctor. (She has had some kind of fungal/ecxema problem on one arm for the last 3 years. I can barely find it on her now, after using Suave coconut body wash for 1 month!) Sometimes fungal products feel like they burn when applied to the skin. Maybe the spray does this to your pup? Also it might feel cold, too.

kjc 03-30-2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3062944)
Can you use this on a 12 wk old puppy? We don't have to use heartworm meds out here so I don't know what the age is on this stuff.

Sorry computer died.... yes for 6 weeks and up, (I checked before I posted)

kjc 03-30-2010 11:28 PM

Revolution
®
(sselamectin)
Topical arasiticide For Dogs nd ats
CAUTION:
US ederal aw restricts his drug o use by or n the order of icensed veterinarian.
DESCRIPTION:
REVOLUTION (selamectin)Topical Parasiticide is available as a colorless to yellow,ready to use
solution in single dose tubes for topical (dermal)treatment of dogs 6 weeks of age and older and cats
8 weeks of age and older.The content of each tube is formulated to provide a minimum of 2.7 mg/lb
(66 mg/kkg) of body weight of selamectin.The chemical composition of selamectin is (55Z,225S)-225-
cyclohexyl- -44’-
O -dde (22,6-dideoxy-33- O -mmethyl-á -LL- arabino -hhexopyranosyl)--55-demethoxy-225-dde(11-
methylpropyl)--222,23-dihydro-55-hydroxyiminoavermectin 1a .
INDICATIONS:
REVOLUTION is recommended for use in dogs 6 weeks of age or older and cats 8 weeks of age and
older for he ollowing arasites nd ndications:
Dogs:REVOLUTION kills adult fleas and prevents flea eggs from hatching for one month and is indi-
cated for the prevention and control of flea infestations
(CCtenocephalides felis),prevention of heartworm
disease caused by
Dirofilaria immitis,and the treatment and control of ear mite (OOtodectes cynotis)
infestations.REVOLUTION also is indicated for the treatment and control of sarcoptic mange (SSarcoptes
scabiei) nd or he ontrol f tick infestations due to Dermacentor ariabilis.
Cats:REVOLUTION kills adult fleas and prevents flea eggs from hatching for one month and is indi-
cated for the prevention and control of flea infestations
(CCtenocephalides felis),,prevention of heartworm
disease caused by
Dirofilaria immitis,and the treatment and control of ear mite (OOtodectes cynotis)
infestations.REVOLUTION is also indicated for the treatment and control of roundworm (Toxocara
cati) and intestinal ookworm (AAncylostoma tubaeforme) infections in ats.
WARNINGS:
Not for uman se.eep out of he each of hildren.
In humans,REVOLUTION may be irritating to skin and eyes.
Reactions such as hives,itching
and skin redness have been reported in humans in rare instances.Individuals with known hypersensi-
tivity to REVOLUTION should use the product with caution or consult a health care professional.
REVOLUTION contains isopropyl alcohol and the preservative butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT).Wash
hands after use and wash off any product in contact with the skin immediately with soap and water.
If contact with eyes occurs,then flush eyes copiously with water.In case of ingestion by a human,
contact a physician immediately.The material safety data sheet (MSDS)provides more detailed
occupational safety information.For a copy of the MSDS or to report adverse reactions attributable to
exposure to his product, all 1-800-366-5288.
Flammable eep away from eat, parks, pen flames or ther ources f ignition.
Do ot se n sick, ebilitated r underweight animals (ssee SAFETY)..
PRECAUTIONS:
Prior to administration of REVOLUTION,dogs should be tested for existing heartworm infections.At
the discretion of the veterinarian, infected dogs should be treated to remove adult heartworms.
REVOLUTION is not effective against adult
D.immitis and,while the number of circulating microfilariae
may decrease ollowing reatment, EVOLUTION is ot ffective for icrofilariae clearance.
Hypersensitivity reactions have not been observed in dogs with patent heartworm infections
administered imes he ecommended ose of EVOLUTION. igher doses were not tested.

