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JPop & Taz 2 03-23-2010 11:01 AM
Can the vet determine blockage with x-ray?
 
My poor sweet Halo has been sick for about a week now. She's throwing up and will not eat. She was at the vet Friday and he gave her a shot for upset tummy and 2 different meds (one for vomitting/diarreah, one anti-biotic). Had her back there yesterday....she won't eat anything. He gave her fluids and found her Bun a little elevated. Changed her anti-biotic and sent us home. She's peeing very little, still won't eat and threw up again last night. I've been giving her sugar water with a syringe. Brought her back today, he kept her and is flushing her again and wants to keep an eye on her the rest of the day. I asked about the possiblity of a blockage, but he says she doesn't have one, even though he didn't x-ray. Do you all think a vet can tell by feel? :confused: Even though my Halo is a teapot, she's already lost 3 lbs. Any advise/comments anyone has would be appreciated.

ARCHIE 03-23-2010 11:08 AM
Just wanted to send good wishes and prayer's for your baby to be well again.
It could be several things with those sympthoms. Did she get into any kind
of toxic product in the house or some plant in the yard? Poor baby and poor you. Hope you get answers soon.

JPop & Taz 2 03-23-2010 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARCHIE (Post 3051797)
Just wanted to send good wishes and prayer's for your baby to be well again.
It could be several things with those sympthoms. Did she get into any kind
of toxic product in the house or some plant in the yard? Poor baby and poor you. Hope you get answers soon.
DH & I have driven ourselves crazy trying to think of something she could have gotten into. They have a small fenced yard to play in. I can't imagine what she could have gotten and not the other 5. And toxic products are not kept so they could get into them. I even mop with a shark steamer so I don't have to use chemicals. When I do.....I use vinegar. Please keep her in your prayers. :(

brendah 03-23-2010 11:25 AM
I hope that Halo is doing better soon, I am sorry I don't have any advice.

yorkieusa 03-23-2010 11:46 AM
Gosh! I hope she'll be ok. It's so hard when you don't know what's wrong. An ultrasound should show if there's a blockage, I would think. He says there isn't a blockage and I would think he would know. What about pancreatitis? I'm just guessing here.:confused:

diane boden 03-23-2010 11:50 AM
It could depend on what is causing the blockage. I had a similar thing happen with my girl Chloe[rip] she stoped eating, kept being sick, it went on for weeks. The vets finally diagnosed a blocage and opened her up but found nothing, just that she was a little constpated. They finally put it down to a hormone imbalance as she'd recently been in season, and she'd always seamed to have trouble after her seasons.

2girls 03-23-2010 11:55 AM
Has Halo pooped at all or does she eat then vomit?

ladyjane 03-23-2010 12:19 PM
Does he think this is GI related...or renal? Sounds like it could be either one.

JPop & Taz 2 03-23-2010 01:44 PM
He's thinking GI related.....and as far as pooping..no she hasn't (I don't think) With 6, its hard to know sometimes. But she hasn't eaten anything, just what I've forced down her with a syringe. Vet gave her more fluids today and a vit b-12 shot. She does seem a little perker, but still refuses food. I've tried everything.....boiled chicken, egg, noodles, ceasars...I finally diluted some chicken broth and made a sort of soup with baby food chicken. At least I'm getting some nourishment into her even if its forced. She licks her lips like she wants to eat, but then turns away. I'm so worried about her. :(

Reese1 03-23-2010 02:25 PM
Linda,
I'm actually posting an old post of mine from a few years ago when Wrigley was a puppy. I remember how worried we were and I had never thought of all the stuff from her toys causing her problems:

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Originally Posted by Reese1 (Post 985322)
Well yesterday we thought she just had a stomach bug, but she continued to vomit starting early in the morning and we had to return to the vet. They did x-rays, blood work, etc.. and she had a blockage. They were worried at first that it was pancreatitis because she had blood in her stools, but that all came back negative. They gave her an enema and barium and fortunately she was able to pass everything.
The vet said her stool had all kinds of bits of different things, most likely from her different toys, small strings, fleece bits, hair, etc.. I just posted yesterday that we had learned about the danger of toys with strings and sure enough that came true today. She just couldn't pass anything because all of this had built up and there was a possibility of surgery if the treatments didn't work since this would become life threatening.
She's home, but she's had a really trying day and she's very sore, tired and just not feeling too well! It's so sad when they are so sick, you feel so helpless!
I hope everyone realizes the danger with all these toys, it sure has opened our eyes!
Please keep Wrigley in your thoughts and prayers!
I hope your little Halo gets well soon!!

