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Hannah3183 07-29-2008 06:08 PM

vomiting again
 
Well....she vomitted 4 big times again tonight.
I thought everything was back to normal....
we're going to the vet in the morning and im going to have them do the bile acid test. I'm worried sick!

smartpuppiepets 07-29-2008 06:28 PM

i have not followed previous post so it is hard to say anything other than :"good luck" . And take the food away , just water if she continues to vomit take the water away as well.

Wylie's Mom 07-29-2008 06:30 PM

Is she STILL on the Metro? Because I'm wondering if it's beginning to be too much for her - I'd ask the vet to consider that as well bc Metro can be very hard on some pets. Please keep us posted and best of luck at the vet.

Hannah3183 07-29-2008 06:51 PM

she finished the last of that this morning.

The vomit count is up to 12 for tonight. It seems to be just foamy white bile now.....all the food is out of her system.

I'm praying that this isn't some sort of shunt. I hoping that it's as simple as a new allergy to her food, since she was fine there for a few days. I'll let you know what the vet tells me tomorrow. I just hope we can make it ok through the night.

smartpuppiepets 07-29-2008 07:11 PM

If the metro mentioned is metronidazole it would not cause vomit.... it would actually help stop any related to infestation of worms, or coccidia....

mscat 07-29-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannah3183 (Post 2146779)
Well....she vomitted 4 big times again tonight.
I thought everything was back to normal....
we're going to the vet in the morning and im going to have them do the bile acid test. I'm worried sick!

I am so sorry your baby is sick:eek: I hope things go well for you tommorow at the vet. Praying for Hannah. :hug:

Ladymom 07-29-2008 07:34 PM

I am so sorry your puppy is sick. I hope your vet can figure out why she keeps vomiting. Please keep us updated.

Yorkieluv 07-29-2008 08:31 PM

Poor baby :( I hope you find out what's causing her problems...

Hannah3183 07-30-2008 08:44 AM

The vet visit went ok today. Since she is acting normal in every other way, the vet is wondering if all of a sudden her food isn't agreeing with her. So, she's on Hill's ID prescription food. If she still vomits tonight, the vet said she's going to start doing extensive tests to figure out what's wrong and to bring her in tomorrow morning for xrays, more bloodwork etc. The vet said that her bloodwork from the other day came back excellent and that she would have noticed if someone was going on with her liver. So - she ruled out doing the bile acid test until other symptoms showed up which led to that.

I gave Mayme some boiled chicken this morning and it all stayed down..

Crossing my fingers that it's as simple as a diet change!

zoeybear 07-30-2008 08:48 AM

Poor baby. Glad she is doing better for the time being.

Wylie's Mom 07-30-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets (Post 2146895)
If the metro mentioned is metronidazole it would not cause vomit.... it would actually help stop any related to infestation of worms, or coccidia....

That's not true. You may want to read more about Metro, which can VERY tough on some pets:

Metronidazole For Veterinary Use

Tiger's Mom 07-30-2008 10:06 AM

oh poor baby . .I hope the vet can find out what is wrong with her . . .:( . .you are in my thoughts.

Ellie May 07-30-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannah3183 (Post 2147763)
The vet visit went ok today. Since she is acting normal in every other way, the vet is wondering if all of a sudden her food isn't agreeing with her. So, she's on Hill's ID prescription food. If she still vomits tonight, the vet said she's going to start doing extensive tests to figure out what's wrong and to bring her in tomorrow morning for xrays, more bloodwork etc. The vet said that her bloodwork from the other day came back excellent and that she would have noticed if someone was going on with her liver. So - she ruled out doing the bile acid test until other symptoms showed up which led to that.

I gave Mayme some boiled chicken this morning and it all stayed down..

Crossing my fingers that it's as simple as a diet change!

While this really doesn't sound like a liver issue (although it could be), there is no possible way to rule out a liver function problem with just a blood panel. It is a good place to start but the enzymes don't have to be up for there to be a problem.

This whole thing seems very odd.
If she had diarrhea also or was going normal I would think pancreatitis but having trouble pooping just doesn't seem consistent with that.

With an obstruction it would be hard to poop at all but I think I would want this ruled out anyway.

Hannah3183 07-30-2008 01:14 PM

I know.. I honestly think the vet is a little confused on this one too.
I'm going to take away her treats and just feed her this diet and see if the vomiting stops. I guess its the first step before they start looking for a bigger problem.

They don't think there is an intestinal blockage, b/c she did finally start pooping again with no problems at all.
I normally feed her Wellness Puppy - I didn't imagine having an problems with it since it's supposively a really good food. MAYBE...my baby did just develop this sensitive tummy. ?? I'm anxious to see how she does tonight.

Wylie's Mom 07-30-2008 02:27 PM

Is there any toy where she is getting at the stuffing? Anything weird like that? How long after she eats does the vomiting start? Have you cut out all treats?

Hannah3183 07-30-2008 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2148603)
Is there any toy where she is getting at the stuffing? Anything weird like that? How long after she eats does the vomiting start? Have you cut out all treats?

I'm cutting out all treats as of today. I had noticed yesterday that there was some stuffing particles under my bed. So, that made me wonder...but i know that only appeared yesterday. She does chew on rawhides all the time, under my supervision though. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe she broke off a piece without my knowledge. Believe me - those are all going in the trash!

Wylie's Mom 07-30-2008 02:47 PM

Until you can get her in to see a new vet, I wouldn't be afraid to give her a little Pepto before or after she eats - like a 1/2 tsp or so....