kjc 03-30-2010 11:31 PM

ADVERSE REACTIONS:
Pre-approval linical trials:
Following treatment with REVOLUTION, transient localized alopecia with or without inflammation at
or near the site of application was observed in approximately 1%of 691 treated cats.Other signs
observed rarely (
¡Ü0.5%of 1743 treated cats and dogs)included vomiting,loose stool or diarrhea with
or ithout lood, norexia, ethargy, alivation, achypnea, nd uscle tremors.
Post-approval xperience:
In addition to the aforementioned clinical signs that were reported in pre-approval clinical trials,there
have been reports of pruritus,urticaria,erythema,ataxia,fever,and rare reports of death.There have
also een rare reports f seizures n dogs
see WARNINGS).
DOSAGE:
The recommended minimum ose is .77 mg elamectin per pound (66 mg/kkg) f body eight.
Administer the entire contents of a single dose tube (oor two tubes used in combination for dogs
weighing over 130 pounds) of REVOLUTION topically in accordance with the following tables.(ssee
ADMINISTRATION for he ecommended reatment ntervals).
Cats lb)Package color mg er ube
Potency
(mmg/mmL)
Administered
volume (mmL)
Up o 5 Mauve 15 g 60 0.25
5.1–15 Blue 45 g 60 0.75
For ats over 5 lbs use the appropriate ombination f tubes.
Dogs lb)Package color mg er ube
Potency
(mmg/mmL)
Administered
volume (mmL)
Up o 5 Mauve 15 g 60 0.25
5.1–10 Purple 30 g 120 0.25
10.11–20 Brown 60 g 120 0.5
20.11–40 Red 120 mg 120 1.0
40.11–85 Teal 240 mg 120 2.0
85.11–130 Plum 360 mg 120 3.0
For ogs over 30 bs se he ppropriate ombination f tubes.
Recommended for se n dogs eeks f age and older and in ats 8 weeks f age and older.
ADMINISTRATION:
A veterinarian or veterinary technician should demonstrate or instruct the pet owner regarding the
appropriate echnique or pplying REVOLUTION topically to ogs and cats rior to rst use.
Firmly press the cap down to puncture the seal on the REVOLUTION tube;a clicking sound will con-
firm that the cap has successfully punctured the seal.Remove the cap and check to ensure that the
tip of the tube is open.To administer the product,part the hair on the back of the animal at the base of
the neck in front of the shoulder blades until the skin is visible.Place the tip of the tube on the skin and
squeeze the tube 3 or 4 times to empty its entire contents directly onto the skin in one spot.Keeping
the tube squeezed,drag it away from the liquid and lift to remove.Check the tube to ensure that it is
empty.o not massage the product into he kin. ue o alcohol content, o not apply to roken kin.
Avoid contact between the product and fingers.Do not apply when the haircoat is wet.Bathing
or shampooing the animal 2 or more hours after treatment will not reduce the effectiveness of