BonBon 03-23-2010 02:39 PM
I just wanted to offer my prayers that she's feeling better soon. I hate it when they're sick and can't tell us what's wrong.

ladyjane 03-23-2010 02:46 PM
There is a medication (mirtazapine) that can be given that will stimulate her appetite and also will help with nausea and vomiting. BUT....the problem will still be that you don't know what it is, so I suppose it would not be appropriate.

I hope they figure out soon what is wrong with her.

HShanks 03-23-2010 02:48 PM
Poor thing. Hope Halo is feeling better soon. My first thought was pancreatitis. Has the vet ruled this out?

JPop & Taz 2 03-23-2010 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HShanks (Post 3052034)
Poor thing. Hope Halo is feeling better soon. My first thought was pancreatitis. Has the vet ruled this out?
Actually, pancreatitis has not been mentioned. All of the blood chems are coming out good. I just don't know. :( She really doesn't seem to feel really bad; she goes outside with the other babies, but, she is very weak. Hope all goes well tonight. I'm going to attempt to get her to eat again in a little while; wish me (and her) luck.

Nancy1999 03-23-2010 03:13 PM
I can't answer your question, but this is something you could ask you vet. As in, how do you know that there is no blockage? Maybe it has something to do with all that flushing, and most vets are more than happy to explain things to you. If you find out let us know! Anyway, I'm just want to tell you I'm sending prayers your way, and hope that they find out what's causing Halo to be sick, hope she makes a speedy recovery!

hugz4all4 03-23-2010 03:14 PM
I will keep her in my thoughts and prayers...

Mysweetbabies 03-23-2010 04:24 PM
Poor baby:( I hope the vet figures out what is wrong.

lillymae 03-23-2010 06:05 PM
I would ask for a barium swallow X-ray as a regular X-ray doesn't always show the object if there is one. Here is an example, my cat chewed the top half off of a baby bottle nipple. It did not show on an X-ray but with the barium swallow there it was plain as day.

mimimomo 03-23-2010 08:08 PM
If it is blockage, she would be throwing up non stop, won't even be able to keep water down. It will show in an x-ray if it's still in the stomach, but if it has passed down to the intestines, only a barium study will show if there's indeed a blockage. Yes, the vet can tell by palpating if there's some sort of foreign material.
I've had a horrible experience w/Momo having a blockage from ingesting a queen palm tree seed (which is toxic) & he had to have surgery in the ER. We also did ultrasound, endoscopy w/no luck. It was discovered when the vet palpated his stomach & it was lodged in the entrance of the small intestines.
Hope she'll feel better & you'll find out what's wrong w/her soon.

Magnus 03-23-2010 08:43 PM
Wanted to send my prayers for Halo too.

It could possible be some sort of a bug and would pass after some time? It was something like that with Magnus. In my case, trying to force feed him food/water seem to make him vomit more so I decided to just put a ice cube in his bowl and let him do whatever he wanted. Fortunately, he was more like himself the next morning and finally started to drink/eat again.

The waiting part is the worst torture. I'm sure everyone here feels your pain. I really hope Halo gets better soon.

HShanks 03-24-2010 04:47 AM
Just checkin' in to see how Halo is doing this morning. ;)

ladyjane 03-24-2010 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 3052413)
If it is blockage, she would be throwing up non stop, won't even be able to keep water down. It will show in an x-ray if it's still in the stomach, but if it has passed down to the intestines, only a barium study will show if there's indeed a blockage. Yes, the vet can tell by palpating if there's some sort of foreign material.
I've had a horrible experience w/Momo having a blockage from ingesting a queen palm tree seed (which is toxic) & he had to have surgery in the ER. We also did ultrasound, endoscopy w/no luck. It was discovered when the vet palpated his stomach & it was lodged in the entrance of the small intestines.
Hope she'll feel better & you'll find out what's wrong w/her soon.
YIKES I have three queen palms in my back yard. I just put a new one in. I did have an issue this year with a couple of my pups chewing on those seeds, but did not find them on any lists. I know the sago palm tree seeds are highly toxic. I surely hope you have them mixed up. I am going to google again now...how scary. Thanks for this post, Jenny.

