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ladyjane 12-03-2009 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2903029)
That's just it, the adult dogs can pick it up and bring it home and it might never show up in them. And no one allows their puppies to ingest the feces of other animals, but they do it anyway. They can get it from digging in the dirt. they can survive anything.

Parasites are not exclusive to poor breeders. They are every where. And I do not agree that the poorly bred dogs outweigh the the well bred ones. It's like with bad children. No one pays any attention to the good ones.
You don't think the mills are outproducing good breeders?

chachi 12-03-2009 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2903052)
You don't think the mills are outproducing good breeders?
Between mills and bybs there are definitely more bad breeders than good I agree

Mardelin 12-03-2009 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2903050)
Oh my...that actually made me laugh. But...how sad. Probably true, though.
You know what I don't buy it. When I have new families picking up their pups. I provide them with an baby book, an encyclopedia. It contains everything about that puppy, it's background, medical records, pics, how to on everything from hyperglycemia, to coccidia, giardia, liver shunt, etc. The signs to look for and what to do, along with calling me. We sit and go through the list of instruction on everything. My families have always told me that the reason that they chose to buy a pup from me is that I cared enough to educate them and was honest with them...

ladyjane 12-03-2009 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2903056)
You know what I don't buy it. When I have new families picking up their pups. I provide them with an baby book, an encyclopedia. It contains everything about that puppy, it's background, medical records, pics, how to on everything from hyperglycemia, to coccidia, giardia, liver shunt, etc. The signs to look for and what to do, along with calling me. We sit and go through the list of instruction on everything. My families have always told me that the reason that they chose to buy a pup from me is that I cared enough to educate them and was honest with them...

Thank you! That is what I feel should be done!

Mardelin 12-03-2009 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 2903055)
Between mills and bybs there are definitely more bad breeders than good I agree
There are a heck of a lot of great breeders out there, just difficult to get a pup from them. So, I will say they/we can blame ourselves that people go to the BYBer or Mill to buy a pup.

KimMee's Mom 12-03-2009 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nsleik (Post 2902970)
***PHOEBE'S UPDATE***
The news we’ve ALL been waiting for. Late last night Phoebe showed interest in food by having a single lick of Hill’s a/d food (didn’t eat it though). This was her first sign of interest in almost a week (since last Friday, 11/27). Today (12/03) the vet called to let us know she ate small pieces of hamburger and then ate a little bit of the a/d food. Things are definitely going in the right direction! He wants to keep her one more day to begin Albon treatment and make sure the vomiting and/or diarrhea don’t return. Hopefully by this time tomorrow, our little girl will be home! Thank you to everyone for ALL of your love and support through this very stressful dilemma. Please continue to pray as we still worry that she may revert back to NOT eating when she comes home. We love you all… Thank You!

I am so very happy that your little one is getting better. I hope she gets to come home tomorrow.

KimMee's Mom 12-03-2009 09:23 PM
Well I can say this- if you take your dogs and your puppies from your litter and you have them tested several times and all the stool samples come back negative- I don't know of any vet that will pre- treat for Coccidia. I also know that plenty of dogs are sold at lower pet prices without contracts. I had a similar incident and I offered to buy the puppy back over and over and over to no avail, even willing to reimburse the vet fees.

ladyjane 12-03-2009 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2903078)
There are a heck of a lot of great breeders out there, just difficult to get a pup from them. So, I will say they/we can blame ourselves that people go to the BYBer or Mill to buy a pup.

Yep......the real problem is the shortage of responsible pet owners imo. If a person is a responsible pet owner, they should not have a problem buying from a good breeder.

I get the idle threats all of the time. "Since you will not adopt to us, we will go buy one". So...guess we also are to blame.

KimMee's Mom 12-03-2009 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2903020)
No one is blaming the buyer. And moving to a new home "is" severe stress to some puppies.

I suppose they could tell the buyer, but what good would it do if the puppy is not sick. It does no good to treat them if they are not sick? Many vets routinely test stool samples but if it is not active it won't show up in the stool either.

This is one of those things that just happen, that no one is to blame. If the new owner gets the puppy to the vet to get it treated it will be fine.

When you adopt a living thing, you should know that there is a chance that they will get sick, and they might even require expensive operations or even die. Those things are not anyones fault. It's just part of life.
I agree-

KYBLUE 12-04-2009 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2903012)
No, they are not indicative of bad breeding; but, let's face it, most bad breeders do have coccidia and other problems running rampant in their kennels.