kjc 03-30-2010 11:38 PM

REVOLUTION.Stiff hair,clumping of hair,hair discoloration,or a slight powdery residue may be
observed at the treatment site in some animals.These effects are temporary and do not affect the
safety or ffectiveness of he roduct.iscard mpty ubes n your ordinary household refuse.
Flea ontrol n Dogs nd ats
For the prevention and control of flea infestations,REVOLUTION should be administered at monthly
intervals throughout the flea season,starting one month before fleas become active.In controlled
laboratory studies >98%of fleas were killed within 36 hours.Results of clinical field studies using
REVOLUTION monthly demonstrated >990% control of flea infestations within 30 days of the first dose.
Dogs and cats treated with REVOLUTION,including those with pre-existing flea allergy dermatitis,
showed improvement in clinical signs associated with fleas as a direct result of eliminating the fleas
from he nimals nd heir nvironment.
If the dog or cat is already infested with fleas when the first dose of REVOLUTION is administered,
adult fleas on the animal are killed and no viable fleas hatch from eggs after the first administration.
However,an environmental infestation of fleas may persist for a short time after beginning treatment
with EVOLUTION because of he mergence f adult fleas rom pupae.
Heartworm Prevention in ogs and Cats
For the prevention of heartworm disease, REVOLUTION must be administered on a monthly basis.
REVOLUTION may be administered year-round or at least within one month after the animal ’s first
exposure to mosquitoes and monthly thereafter until the end of the mosquito season.The final dose
must be given within one month after the last exposure to mosquitoes.If a dose is missed and a
monthly interval between dosing is exceeded then immediate administration of REVOLUTION and
resumption of monthly dosing will minimize the opportunity for the development of adult heartworms.
When replacing another heartworm preventive product in a heartworm disease prevention program,the
first ose of EVOLUTION must be iven ithin a month of he ast dose f the former medication.
Selamectin, the active ingredient in REVOLUTION, is a macrocyclic lactone compound.These com-
pounds effectively prevent the development of adult heartworms when administered to dogs and cats
within one month of exposure to infective (LL
Dirofilaria immitis larvae.Efficacy of macrocyclic lactones
decreases below 100% in dogs, however, if first administered >22 months after exposure to infective larvae.
Thus,in heartworm endemic regions,delaying initiation of heartworm prevention using REVOLUTION
beyond 2 months of first exposure to infective larvae (e.g.,starting puppies and kittens at >8 weeks
of age),or gaps of >2 months in the administration of REVOLUTION during periods of heartworm
transmission,increases the risk of the animal acquiring heartworms.Animals with unknown heartworm
history that test negative for heartworms prior to the initiation of REVOLUTION may be harboring
pre-patent infections at the time REVOLUTION was started.Testing such animals 3-4 months after
initiation f REVOLUTION would e necessary to onfirm their negative heartworm status.
At the discretion of the veterinarian, cats
¡Ý6 months of age may be tested to determine the presence
of existing heartworm infections before beginning treatment with REVOLUTION.Cats already infected
with dult eartworms an e given EVOLUTION monthly to revent further nfections.
Ear Mite Treatment n Dogs nd ats
For the treatment of ear mite (OO cynotis) infestations in dogs and cats, REVOLUTION should be adminis-
tered once as a single topical dose.A second monthly dose may be required in some dogs.Monthly
use of REVOLUTION will control any subsequent ear mite infestations.In the clinical field trials ears
were not cleaned,and many animals still had debris in their ears after the second dose.Cleansing of
the infested ears s recommended to emove the debris.
Sarcoptic ange Treatment n Dogs
For the treatment of sarcoptic mange (SS scabiei) in dogs,REVOLUTION should be administered once
as a single topical dose.A second monthly dose may be required in some dogs.Monthly use of
REVOLUTION will control any subsequent sarcoptic mange mite infestations.Because of the difficulty in
finding sarcoptic mange mites on skin scrapings, effectiveness assessments also were based on reso-
lution of clinical signs.Resolution of the pruritus associated with the mite infestations was observed in
approximately 50%of the dogs 30 days after the first treatment and in approximately 90%of the dogs
30 ays fter he econd monthly treatment.


kjc 03-30-2010 11:41 PM

Tick Control n Dogs
For the control of tick (DDermacentor variabilis) infestations in dogs, REVOLUTION should be admin-
istered on a monthly basis.In heavy tick infestations,complete efficacy may not be achieved after the
first dose.In these cases,one additional dose may be administered 2 weeks after the previous dose,
with onthly osing continued thereafter.
Nematode Treatment n Cats
For the treatment and control of intestinal hookworm (AA. tubaeforme) and roundworm (TT cati)infections,
REVOLUTION should e applied once s a single opical ose.
SAFETY:
REVOLUTION has been tested safe in over 100 different pure and mixed breeds of healthy dogs and
over 15 different pure and mixed breeds of healthy cats,including pregnant and lactating females,
breeding males and females,puppies 6 weeks of age and older,kittens 8 weeks of age and older,
and avermectin-ssensitive collies.A kitten, estimated to be 5-6 weeks old (00.3 kg),, died 8
1 .2 hours
after receiving a single treatment of REVOLUTION at the recommended dosage.The kitten displayed
clinical signs which included muscle spasms,salivation and neurological signs.The kitten was a stray
with n unknown istory and was alnourished and underweight (ssee WARNINGS).
Dogs:In safety studies,REVOLUTION was administered at 1,3,5,and 10 times the recommended
dose to 6-week old puppies,and no adverse reactions were observed.The safety of REVOLUTION
administered orally also was tested in case of accidental oral ingestion.Oral administration of
REVOLUTION at the recommended topical dose in 5-to 8-month-old beagles did not cause any
adverse reactions.In a pre-clinical study selamectin was dosed orally to ivermectin-ssensitive collies.
Oral administration of 2.5,10,and 15 mg/kg in this dose-escalating study did not cause any adverse
reactions;however,8 hours after receiving 5 mg/kg orally,one avermectin-sensitive collie became
ataxic for several hours,but did not show any other adverse reactions after receiving subsequent
doses of 10 and 15 mg/kg orally.In a topical safety study conducted with avermectin-sensitive collies
at 1,3 and 5 times the recommended dose of REVOLUTION,salivation was observed in all treatment
groups, including the vehicle control. REVOLUTION also was administered at 3 times the recom-
mended ose to eartworm infected dogs, nd o adverse ffects ere observed.
Cats:In safety studies, REVOLUTION was applied at 1, 3, 5, and 10 times the recommended dose
to 6-week-old kittens.No adverse reactions were observed.The safety of REVOLUTION administered
orally also was tested in case of accidental oral ingestion.Oral administration of the recommended
topical dose of REVOLUTION to cats caused salivation and intermittent vomiting.REVOLUTION also
was applied at 4 times the recommended dose to patent heartworm infected cats,and no adverse
reactions were observed.
In well-controlled clinical studies,REVOLUTION was used safely in animals receiving other frequently
used veterinary products such as vaccines,anthelmintics,antiparasitics,antibiotics, steroids,collars,
shampoos nd ips.
STORAGE ONDITIONS: Store below 30 °C 86 °F)..
HOW SUPPLIED:Available in 7 separate dose strengths for dogs and cats of different weights (see
DOSAGE).REVOLUTION for puppies and kittens is available in cartons containing 3 single dose
tubes.EVOLUTION for ats and dogs s available n cartons ontaining 3 or ingle dose ubes.
For a copy of the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS)or to report adverse reactions call Pfizer Animal
Health t 1-800-366-5288.
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kjc 03-31-2010 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3062929)
I copied and pasted a few things I googled. Since China cannot use google anymore, I don't think the OP will find anything there....

