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I am so sorry to hear about this. Did you get a chance to take your baby to the vet yet? I am hoping everything works out for you. If we can look for a positive here, lets be thankful she is still with you, and I am sure we all have learned a powerful lesson here. Please let us know how she is. |
I'm so sorry about your puppy. This happened to my Harley when he was a puppy. before I got him. Its a long story but I just posted his story thread so I hope everyone will go read it. A child that age must be surpervised. No matter what. I pray your puppy recovers without much trauma and I hope this youngster's parents help with the costs. |
Hey there. I am so sorry to hear about your baby also!! I had this almost exact thing happen a while ago. A friends child was visiting and picked my 4 lb baby up and literally threw him onto his head on the tile floor. We all reacted the same as you, and I no longer allow him to be alone with my dog, and barely allow him at my house for many reasons. He is around 6 and has severe behavioral problems coming to light now. Even if you care for this child this could be some major problems developing within him so PLEASE dont worry about hurting feelings or being brash just do what it takes to keep your baby safe!! I am so sorry and I sure hope your angel is ok! |
Do you have an emergency vet you can take the pup to? We have one that is open anytime the regular vet is closed, it costs alot but worth it. I'm glad the dog survived the event, and I hope the dog will be ok and not afraid of kids for the rest of it's life now. I would inform the child and the parents that I would no longer watch the child and this is why. Children have been known to kill small pets by treating them like stuffed animals. I'd be a wreck worried about my dog after that and do anything to keep it from happening again. |
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I am not saying he shouldn't be punished and maybe even counseled by a professional, but hit? Are you kidding me:eek: |
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Sorry, but an ass whipping doesn't do anyone any good. I've lived with violence my whole life and I would never hit my child or my pet that I love so dearly. And I certainly wouldn't lay a hand on someone elses child. All that's learned by it is someone who cares for you..hurts you. A child that young needs supervision...all the time, especially with animals. I pray this puppy will be ok. Quote:
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I hope your baby is going to be ok. I hold my breath everytime I read something like this. I'd like to ask you a few questions - if you don't mind. How old is your son? How long have you been watching this other little boy? Did you ever sit him down and explain the rules regarding your puppy to him and his parents? What is your guard rail on your balcony like? Has this boy ever been around other animals? Does he have any at home? Is he mean to your son or any other children/pets? I really feel bad for you. Please don't blame yourself - this time. Accidents DO happen. I know that this little boy didn't come to your house that day and say... hmmm, I think I'll throw that puppy off the deck. And I'm sure you didn't say... hmmm, I'm just going to assume that these kids won't hurt this little baby that I love so much and let them play on the deck that has a 5 ft drop. We have niece who was 6 yrs old when we brought Mia home. Prior to that we had a med sized, beautiful, Blk Lab for 15 years. My niece was around Lucky all her life. Lucky always put up with a lot! Between kids, birds, cats and other dogs - Lucky was the easiest going dog I've ever seen. When we got Mia it was a culture shock - to say the least. We had done some reading about the breed so we weren't totally ignorant but still - there's always a lot to learn. Anyway, when my niece came over to meet Mia she was so excited that she ran over to pick her up. :eek: From that minute on we started to "teach" her about this puppy. She couldn't hold Mia like other puppies - Mia was 1 pd 10 oz. She had to sit down and then, only then when someone was there and watching, could she hold Mia. She couldn't bounce her around, walk with her, or even play too long. There were many rules and I could see my niece becoming uninterested after that. But I explained how tiny and frail Mia was and that yes, she could be killed from many things - especially being dropped on my tile floor! She acted like she understood that I don't think she did. After the first "year" and me showing/telling her different things she finally "understood". Not having any pets at home - the only lessons she got was when she was here. Now, she even walks her neighbors dog. They don't always realize that these are living, breathing animals - especially Yorkies... people tend to look at them like their stuffed animals. My point is... it's the adult's responsibility to teach our children how to handle animals. It's the adult's responsibility to watch over these animals. It's the adult's responsibilty... The other thing is - different breeds are different sizes at the same age. Holding my Lab at 12 wks was totally different than holding my Yorkie at 12 wks. I really hope your baby was just stunned and bruised and that she will be ok. I hope you talk with the boy and his parents regarding handling animals... especially yours. If you really think this is a "mean" child then I wouldn't want him around my son or dog. But if you believe that he didn't really realize what the extent was of his actions were going to be... I'd say "teach him". :) As to those who suggested they open up a can of whip a$$ - baby, you better bring your lunch and dinner!!! And then a plane ticket out of here! :mad: There's hope for a "mean" child but I'm not so sure about "mean" adults! As for the cost of the Vet bill... I'm sorry - I think that's your responsiblilty. Best of Luck and please let us know how your baby is. |
So sorry to hear about your yorkie. I hope he will be okay. And as another poster said, what a 5 yr old will do IS debatable....PERIOD. No one can predict or try to understand what a 5 yr old will do. All children are different. We WOULD all like to think they would understand that throwing anything living off a deck is not good. I am sure you are aware now that it is not wise to leave a 5 yr old unattended with any type of an animal small or large....... Sending hugs for your furbaby.... |
I am so sorry to hear this, poor little baby. I would not trust that child again period! He was old enough to know better. IMO, I would tell the parents what he did and explain that he is no longer welcome. But that is just what I would do, you have to do what you think is best for you and your family. Please keep us posted as to how she is doing, my heart is just breaking for the poor little thing. :( |
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a 5 year old should definitely know how to behave by himself without being supervised. He knew better and his family should pay for the vet bill, or at least some of it. |
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I don't know I mean, I just don't get how people can post and say he knew fully what he was doing and the parents should pay fully. They were paying for their child to be supervised does anyone remember that part? unreal:eek: |
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You're expecting a 5 yr old to "know better" but not the adult? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: |