And, let's also face the fact that the number of poorly bred dogs far outweigh well bred ones.

As for picking coccidia up at a dog park, honestly I don't see that happening since most healthy dogs do not get it. It is the puppies and immuno-suppressed that are most at risk. And, who is going to allow their pups to ingest the feces of other animals? The only way that will happen is if they let them run unattended.
that is such a untrue statement my adult male came down with it after a dog show go to one and see what you might bring home on your shoe's your dogs feet etc it can be picked up off the ground as can parvo etc
parvo can be brought in on your shoes walking your dog as he or she sniffs for a place to potty most healthy dogs hmm but cannot healthy dogs not be a carreer i would think they all can
as for a puppy unless you are a breeder and have had experence at raising a litter than you have no clue at all a puppy can snatch something up faster that you can say ditto that does not mean they are left unattened at all
cocci can live in the ground for many year's and you never know it until you come down with it i have seen litters of 5 and only one pup with it cocci is a breeders night mare as we all good bad or ugly have to deal with it

KYBLUE 12-04-2009 05:10 AM
you know i have found that it is very easy for others to be judge and jury
hiding behind a computer while sitting at home
to the op
may gods speed be with your new puppy

JeanieK 12-04-2009 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2903050)
Oh my...that actually made me laugh. But...how sad. Probably true, though.
People wonder why the price is so much higher from some breeders than from others. About 25% of the calls I get on puppies ask one question onlyh. HOW MUCH? You tell them and they hang up.

Now I am not saying that all expensive puppies are healthy and all cheap puppies are sick. In fact pet stores are one of the most expensive places to buy puppies.

But when people are buying on price alone, well you get what you pay for.

Then they take these puppies home and let kids drag them all day and the puppy gets run down. And they come on here with their stories and every one starts in on the breeder.

Not all of this stuff can be blamed on the breeder. These are infants, they need food and sleep

JeanieK 12-04-2009 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2903056)
You know what I don't buy it. When I have new families picking up their pups. I provide them with an baby book, an encyclopedia. It contains everything about that puppy, it's background, medical records, pics, how to on everything from hyperglycemia, to coccidia, giardia, liver shunt, etc. The signs to look for and what to do, along with calling me. We sit and go through the list of instruction on everything. My families have always told me that the reason that they chose to buy a pup from me is that I cared enough to educate them and was honest with them...
Yes I have gotten that too. I also send with them a blanket that all of the dogs have been sleeping on and my buyers have told me that the puppies do not cry all night. They think the blanket makes a big difference.

JeanieK 12-04-2009 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2903091)
Yep......the real problem is the shortage of responsible pet owners imo. If a person is a responsible pet owner, they should not have a problem buying from a good breeder.

I get the idle threats all of the time. "Since you will not adopt to us, we will go buy one". So...guess we also are to blame.
Absolutely, so the number of bad pet owners is right up there with bad breeders.

We've seen stories on here where the puppy was taken back to the breeder, the breeder go it stablized gives it back to the owner and it goes downhill again.

They think it is a toy, the let kids drag it around, they drag it to the pet store they exhaust it and wonder why it is not eating.

When I got my first yorkie she explained everything to me abut making sure it did not get overtired or it would forget to eat. Stressing the importance of the puppy getting enough sleep to stay well.

JeanieK 12-04-2009 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KYBLUE (Post 2903284)
that is such a untrue statement my adult male came down with it after a dog show go to one and see what you might bring home on your shoe's your dogs feet etc it can be picked up off the ground as can parvo etc
parvo can be brought in on your shoes walking your dog as he or she sniffs for a place to potty most healthy dogs hmm but cannot healthy dogs not be a carreer i would think they all can
as for a puppy unless you are a breeder and have had experence at raising a litter than you have no clue at all a puppy can snatch something up faster that you can say ditto that does not mean they are left unattened at all
cocci can live in the ground for many year's and you never know it until you come down with it i have seen litters of 5 and only one pup with it cocci is a breeders night mare as we all good bad or ugly have to deal with it
Very good points. I was going to mention about bringing it home on your shoes too.

What it boils down too is that parasites are out there and there is nothing that can be done about that.

Treating your new puppy like an infant and getting it medical care at the first sign of trouble are keys to keeping it healthy.

Many new owners wait too long to get the puppy to the vet because they don't want the expense.


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