From Itching dog scabiesDogs Scabies

Scabies is a skin disorder in dogs caused by infection with scabies mites (sarcoptes scabei). Those microscopic mites burrow in the dogs skin surface, storing their eggs in a trail behind them. The tunnels are visible as thin, scaly lines at the dogs skin. The itchy scalp and skin rashes of scabies occur because an allergy to the scabies mite. Scabies is one of the most itching skin disorders in dogs. Scabies mites prefer the dogs abdomen, chest, legs, and ears, but can affect any area of the dog skin.
Scabies mites usually spread by direct contact from host to host. However, scabies mites are only infective for 36 hours, which means that environmental decontamination is generally not necessary.

Scabies infections on humans go away on their own, as the scabies mite is not able to complete its life cycle on the wrong host.
Typical symptoms for the two kinds of dog mange:

Scabies Mange You see only few scabs at your dog's skin. It looks like a scab caused by a scratch. Some hairless patches may appear.
Your dog suffers from steadily itching skin.
Actually, scabies is very rare in cultivated countries. Scabies mites cannot survive in clean places. They live in garbage dumps or similar surroundings. Scabies mites are mainly present in poor countries of the third world.
Demodectic Mange
Caused by an immune system deficiency.
The entire skin looks pink, red, or even turns black. (There can be additional infections, rashes, pimples, or open sores)
Hairloss allover the body.
Demodectic mange is not very itching.


Treatment remedies from: Scabies in Dogs | Mange in Dogs | Dog Mange | Sarcoptes Scabiei

Scabies is known as ‘the itch’ and is a skin disorder characterized by superficial skin burrows and intense itching. Its causal agent is the mite called as Sarcoptes Scabei. The name Scabies is derived from the Latin word for Scratch. There are various methods for dogs scabies treatment.
Scabies in dogs is a condition that results in severe itching and hair loss. This condition results in reddening of the skin and forming of lesions. Mostly it affects belly, ears, legs and chest.
Scabies is easy to diagnose as it is marked by intense itching. But very often a detailed study is required. A scraping of the skin of the affected area should be put under microscope to identify mites and their eggs. This is followed by measures to treat the condition in your dog.
• Trimming of fur: Before you begin actually treating the animal it is vital to trim any long fur so that topical treatments impact the area affected by scabies. This is vital for effective dogs scabies treatment.
• Medicated shampoos: Counted among the most effective treatments to get rid of scabies mites that cause the disease in the dog. This treatment is often recommended by doctors and the dogs also respond properly to this treatment. The shampoos have insecticides intended to kill the mites. Now there are many shampoos available in the market and it is best to consult your vet which is the best one for your dog. It is very important to keep dogs clean by giving frequent baths with these shampoos.
• Injections: One other scabies treatment is administering drugs through injections. The drugs given intravenously include Frontline Plus, Revolution and Selemectin that work well against scabies. The drug Selemectin is either injected or fed orally and has proved to be very effective. It is considered a convenient treatment as dosage is only once every month and it has no side effects.
Other drugs given intravenously include Ivermectin and Moxidectin . For Ivermectin, two dosages are injected once in two weeks. But Ivermectin is generally not recommended because of its side effects.
• Lime Sulfur Dip: It is a solution containing lime sulfur(97.5%), most effective for dogs scabies treatment. The solution is created by mixing 4 oz of lime sulfur to one gallon of water. On being diluted the solution is poured all over the dog’s body allowing to soak up in the affected areas. Allow the solution to last on the animal without washing or drying the dog. A pair of gloves is handy while you give your dog a sulfur bath. Also make sure the dog does not drink any drops of the solution. It is a very effective and long lasting treatment for scabies.
There are also many over the counter treatments for dogs scabies treatment:
- Natural Oils: Tea tree oil and Neem Oil are supposed to fight scabies effectively. Tea tree oil is famous for its anti fungal and anti bacterial qualities. Apply tea tree oil morning and night on the affected area. Neem Oil is to be applied twice a day.
- Sulfur creams and Permethrin can be used as topical creams.
The basic precaution to fight this disease is to keep your pet clean and well groomed. Also, maintain cleanliness of your neighborhood so it does not foster the growth of scabies mites. There will be no need for dogs scabies treatment in a clean and hygienic environment.


