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bchgirl 05-21-2008 08:13 AM
Added anything new in your treats?

diggy4 05-21-2008 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2002080)
No, not re-exposed...the hives have just re-occurred. Hives do that. It takes some people longer than others. The medical community doesn't completely understand hives. It is one of few conditions that can manifest and recitfy itself..within hours and then re-appear.

Since both of them are affected...think carefully what both of them did that day..anything they may have possibly eaten, any flea treatments, heartworm meds?

And honestly you may never know...but it is strange both of them have them.

Ok to my best ability here is EVERYTHING we did that day

I didnt change laundry soap or clearners or anything of the obvious nature

No heartworm flea meds or and meds for that matter

I DID go to a new joann fabric and get fleece. they played and rubbed ALL over it and broke out 4 hours later ...well my male Diggy did not Bella she broke out about 20 hours after exposure to it. She has full coat his is short so easier to get to his skin ?

I have brought TONS of fleece thru the house and they always romp and play on it and I only purchase from Joann's but this was a different store??

I since have washed every piece of fleece is hot water 2 times each with my usual tide laundry soap.

Our Oak tree also is dropping the catkins it drops every year which is a strand of dead flowers they cover my yard and the run thru those but i pick them off when i see them right away. Seemed strange they would have same exact reaction in 24 hours to a seasonal allergy? he is 1 year 2 month she is 2 years 11 months

thanks so much for your imput i SO appreciate it!!!!

diggy4 05-21-2008 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2002081)
Added anything new in your treats?


nope not at all....Im very picky and anal about these guys...i HATE THIS

rebecca127 05-21-2008 08:30 AM
As i asked earlier:

have u done and environmental allergy test??? They maybe allergic to something in the environment. My friends American Mastiff got like this out of the blue and since she is vet tech she got a food and environmental test done. She is practically allergic to everything. And now she gets a daily allergy shot every night before bed... Thats how bad the allergies are... I suggest you get it done...

diggy4 05-21-2008 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rebecca127 (Post 2002117)
As i asked earlier:

have u done and environmental allergy test??? They maybe allergic to something in the environment. My friends American Mastiff got like this out of the blue and since she is vet tech she got a food and environmental test done. She is practically allergic to everything. And now she gets a daily allergy shot every night before bed... Thats how bad the allergies are... I suggest you get it done...
well i questioned that route also but all 3 vets i have seen said not likey a environmental thing being i have 2 yorkies reacting the same exact way within 24 hours. They said seasonal allergies in 2 different dogs would react differently....and likey at different times. I use no yard chemicals and have no new plants they are around. They also said environmental allergies act a lil differently as both my dogs have hives in their pits of knees and arms...which she said is classic contact allergy reaction. So yes, i am pursuing all avenues but 3 different vets are steering me away from seasonal. If i dont get this under control soon i will definately pursuit environmental.

bchgirl 05-21-2008 08:38 AM
If the only common denominator is the fleece...could've been treated with something, a different type dye used, different fabric blend.

I keep trying to think of something that would cause the exact same reaction in two different animals. Have any vines in the yard? Poison ivy...poison oak? Even if you think you do not...it's a possiblity if they were outside somewhere together. I don't see it in my yard either, but sometimes doing yardwork...my husband manages to find the one vine.

I don't think both would have the identical reaction to the oak tree string things. We have those....I hate them.

We used to advise benadryl and oatmeal baths as a treatment when it was impossible to determine the cause. The oatmeal bath is exactly what it sounds like....warm water with uncooked oatmeal in it. I don't know how effective it would be for a yorkie...and can't imagine the "fun" it would be to comb out her hair.

I really think hers are just taking longer to go away completely.

browniesmom622 05-21-2008 08:42 AM
Is she eating anything Beef ?? Brownie get's hive's from beef They were even up his neck.
Right now my boy's are suffering from the pollen & grass so there coughing & itching.

diggy4 05-21-2008 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2002140)
If the only common denominator is the fleece...could've been treated with something, a different type dye used, different fabric blend.

I keep trying to think of something that would cause the exact same reaction in two different animals. Have any vines in the yard? Poison ivy...poison oak? Even if you think you do not...it's a possiblity if they were outside somewhere together. I don't see it in my yard either, but sometimes doing yardwork...my husband manages to find the one vine.

I don't think both would have the identical reaction to the oak tree string things. We have those....I hate them.