Hannah3183 07-31-2008 03:14 AM

last night she did better. About 2.5 hours after she ate, she heaved once like she was going to vomit and was then fine for the rest of the night. She had a bowel movement this morning as well, and is gobbling up her food as we speak. I'm concerned about heaving and wondering if her medicine is the only thing keeping her from vomiting right now. I'm anxious to see how day 2 on the new diet goes, but I'm still calling the vet about her heaving last night.

Hannah3183 08-01-2008 08:06 AM

Well - last night went fine on the new food. However, this morning when she woke up she started dry heaving again. It only happened that one time this morning, and she was running around and playing all this morning before I left for work. I called the vet this morning and told them that she has dry heaved twice since I was in there on Wednesday. They said as long as she wasn't acting sick to just continue to monitor her.

I'm going to my parents house in KY this weekend. So, I had Mayme's vet her fax over all of her records to them in case of an emergeny. However, I'm thinking of taking her on in tomorrow in KY for a second opinion.

What do you all think? Should I just monitor, or have someone else look at her? It's sooooo strange to me that she doesn't act sick at all.

Wylie's Mom 08-01-2008 09:50 AM

Is she off the Metro?

Hannah3183 08-01-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2152481)
Is she off the Metro?

Yes. She's just on the anti-nausea/vomiting syrup now.

Hannah3183 08-03-2008 08:40 AM

Well, Mayme is going in for a second opinion and a bile acid test tomorrow. My mom and I had gone out to lunch yesterday and when we came back, I found mayme in her crate shaking. When I went to pick her up, her back legs and belly were soaking wet. She hadn't spilled any of her water, and she didn't smell like she had peed on herself. I'm so afraid that she had a seizure while I was gone. The vet said there was nothing he could do for her this weekend since the labs were closed, but that he definately wants to do a bile acid. I should know the results on Tuesday. I called her breeder, who said that no one has ever had a yorkie of hers turn up with liver shunt. She said maybe she passed a kidney stone. Mayme has been peeing quite a lot lately, but in small amounts. Then when I took her out of her crate yesterday when she was soaking wet....she peed a ton! (That's why I don't think that she peed on herself.)

Please please please cross your fingers for us.

Ellie May 08-03-2008 12:44 PM

If she is peeing often in small amounts it could be a UTI. She could also have stones. Ammonium urate stones are common with liver problems and they are not visable on xray, only ultrasound. I hope she is okay.:(

Hannah3183 08-04-2008 06:53 AM

She's at the vet right now. The new vet looked at her past bloodwork, etc and said she seems like an extremely healthy lil pup. He's also going to do a urine analysis, and told me not to worry....he'd figure it all out.

In the meantime, i'm just trying to breathe!

Hannah3183 08-04-2008 01:02 PM

We need your prayers big time now. The vet found something in her urine which indicated to him that she has a liver shunt. I get the bile acid test results back tomorrow, but he said he's pretty sure on his diagnosis at the moment. I really didn't think this could be possible. I can't lose my little baby.

Ellie May 08-04-2008 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannah3183 (Post 2158844)
We need your prayers big time now. The vet found something in her urine which indicated to him that she has a liver shunt. I get the bile acid test results back tomorrow, but he said he's pretty sure on his diagnosis at the moment. I really didn't think this could be possible. I can't lose my little baby.

I'm so sorry.:(

Liver shunt is not a death sentence.
Surgery is possible in quite a few cases, especially since Yorkies often get extrahepatic shunts. It could also be MVD (controlled by supplements and diets). Please post the bile acid results when you get them.

Yorkieluv 08-04-2008 07:55 PM

Did they find ammonium urate stones? Those are pretty much indicative of liver shunt unless your dog is a dalmation, which obviously she is not... I am so sorry to hear about your baby :( Please post the results of the BAT when you get them. Prayers for your baby...

Hannah3183 08-05-2008 11:29 AM

The vet got her bile acid test results back today and called a specialist to get their opinion. The specialist said that yes, her liver enzymes were high and that something is definately going on, but they aren't high enough yet to be classified as liver shunt.(Thank God!) He said that she could have ate something that flared up her pancreas and caused pancreatitis...which raised her liver enzymes.

The vet had given her anti-vomitting medicine last week, which she is supposed to stay on until I can slowly reduce it down to nothing over the course of this week. If she vomits, then she has to go back in for more testing. Regardless, she goes back for a repeat bile acid test in a month to see if her liver enzymes have returned to normal. The specialist said that she could be just now developing the shunt, but that I've caught it so early it should be treatable with medicine and a new diet.

So for right now, i'm still just watching and waiting.Cross your fingers that I just have a sneaky muncher on my hands!

Also - the vet found bromide in her urinalysis which caused him to think she had the shunt. ?? My mom told me that part, which she could be not getting the name right, etc. Anyone heard anything about that?

Hannah3183 08-05-2008 12:09 PM

Mayme is now on her way back to my vet here in Nashville. The BAT was run by a vet in my parents home town this weekend. The vet here is concerned with her urinalysis results and wants to re-do her pancreas bloodwork. (It wasn't the ammonium birate) If she vomits this week, she'll go back in for a liver biopsy and ultrasound.

Wylie's Mom 08-05-2008 12:12 PM

Thanks for the update. This isn't my area of expertise - but I see all the right folks are in on this thread and giving you advice. I just wanted you to know that I've been thinking of you and checking in each day. :)


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