I disagree with most/all of this info... I am not unclean and I don't live in a garbage dump, I don't live in a third world country, I would never inject Revolution IV or feed it orally to my dog. Cutting the coat is totally unnecessary... etc. My pets are clean and well groomed and I live near a woods and do not intend on cleaning that acreage as it is a natural area for wildlife. Who wrote this crap? :D

kjc 03-31-2010 12:24 AM

Coconut products are also antiparasitic, and keep bugs away. Revolution is applied to the skin between the shoulder blades, where it travels through the skin to work systemically on the pet to kill Heartworm and mites, and other stuff...see copy of product lit in previous posts. As for scabies clearing in humans on it's own... I itched for two weeks before calling my doctor. It was not going away without help.

all101 03-31-2010 04:27 AM

Thank you all so much for your help and quick reply! I will try to show my Chinese friend and see if she knows what I mean when I say tea tree oil and coconut oil. Medicines have obscure names that don't translate easily, so I really appreciate the thorough postings! I am mostly concerned about his reactions to the medicines. . . the shaking and sneezing. The spray is a Chinese brand called Firio Advank Dog Kill(horrible translation) 50. It smells so strong that when I sprayed Ollie and his bed the gas detector in my home went off!!! I am happy to say that he gained 3 ounces. He doesn't seem to eat as much, but I think it must be being counteracted by my feeding him tuna, steak, halibut and veggies rather than the crappy dog food they have here. I did buzz his beautiful hair off today because it is falling out in chunks and he rubs his little face in it, which I am afraid will work to lengthen the infection. If anybody has heard of his medicine please let me know. Also, do you all think I should use tea tree oil in conjunction with his medicine? Also, I have taken him twice to be immunized but I don't ever know what type of tests they are doing or what type of shots he is getting (a scary leap of faith). Yesterday the vet gave me two stickers, one says Nobivac puppy Dp and the other says VanGuard Plus 5. If anybody can give me more information on these shots or let me know if he should be having more shots I would appreciate it. The treatment regiment and testing in China is horrible. I have to demand everything and I don't know what (or how) I need to ask! Thank you all again. God bless.

Ellie May 03-31-2010 07:01 AM

Yes, Vanguard! At least we know about that here...
There is a vaccine overview on the YT Library.
The 5 in 1 should probably be used.


I would never used tea tree oil without washing it off and then still I don't use it.

Revolution would probably be the treatment of choice here, but it is two doses two weeks apart.

A lot of the sprays used for this are going to be highly toxic and could take your pup's life. I'd look for an Engligh speaking vet. :)

Where on your pup's body is the fungal issue?

cj125 03-31-2010 07:21 AM

Oh good - I was hoping you'd show up Crystal. :thumbup::thumbup:

What about this pup's size & age? Any suggestions on what to feed him?

Ellie May 03-31-2010 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3063250)
Oh good - I was hoping you'd show up Crystal. :thumbup::thumbup:

What about this pup's size & age? Any suggestions on what to feed him?