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Children do/know what they are taught.If any child misbehaves,no matter what the age is,there needs to be punishment. If a child acts out..verbally/physically,emotionally, it's the adult in charge at the time...whether it be parent,babysitter,teacher,to teach them wrong form right. I agree,NONE has the right to touch anyone elses child. There are many ways to teach without touch. Consequences to bad behavior. My son is 17 and that rule still applies. Dogs and children are both are unpredictible. Everyone involved know their faults in this. Learn from it and move on. Babysitting means watching 24/7. You need eyes in the back of your head.The parents should be involved in how this situation went down ,and together come up with a plan/punishment. Good Lock to that pup,Let us know how the vet visit goes. |
Well then New York State law su*ks and should be changed, cause thats ridiculous. What I wouldn't do with my own kids I wouldn't do with someone's else. It's common sense, it doesn't take a Nasa scientist to understand that any child under 10 and especially 5 can get into serious trouble if left alone and also kidnapped by some loontune!:rolleyes: |
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oh I agree with you 100 percent. I was just stating a fact. I have a 5 year old child and I know what kind of trouble he can into. ;) As far as them knowing right from wrong, if they arent taught then they dont know. PERIOD.. its not about whether or not they should already no because they are 5, is there a rule book somewhere that states once your child turns 5, he should automatically know this and that. Give me a break. :rolleyes: I agree he shouldnt of done it and I really do feel sorry for the puppy, but he and the dog were unsupervised and things happen. If she was out there with the dog and kid it wouldnt of happen. If you dont want to watch him anymore than dont, its only 1 day a week. If you do continue to watch him than I would keep him and the dog away from each other untill he can be taught how to be around the dog. Good luck, I hope that your puppy didnt suffer any serious damage.:( |
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no biggie.. :thumbup: I cant believe what this thread has turned into. Its very distrubing to know that there are people out there that think hitting a child or someone elses child is ok :thumbdown better yet, lets just throw the kid off the deck :eek:, I mean seriously??? Yet these are the same people that are absoulty horrified by people hitting their dogs and says things like "leave your fiance or husband" because he is tapping the dog on the butt. I really dont get it?? :confused: Hitting anything living thing is WRONG whether it be human or animal!!:mad: To the OP, I really hope that your puppy is ok. Im sooo done with this thread :thumbdown |
Despite what everyone is posting about the five year old and what should or shouldn't be done to him - I can't get past that this 6 month old puppy wasn't taken to the vet immediately after the accident. I know if there was a chance my puppy/dog had a broken leg, I wouldn't be waiting until tomorrow to have it checked.:confused: |
I also watch children from my home, besides my own two. The oldest which is my son is 7 and the youngest is 3. I tell the children when I first start watching them the rules. Which includes no hitting, kicking, or picking up the dogs. The dogs may sit in their lap if they are on the floor, but they are not to pick them up. All my children are great with the dogs and I think if one of the children diid hurt one of my dogs I would talk to their parents and let them know what happend. I would ask them to pay all or half of the vet bill and if they wouldn't then I probably wouldn't watch their child anymore. He is old anough to know better. I am sorry this happend to your baby and I hope she will be okay. |
I work with kids of all ages, learning disabled and not. The main thing is, they DON'T know better, unless they have been TAUGHT to know better. If the parents lack discipline, than the child struggles with what is right/wrong. This is very tragic, and I am so sad for you to have to go through this. I absolutely agree 100% with the person who said to sit the kids down and explain to them the rules with animals. If the child is not experienced with animals, then they're probably not experienced with how to treat them. I am very careful with Lola when I am around children. I am very strict with the kids, because I know the damage they can do (by accident), on such a little creature. I don't think this incident is anyone's fault. However, it's possibly more of a fault towards the parents of the child, for not explaining how to treat animals. I think you should DEFINITELY call the kids parents, and explain what happened. They might even offer to pay the bills?? I would, if it were my child, but you never know with parents these days. I definitely wouldn't allow the child near the dog again, even if you decide to babysit him again. I probably couldn't babysit him again though, cuz of resentment, but that's not a good thing to have. I do wish the best for you and you're little one!! Please keep us updated with what happens. You and your little one are in my thoughts/prayers. Unfortunately, with every accident, there is a lesson to be learned. Not just for you, but for the child as well. I am so sorry, and I hope he gets better soon!!! |
HOW IS THE PUPPY?????? Please keep us updated. |
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I am stunned that anyone would consider a. blaming one child based on the report of another, b. consider asking someone else to reimburse you when YOU were the "responsible" adult on the scene c. not take the puppy to the vet immediately. I always thought breeders who wouldn't place a puppy in a home with young children were really unreasonable, but after reading this thread and seeing the number of people who are willing to place the full blame on this child, I think I'm beginning to understand. |
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I have seen many kids with very good mannerism and upbringing do things to my dogs that I don't expect them too. One minute they are gently petting my yorkies, the next minute they are kicking or hitting. I don't think they are even aware of what they are doing. I have seen time and time again their parents scolding them for what they have done and tell them why they shouldn't but yet the kids do it over and over again. This is not my experience with one child, rather my experience with multiple children with different personalities. I learned not to leave my yorkies unattended with any young children period. Kids under 8 don't have the same mental capacity so you really can't blame them. The only thing you can do is not put your puppy in the hand of a child. You see they act aggressively at times not because they are violent kids but rather they see the pet as a toy. And what does a kid do with his toys? They play and toss them around. I have been told by parents that their kids have been taught how to handle a dog and yet I see them being aggressive with my dogs. Bottom line don't leave small animals unattended with young kids (especially when they are 6 and younger) unless you know 100% that they will not be harmed Why take that chance? |
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