JPop & Taz 2 03-24-2010 06:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HShanks (Post 3052618)
Just checkin' in to see how Halo is doing this morning. ;)
She seems to feel better; more active, but, she is on anti-biotics. She's peeing because of all the fluid he gave her, but she still refuses to eat, therefore, no poop. Tomorrow will be a whole week! I'm a little upset because he hasn't run any test on her, even though I don't know what kind he would run. This morning he told me he would do an enema if I wanted him to.....he's the vet, shouldn't he say if he thinks she needs one. He doesn't need to make me feel better, he needs to get her better! He's in surgery right now, but, I've left message for him to call me when he's out. I just want him to know how worried I am, and that I think he needs to do something. My daughter and coworker think I should go to another vet....it's just that he's always treated my yorkies and I've never had any problems; till now. I really could use some of my yt friends advise. :(

ARCHIE 03-24-2010 06:52 AM
After almost a week of no answers I would insist he do an ultrasound or
something that will allow him to view her upper and lower intestines.
This is truly going on too long. IMO. I am glad she's playing but she
also has to eat. A lower GI series may help as well. You need answers
and if I didn't get them from my vet I would go to another.
It's frustrating to change vet's I realize but it's been almost a week of
no eating and no poop. Somethings not right.

Good luck and I truly hope you get an answer very soon.

yorkieusa 03-24-2010 07:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPop & Taz 2 (Post 3052737)
She seems to feel better; more active, but, she is on anti-biotics. She's peeing because of all the fluid he gave her, but she still refuses to eat, therefore, no poop. Tomorrow will be a whole week! I'm a little upset because he hasn't run any test on her, even though I don't know what kind he would run. This morning he told me he would do an enema if I wanted him to.....he's the vet, shouldn't he say if he thinks she needs one. He doesn't need to make me feel better, he needs to get her better! He's in surgery right now, but, I've left message for him to call me when he's out. I just want him to know how worried I am, and that I think he needs to do something. My daughter and coworker think I should go to another vet....it's just that he's always treated my yorkies and I've never had any problems; till now. I really could use some of my yt friends advise. :(
Muffin had a uti and the antibiotic made her really sick (upset her little tummy). I had to give her chicken broth by dropper until she got better or to the point she could eat food again.

mimimomo 03-24-2010 07:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3052629)
YIKES I have three queen palms in my back yard. I just put a new one in. I did have an issue this year with a couple of my pups chewing on those seeds, but did not find them on any lists. I know the sago palm tree seeds are highly toxic. I surely hope you have them mixed up. I am going to google again now...how scary. Thanks for this post, Jenny.
Ah yes Linda, my mistake, the sago palm tree seeds are toxic. The Queen palm tree seed did give Momo major ulcers in his stomach. The doc gave me the seed after taking it out & the outer layer of the seed was gone. Why he ate it, idk.

To Halo's mommy, I would go see another vet. When Momo (yes, him again) was a pup, he had respiratory infection for 4 months. I saw 3 different vets & the 3rd one upped his anti-biotic dose which cured him. That would drive me bonkers, when the vet doesn't tell me what's going on...

JPop & Taz 2 03-24-2010 08:22 AM
Thanks everyone. I'm going to check on her at noon and give the vet a call. I did talk with him about an hour ago and let him know how upset I am. He said we will do x ray or whatever to find out whats going on with her. I've decided if I'm not happy with his actions this afternoon, I will see another vet. I'll keep everyone informed.

HShanks 03-24-2010 11:46 AM
I agree with above poster. A week is too long with no real answer. Sounds like you are on the right track. Keep us posted.

JPop & Taz 2 03-24-2010 11:49 AM
Ok, she's back at the vets now. He is going to do an enema. I asked about an ultra sound or x-ray, but, we're going to she how she reacts to this. If she's not eating by tomorrow, I'm planning to see another vet. Hopefully, the enema will do the trick. Will update later.

yorkieusa 03-24-2010 04:32 PM
That poor little girl. What she's being put thru!:( I\'m hoping she\'ll be just fine. It\'s so strange how they can bounce right back sometimes.


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