We used to advise benadryl and oatmeal baths as a treatment when it was impossible to determine the cause. The oatmeal bath is exactly what it sounds like....warm water with uncooked oatmeal in it. I don't know how effective it would be for a yorkie...and can't imagine the "fun" it would be to comb out her hair.

I really think hers are just taking longer to go away completely.
I hope it is just taking longer and im not rexposing her to it ....there is just nothing new besides those 2 things! Im picky about cleaners I never switch...and i realize they can develop new allergies at any time but what are the odds of 2 developing a new allergy the same day??? Just does not make sense to me. Poison Ivy is a possibility...i dont see any but i know it can be tricky. Yeah maybe with smmer coming they treated the fleece with a bug spray ??? I know bugs love to burrow in fabric....Im hoping these pills i pick up today clear things up and i never see hives on her again!!!!!

diggy4 05-21-2008 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by browniesmom622 (Post 2002150)
Is she eating anything Beef ?? Brownie get's hive's from beef They were even up his neck.
Right now my boy's are suffering from the pollen & grass so there coughing & itching.

yes they eat beef and chicken...but not friday or saturday...and i could see it being a food allergy if 1 was reacting but 2??? and within 12 hours ??? Thats whats throwing me a bit here they came on so strong and so abruptly in both...just odd. thanks for all trying to help it means a lot. and helps :)

bchgirl 05-21-2008 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by diggy4 (Post 2002174)
I hope it is just taking longer and im not rexposing her to it ....there is just nothing new besides those 2 things! Im picky about cleaners I never switch...and i realize they can develop new allergies at any time but what are the odds of 2 developing a new allergy the same day??? Just does not make sense to me. Poison Ivy is a possibility...i dont see any but i know it can be tricky. Yeah maybe with smmer coming they treated the fleece with a bug spray ??? I know bugs love to burrow in fabric....Im hoping these pills i pick up today clear things up and i never see hives on her again!!!!!
I'd guess pretty close to impossible.

I'd say...no one gets to play on new fleece again...ever. ;)

diggy4 05-21-2008 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2002200)
I'd guess pretty close to impossible.

I'd say...no one gets to play on new fleece again...ever. ;)
Oh yeah i had a fleece washing fest at my house. Every piece gets washed 2 times on HOT HOT HOT cycle with Tide and now I still worry about letting them touch it. Do you think 2 hot wash cycles will get off what needs to be gotten off?

zoeybear 05-21-2008 09:12 AM
I saw the pic of hives on the other thread. Baby Chloe had 2 on her chest/belly. They looked just like the pic. She got them after laying on cement. She went swimming and then layed in the sun to dry. The cement was wet. The hives went away after a few days. It seems like she had a reaction to the concrete. The cement was also very hot, so I put a towel down for her, but she prefered the cement.Hope this might help your babies!

diggy4 05-21-2008 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by zoeybear (Post 2002237)
I saw the pic of hives on the other thread. Baby Chloe had 2 on her chest/belly. They looked just like the pic. She got them after laying on cement. She went swimming and then layed in the sun to dry. The cement was wet. The hives went away after a few days. It seems like she had a reaction to the concrete. The cement was also very hot, so I put a towel down for her, but she prefered the cement.Hope this might help your babies!
awww sweet of you to help!!!! Im afridd Miss Priss Bella would not lay on cement....:p when we are outside she lays on the patio table (yes where we EAT and cookout) she is such a brat lol but good thing to know that cement has caused this also!! Thanks!!!!!

diggy4 05-22-2008 04:50 AM
Update
 
Okay and Update on Bella. She started her pill form prednisone yesterday, she did well on it. Her hives were back in full force yesterday and last night but didnt seem to itch as much just very noticable and blotchy everywhere. So she got her pill at 8 and benadryl at 10 so she got a good nights sleep and all is well. I hope these hives go away soon and we do not have to deal with them again! I will keep updating this so encase any one else's baby gets hives you can maybe refer to this and other stories and get some help!!

chattiesmom 05-22-2008 06:01 AM
Oh Paula -- I am so sorry that precious Bella is still having problems. I don't have any experience with the evill hives, but I do have experience with Prednisone. My first Yorkie, LacieBug was on a low dose of Prednisone for over five years to control brain swelling -- she had a very rare brain disease that caused swelling in the lining of the brain.

I know how worried you are about Bella and how much you hate giving drugs. I just wanted to let you know that the drug worked well for us with few side affects (or is that effects?).


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