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dwerten 02-16-2010 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mija1106 (Post 3005061)
I didn't think it was a seizure because my neighbors little poodle is epileptic and i've seen her having a seizure a few times and it was nothing like that. There was no vomitting or diarhea and she had pooped that morning and again last night like she usually does so no constipation. She's had blood work and all done before but I think i'll take her to the vet anyways so im 100% positive everything is ok.
there are different type of seizures though :( not all look the same - mine had a seizure from rosemary chicken and she made a loud sound went stiff and fell on her side - never shaked or anything and then was dazed afterwards and not quite right for awhile afterwards. How old is your dog? I would get bats done on her to test her liver as epilepsy does not really run that high in this breed and does not occur until they are 3 years or older. I have 3 and they are all almost six and never seen a muscle spasm before so not sure but did she jump on or off something or was she playing right before it happened to trigger the pain? Does she have luxating patella and maybe it slipped out and she was manipulating to get it back in?

I would get the bats and blood work just to be safe

mija1106 02-16-2010 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3005048)
so i am assuming you had blood work on her and her ALT was not high? Hypoglycemic and liver issues go hand in hand.
Yeah last time I had it done everything was perfect, but it's been a little while so i'll go to the vet asap and get her checked out.

dwerten 02-16-2010 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mija1106 (Post 3005076)
Yeah last time I had it done everything was perfect, but it's been a little while so i'll go to the vet asap and get her checked out.
how old is she? and how long ago was blood work?

there are other things that affect the spine as well so maybe have an xray done to check out her spine or wait and see if it happens again

if it happens again then maybe do testing if she is acting fine but keep an eye on her as it takes alot of pain for them to cry out as they are the masters of hiding pain :( so she must have been in a lot of it. The prayer position could mean digestive and they can still get constipated on their kibble - some people do dry in am and wet in pm so you may want to try that out if you think it could be that

mija1106 02-16-2010 07:42 AM
She's a year and a half and she doesn't have LP, she's been checked for that. Her last blood work was in october. She wasn't doing anything before it happened, she had just walked over to come see me. And she never complains about anything so I know something was wrong for her to scream like that. Im just so worried about her:(

dwerten 02-16-2010 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mija1106 (Post 3005088)
She's a year and a half and she doesn't have LP, she's been checked for that. Her last blood work was in october. She wasn't doing anything before it happened, she had just walked over to come see me. And she never complains about anything so I know something was wrong for her to scream like that. Im just so worried about her:(
yeah that is what mine did when she had her seizure she came over to me put her legs on my legs and then the seizure started :( I knew it was the rosemary chicken as that was the only thing different and i knew rosemary could cause dogs prone to seizures to seize but she was so healthy and i gave her that 12 hrs before and most reactions happen in the past 12 hrs - she has never done it before but it scared me to death. If you have nothing to tie it to then that concerns me due to age could be neurological so if her blood work was perfect i still would have bats done as my friends dog was perfect on blood work and bats were 500 post so you may want to have that done and have her xrayed to see if any disc issues - my concern would be neurological and spinal if not liver related so if this happens again I would get to a neurologist. I hope it does not and is one time thing like my girls or constipation

did you notice any pain in her neck area?

was she dazed afterwards like a glazed over eye look?

what percentage of protein are you feeding?

dwerten 02-16-2010 07:58 AM
Neck and Back Pain in Dogs

dwerten 02-16-2010 07:59 AM
if doing blood work take in urine sample as well to make sure no stones

mija1106 02-16-2010 08:01 AM
Omg that must have been so scary for you :( She would not let me touch her while she was yelping but afterwards I touched her gently everywhere to see where her pain was coming from and she didnt seem to be hurting anywhere and she wasn't dazed. The only kibble she will eat is the Royal Canin for Yorkshire Terriers and she eats 1/3 of a cup about every 24hrs...its says 28% protein on the bag is that it?

mija1106 02-16-2010 08:02 AM
thank you so much for your help!

mija1106 02-16-2010 08:08 AM
I called my vet and they'll take her as soon as i get there so we're off to the vet. Lets hope its all good news.

dwerten 02-16-2010 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mija1106 (Post 3005109)
Omg that must have been so scary for you :( She would not let me touch her while she was yelping but afterwards I touched her gently everywhere to see where her pain was coming from and she didnt seem to be hurting anywhere and she wasn't dazed. The only kibble she will eat is the Royal Canin for Yorkshire Terriers and she eats 1/3 of a cup about every 24hrs...its says 28% protein on the bag is that it?
that is too high of protein :( stick to 22% or below so that would be my first concern for stones and liver since prayer position knowing that protein count. They may xray for stones so that would make more sense knowing this - Good luck and keep us posted

yorkielover4lif 02-16-2010 09:48 AM
my Tiggy refused to eat the Royal Canine for Yorkies and Precious did eat it, but would get so constipated and cry and yelp every time she went poo:eek:, it always took her forever to go and she would struggle every single time so I stopped feeding it to them! They won't eat anything but Beneful Original, except when Precious was pregnant/nursing, then they would all eat Puppy Chow.

How long have you been feeding the RC to your baby? Maybe try switching her food will help:). Good luck, I'm glad she seems to be doing fine now

yorkie_mama22 02-16-2010 10:33 AM
My last girl when she would have a seizure would yelp out like in pain and then get very stiff. It only lasted a few mins. But with my girl she would also stop breathing and we would have to give her CPR.

mija1106 02-16-2010 02:04 PM
Mija is doing very well. I had blood work, bats, urine sample, and x-rays done and everything came back noraml...so its still a mystery. The vet said that maybe she was numb somewhere and had never felt like that before so she panicked and started yelping...but I don't think she would have yelped that loud if she hadn't been in any real pain. Anyways I'm just gald she's ok and healthy :) As for the food i'm going to change that asap. I had no idea a high protein percentage could cause problems :S. She's been eating it for about 8 months now and its the only kind she actually eats with an appetite...do you have any suggestions for a good kibble?? Thanks everyone for your help! :)

Zeus08 02-16-2010 02:13 PM
Glad to hear that Mija's lab work came back normal. Some of the better known foods are high in protein. I thought anything below 25g of protein was good for Yorkies. I am sure more experienced Yorkie Talkers can weigh in on a good kibble. Best wishes! :aimeeyork


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