Anything that is recognizable to the English speaking population...
I didn't see the choices except for Purina?

dwerten 03-31-2010 07:28 AM

just want to state DO NOT MIX KETACONAZOLE AND IVERMECTIN it will cause ivermectin toxicity as you are dealing with a mite and a fungal infection so please make sure your vet does NOT do this as my friend's derm did this and gave her dog these two drugs and the dog went into a coma and almost died

I would use revolution as my first choice before using ivermectin just in case your vet is mentioning this

scabies (sarcoptic mange) is contagious and it can pass to humans so your dog could have got this from another dog.

this company makes a good shampoo as well and more info for you

Pets'BestRx™ Mange Breakthrough Solution :: New Developments on Mange Treatments from Pets'BestRx™

more info

http://www.petplace.com/dogs/sarcopt...ogs/page1.aspx

diet will not help with this - diet only helps with demodex mites as it is immune related and some feel raw feeding or home cooked are better for demodex mites as well as for allergy dogs as they are tied so immune system to immune boosting helps. Scabies is a mite that is not tied to immune system just passed on from other dogs as highly contagious

if fungal infection raw coconut oil helps

dwerten 03-31-2010 07:36 AM

what are the sprays you are using as have never heard of a spray for fungal nor scabies :(

ARCHIE 03-31-2010 07:48 AM

Just wanted to send good thoughts and prayer's for you and your baby.
Poor little one must be going crazy. I can't image how he feels.
Hope this remedy works for him and gives him the much needed relief
he needs. Thank heavens for YT at times like this.:thumbup: Your girls are
the best when someone is in desperate need.

TLC 03-31-2010 08:00 AM

Ahhh...this sucks!

Is there any English Vets or Specialists there :confused:

I feel soooooooooooo bad...

...I would be so scared to use that spray stuff :(

Yorkiedaze 03-31-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3062989)
I disagree with most/all of this info... I am not unclean and I don't live in a garbage dump, I don't live in a third world country, I would never inject Revolution IV or feed it orally to my dog. Cutting the coat is totally unnecessary... etc. My pets are clean and well groomed and I live near a woods and do not intend on cleaning that acreage as it is a natural area for wildlife. Who wrote this crap? :D

I'm in complete and total agreement with you. All this baby needs now is more chemicals that I'm sure would kill him.

Take him off of pet food and start feeding him real food, even baby meats and cereals. No commercial treats either. Too many chemical's in pet foods and treats!!!

Though the animal mange mite can live in human skin, it cannot reproduce there, so eventually the problem ends on it's own lasting just a few weeks at most.
A healthy animal is less likely to harbor parasites like fleas, ringworm, and mange mites, therefor proper nutrition and overall care are important preventive measures for both of you.
In addition, frequent grooming and inspection, along with herbal repellents, will catch most of these problems early. Be especially attentive when your animal has been in contact with other pets or is under stress from disease, emotional upset, or a stay in a kennel.
Give a little Vitamin C ascorbate twice a day, E for restoring immune capacity, and lecithin, depending on size.
Thinly slice a whole lemon, including the peel. Add it to 1 pint of near-boiling water and let it steep overnight. The next day, sponge the solution onto the animal's skin and let it dry. You can use this daily for skin problems including involving fleas. It is a source of natural flea-killing substances such as d-limonene and other healing ingredients found in whole lemon.

I hope this helps. Just stay away from all those chemicals that will kill your baby.

capt_noonie 03-31-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3062989)
I disagree with most/all of this info... I am not unclean and I don't live in a garbage dump, I don't live in a third world country, I would never inject Revolution IV or feed it orally to my dog. Cutting the coat is totally unnecessary... etc. My pets are clean and well groomed and I live near a woods and do not intend on cleaning that acreage as it is a natural area for wildlife. Who wrote this crap? :D

Sorry for posting incorrect info, but someone suggested she google to find out info. She can't google in China, so i thought I was helping by posting that info. It was from two different sites, and I thought I read it thoroughly and it made sense to me. I've never had to deal with anything like that before. I saw "thrid world country" and that's where she is.

But I do agree, if the hair is already falling out so much, as the OP said, it should be cut short. I don't think clumps of missing hair is necessarily a good look. Again, sorry for the wrong info.

Nancy1999 03-31-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3063633)
Sorry for posting incorrect info, but someone suggested she google to find out info. She can't google in China, so i thought I was helping by posting that info. It was from two different sites, and I thought I read it thoroughly and it made sense to me. I've never had to deal with anything like that before. I saw "thrid world country" and that's where she is.

But I do agree, if the hair is already falling out so much, as the OP said, it should be cut short. I don't think clumps of missing hair is necessarily a good look. Again, sorry for the wrong info.

I actually think it was a very good link, I think some objected to the last line. "The basic precaution to fight this disease is to keep your pet clean and well groomed. Also, maintain cleanliness of your neighborhood so it does not foster the growth of scabies mites. There will be no need for dogs scabies treatment in a clean and hygienic environment."


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